Rollbar / seats / harness stuff, yet again...

wstar · 02-15-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan0

So what you are saying is that in the case of (probably) 99% of all track incidents, you would be better off with a harness and HANS than you would be with stock belts... but in order to prepare for the 1% (and even smaller fraction of that where severe neck injury occurs) you would rather use a seat belt solution that allows your body to flop around in the car bouncing off anything hard, so that your head is free to not be crushed by the roof in case (again an even smaller fraction) it completely pancakes.

I think your statistical argument makes perfect sense (well, other than it's probably not quite 99%-vs-1%) if we were talking about some efficiency thing, or odds of losing a chunk of money, or something of that nature. But you're also talking about increased safety in a scenario that's normally going to be non-lethal in the first place, versus decreasing the safety of a rollover to, IMHO, more likely to be lethal. It's hard to play odds against increased lethality because you don't recover from that

ryan0 · 02-15-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

I think your statistical argument makes perfect sense

that was my whole point... i just don't think that the 'possible' safety advantages of good belts for track day guys should be completely ruled out, just because you have no cage... everyone should listen to us idiots on the internet with a grain of salt and make their own decisions.

PS. I roll in a full SCCA/NASA stamped 1.75 x.12 DOM 6-pt cage with 3 bar NASCAR door bars, FIA seat, Teamtech Ram-pac 6-pts and HANS.

PPS. Will I do some laps a big willow in the Z roadster just to see how it does and embarrass clint?... most likely.

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