Summit Point Shenandoah with Track Club USA

cossie1600 · 09-01-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

You know the wrx and Sti lay down essentially identical power numbers, right? They dyno within 4-5 hp of each other, with the WRX having a fatter torque curve. The spec sheet numbers are separated to help people justify the cost of the trans/etc that you get with the Sti.

the 2011 wrx i assume? if they make the same power, sure the difference would be a lot smaller obviously. still, the sti's suuspension and awd are way superior, you can easily see the difference when you observe how much the wrx plows.

i am sure the wrx is improved in everyway and they have narrowed the gap to the sti and it would be easy to say you can mod a wrx to be faster than a sti. it might be true at the drag strip. as a track and autoz nut, i can tell you almost none of the modified wrx drive as fast as a sti. you can sink 5000 into it and it would still have a tough time running away from the sti. the new one is probably not as bad, but its always funny to see guys who spent tons of money on their wrx and then get beat by a sti

methical, no track in the us would have enough space for the sti or 370 to hit 150 stock. the awd all lack top end because they have less hp, shape like my house, short ratio gearbox. it has nothing to do with the limiter.

Methodical4u · 09-01-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

the 2011 wrx i assume? if they make the same power, sure the difference would be a lot smaller obviously. still, the sti's suuspension and awd are way superior, you can easily see the difference when you observe how much the wrx plows.

i am sure the wrx is improved in everyway and they have narrowed the gap to the sti and it would be easy to say you can mod a wrx to be faster than a sti. it might be true at the drag strip. as a track and autoz nut, i can tell you almost none of the modified wrx drive as fast as a sti. you can sink 5000 into it and it would still have a tough time running away from the sti. the new one is probably not as bad, but its always funny to see guys who spent tons of money on their wrx and then get beat by a sti

methical, no track in the us would have enough space for the sti or 370 to hit 150 stock. the awd all lack top end because they have less hp, shape like my house, short ratio gearbox. it has nothing to do with the limiter.

No, I was just saying that is where it is limited is all. The X was quite bulky up front and I never did quite figure out that whole reasoning for the boxy front. It sort of looked cool to me before, but now it's just sort of... well not lol

ChrisSlicks · 09-01-2011, 04:43 PM

When I've ridden in a stock Evo X it feels like I'm riding in a minivan - the seat position is so high! Is it just the car ride height or is it the seats?

Methodical4u · 09-01-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

When I've ridden in a stock Evo X it feels like I'm riding in a minivan - the seat position is so high! Is it just the car ride height or is it the seats?

ummm, I don't know... it really depends I guess on how tall you are because other guys have said that they feel like the car is lower and they couldn't see out of the side window very well. I think it's probably the ride height... but i'm a hair over 5'9, so i'm not sure.

Red__Zed · 09-01-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

When I've ridden in a stock Evo X it feels like I'm riding in a minivan - the seat position is so high! Is it just the car ride height or is it the seats?

Evo rides high. Roof is pretty high too, which adds to the feeling.

On the other hand, I can fit in the car with a helmet on, which is nice.

ChrisSlicks · 09-01-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Methodical4u

ummm, I don't know... it really depends I guess on how tall you are because other guys have said that they feel like the car is lower and they couldn't see out of the side window very well. I think it's probably the ride height... but i'm a hair over 5'9, so i'm not sure.

The door sills were really high yes, I could see that being a problem. I'm 6'1, but there was lots of headroom.

red6spd · 09-01-2011, 05:11 PM

Dam, were where all you guys on the other tread?? LOL. I cant believe we are still having this fight abouta WRX being faster then a 370 around the track. Red_Zed you said that the WRX and the STI put down around the same HP to the wheels. How is this possible? The STI makes like what? 35-40hp more? The WRX and STI have almost the same 0-60 and 1/4 mile times because of the gear ratios. The Rex needs only one shift to hit 60 and the STI needs 2.

Red__Zed · 09-01-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

The door sills were really high yes, I could see that being a problem. I'm 6'1, but there was lots of headroom.

How do you run in the Z? If I keep it, I think I'm gonna have to swap the drivers seat.

ChrisSlicks · 09-01-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

How do you run in the Z? If I keep it, I think I'm gonna have to swap the drivers seat.

It is a snug fit. I had a problem at Summit Point because every time I went over the crest and got a little air my head would hit the roof and crunch my neck. Had to recline the seat one click to make it more comfortable. Seats and harnesses will likely be my next mod.

b1adesofcha0s · 09-01-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Dam, were where all you guys on the other tread?? LOL. I cant believe we are still having this fight abouta WRX being faster then a 370 around the track. Red_Zed you said that the WRX and the STI put down around the same HP to the wheels. How is this possible? The STI makes like what? 35-40hp more? The WRX and STI have almost the same 0-60 and 1/4 mile times because of the gear ratios. The Rex needs only one shift to hit 60 and the STI needs 2.

What did you run in the 1/4 mile?

Red__Zed · 09-01-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Dam, were where all you guys on the other tread?? LOL. I cant believe we are still having this fight abouta WRX being faster then a 370 around the track. Red_Zed you said that the WRX and the STI put down around the same HP to the wheels. How is this possible? The STI makes like what? 35-40hp more? The WRX and STI have almost the same 0-60 and 1/4 mile times because of the gear ratios. The Rex needs only one shift to hit 60 and the STI needs 2.

Are you familiar with the way Nissan underrated the GTR's power levels for years?

Red__Zed · 09-01-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

It is a snug fit. I had a problem at Summit Point because every time I went over the crest and got a little air my head would hit the roof and crunch my neck. Had to recline the seat one click to make it more comfortable. Seats and harnesses will likely be my next mod.

Yeah. I've stopped taking my Z out because it absolutely destroys my neck to try and fit in with my helmet on. It frustrates me that the seats can't be adjusted lower.

ChrisSlicks · 09-01-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Yeah. I've stopped taking my Z out because it absolutely destroys my neck to try and fit in with my helmet on. It frustrates me that the seats can't be adjusted lower.

I think the Touring is even worse than the base due to all the motors.

cossie1600 · 09-01-2011, 06:42 PM

Yeah due to the height of the roof on the EVO/STI, you are going to feel like you are in a truck regardless. It's the same reason why I laugh at the guys who drop their seats and they can barely see over the steering wheel.

cossie1600 · 09-01-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Are you familiar with the way Nissan underrated the GTR's power levels for years?

Edmund has the WRX trapping at about 98mph. EVO @ 101. 2011 STI @97 and 2008 STI (old generation) at @102. It wouldn't surprirse me if you are right that the new wrx dynos the same as the STI. At the same time, I believe it is more due to the STI not putting down advertised power. If the WRX puts out 300 at the crank, it would trap 99-101.

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cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 29	Yeah due to the height of the roof on the EVO/STI, you are going to feel like you are in a truck regardless. It's the same reason why I laugh at the guys who drop their seats and they can barely see over the steering wheel.