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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks Did you get to run an Auto-X with the stock sway bars for comparison? The stock swaybars are honestly adequate in the front but way too

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Old 04-03-2009, 01:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Did you get to run an Auto-X with the stock sway bars for comparison?
The stock swaybars are honestly adequate in the front but way too soft in the rear. The car understeers like a pig from the factory.
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The stock swaybars are honestly adequate in the front but way too soft in the rear. The car understeers like a pig from the factory.
I'm in stock class for this season so I can't change the rear bar, only the front one. I guess an alternative option would be to find and adjustable front bar that can go softer than stock.
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The stock swaybars are honestly adequate in the front but way too soft in the rear. The car understeers like a pig from the factory.
funny you say that. i think the hotchkis front sway is MUCH to stiff, and my car has so much understeer its taken the fun out of driving it hard.
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funny you say that. i think the hotchkis front sway is MUCH to stiff, and my car has so much understeer its taken the fun out of driving it hard.
I had the same problem.

Get the SPC camber arms and set the front camber to between -2.0 and -2.5. The understeer will be completely eradicated.
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I had the same problem.

Get the SPC camber arms and set the front camber to between -2.0 and -2.5. The understeer will be completely eradicated.
What does this do to the longevity of your tires? Do you drive this car on the road with it set this way?
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I had the same problem.

Get the SPC camber arms and set the front camber to between -2.0 and -2.5. The understeer will be completely eradicated.

front tires are already showing slight uneven wear from dropping it ~1". while i dont mind cranking the camber, i think of it as sort of a band aide to the problem. even the rear bar set to the stiffest position, oversteer can only be achived by hard accelleration out of turns.

i mean, the car is STIFF. pulling into my driveway at an angle causes the rear inside tire to literally lift off the ground.
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What does this do to the longevity of your tires? Do you drive this car on the road with it set this way?
For me it increases the longevity of the tires. Even at -2.5 I am wearing more on the outside of my tires than I am on the inside.

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front tires are already showing slight uneven wear from dropping it ~1". while i dont mind cranking the camber, i think of it as sort of a band aide to the problem. even the rear bar set to the stiffest position, oversteer can only be achived by hard accelleration out of turns.

i mean, the car is STIFF. pulling into my driveway at an angle causes the rear inside tire to literally lift off the ground.
I can achieve oversteer at any speed with the front camber adjusted. I certainly wouldn't increase camber to this extreme on a street driven only car or one that sees a lot of daily highway miles. However for right now highway puts little wear on my tires compared to the abuse they receive at auto-x.

For cars that see more street driving than track driving I think the Stillen sway bars are better. Hopefully the adjustable whiteline bars will be out soon as well, although I'm certain those will be pretty stiff as well.
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