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Originally Posted by phunk Seb has been testing the twin pump with the new surge canister add-on kit for a couple days now. Gradually asking it for more, to see

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Old 12-02-2021, 01:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Seb has been testing the twin pump with the new surge canister add-on kit for a couple days now. Gradually asking it for more, to see if he can find a limit to what it will do. Today he took it hard around a right hand on ramp, with the low fuel level light on, and then went full throttle with his 650-700whp map... no hiccups. This would of course not be possible without some form of surge protection.

As time goes on, we will find out more what its capable of. Higher power (fuel consumption rate) is asking more from it, more aggressive back and forth sloshing is asking more of it. It will be interesting to see where the limit is, or if anyone finds it. But I think its safe to say at this point that the canister add-on for the twin pump has the fuel slosh issue well under control.

Even if a limit is found beyond what its been through so far, it is still a world of improvement already and should be all that most users need. On top of that, I have one more add-on for the twin pump coming. Its a multi-point scavenging kit that is going to scavenge fuel from the remote corners of the tank. With this final addition, there is not really much else to ask from a fuel pump system.

The only reason to proceed with the RRP2.0 is to have something for people who dont want to install a return system, primarily naturally aspirated track cars. But the RRP2.0 will still be setup to accommodate big power and return systems anyway, because people are known to change directions with their build.
Hi phunk

I was reading through this user's experience with the Radium kit - not sure if it applies to your system, so i apologize in advance:
Radium Fuel Hanger Surge Tank and Akebono upgrades, installed by Enthusiast Auto Care

Two issues that caught my attention:

The installer noted a need to upgrade the wiring to accomodate the draw from the aftermarket pumps. I was reading through some of the literature on Radium's website (as a total notice), and it appears there is a pretty obvious relationship between the power draw and the flow ability , although some can be more efficient than others. Will your system need upgraded wiring, and if so, will it be provided?

Also, this user noted some inaccurate fuel readings after installation; the car would show near empty when there was still over a gallon and left or so. IS this an electrical thing, and an issue that can be avoided?

Thanks for your work man!
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Hi phunk

I was reading through this user's experience with the Radium kit - not sure if it applies to your system, so i apologize in advance:
Radium Fuel Hanger Surge Tank and Akebono upgrades, installed by Enthusiast Auto Care

Two issues that caught my attention:

The installer noted a need to upgrade the wiring to accomodate the draw from the aftermarket pumps. I was reading through some of the literature on Radium's website (as a total notice), and it appears there is a pretty obvious relationship between the power draw and the flow ability , although some can be more efficient than others. Will your system need upgraded wiring, and if so, will it be provided?

Also, this user noted some inaccurate fuel readings after installation; the car would show near empty when there was still over a gallon and left or so. IS this an electrical thing, and an issue that can be avoided?

Thanks for your work man!
The stock fuel pump wiring is inadequate for even a mild fuel pump upgrade. There is no way around adding larger wires when upgrading the pump or adding an additional pump. I already sell fuel pump relay kits, whether it will come standard with the kit (it did with original RRP) or as an option is TBD. Lots of people already have a fuel pump wiring upgrade, so it might be ideal to let people decide if they need it rather than including it default.

I read the post you mention regarding the fuel level gauge. It sounds like radium might have raised the fuel level sensor mounting point so that the gauge reads lower than it really is. This would not be an unreasonable thing to do, so long as the gauge is still fully functional. To verify the change, an installer could just measure the mounting position of the sensor compared to stock. I had a radium unit here to inspect and check out, but I did not think to measure their sensor position.
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