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Originally Posted by phunk Seb actually ended up installing his (twin pump surge canister add-on kit) today and based on texting with him from when he started until it was

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Old 11-28-2021, 11:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Seb actually ended up installing his (twin pump surge canister add-on kit) today and based on texting with him from when he started until it was running, I feel like it must have taken around 90 min to install or so. Now I just await confirmation that there are no issues to address.

The RRP 2.0, we will see how the timeline works! I spent all weekend moving the stockroom, and this is my first post in my new stockroom as I just got my desk setup. I cant wait to make the RRP 2.0 final parts, the last pieces design turned out super slick.
How different is it from the 1st gen?
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How different is it from the 1st gen?
I would say there are 3 angles to compare.

Plumbing Schematic: Used in a naturally aspirated car with stock fuel system, the schematic is unchanged. For a return system, the connections will be made differently but I never had an official schematic for using the old one with return systems anyway, each install was an individual.

Installation Kit: totally different. The cross-tank hoses are no longer inside the tank. Todays average DIYer doesn't want to spend the time to understand the product or why they connect "this to that" well enough to be working with things blind. Also it makes diagnostics too difficult for individuals who dont understand the system. Installation kits for return and returnless will be totally different. They havent been built yet, but the gist of them is in my head and will be finalized when the main hardware is ready.

Main Hardware: Not a single shared component with the old kit, but ultimately what we have is a canister in the tank with fuel pump(s) in it. Serves the same purpose. Displacement remains huge. But the new model is a lot more intuitive and accommodating for setting up to support big power with twin pumps and return system. For naturally aspirated use, there is really nothing to write home about gained, it just looks cooler/nicer as youd expect 10 years later.
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I would say there are 3 angles to compare.

Plumbing Schematic: Used in a naturally aspirated car with stock fuel system, the schematic is unchanged. For a return system, the connections will be made differently but I never had an official schematic for using the old one with return systems anyway, each install was an individual.

Installation Kit: totally different. The cross-tank hoses are no longer inside the tank. Todays average DIYer doesn't want to spend the time to understand the product or why they connect "this to that" well enough to be working with things blind. Also it makes diagnostics too difficult for individuals who dont understand the system. Installation kits for return and returnless will be totally different. They havent been built yet, but the gist of them is in my head and will be finalized when the main hardware is ready.

Main Hardware: Not a single shared component with the old kit, but ultimately what we have is a canister in the tank with fuel pump(s) in it. Serves the same purpose. Displacement remains huge. But the new model is a lot more intuitive and accommodating for setting up to support big power with twin pumps and return system. For naturally aspirated use, there is really nothing to write home about gained, it just looks cooler/nicer as youd expect 10 years later.
Is the pricing going to be somewhat similar for the new kit? It sounds like for N/A I should probably just install the kit I already have. Plus, the blue anodized canister on my RRP kit matches my CJM oil pan. Can't have non-matching colors on hidden elements from the same company
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Is the pricing going to be somewhat similar for the new kit? It sounds like for N/A I should probably just install the kit I already have. Plus, the blue anodized canister on my RRP kit matches my CJM oil pan. Can't have non-matching colors on hidden elements from the same company
It should be similar but maybe a little less. Material costs have gone up but otherwise its become easier for me to produce this stuff than 10 years ago when the RRP 1.0 came out
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It should be similar but maybe a little less. Material costs have gone up but otherwise its become easier for me to produce this stuff than 10 years ago when the RRP 1.0 came out
Just order all custom HS-79 XRP fuel lines & you will completely forget about CJM’s fuel part’s prices

Plus side is; hose are true to spec (-6=3/8”id, -8=1/2”id, -10=5/8”id)
Also they can crimp -6 fittings on -8 hoses for clearance to fit twin pump hat.

And - you’ll have your name engraved on the crimp collars

Lightweight & Supple,,,kinda like the way your wallet will feel afterwards
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Just order all custom HS-79 XRP fuel lines & you will completely forget about CJM’s fuel part’s prices

Plus side is; hose are true to spec (-6=3/8”id, -8=1/2”id, -10=5/8”id)
Also they can crimp -6 fittings on -8 hoses for clearance to fit twin pump hat.

And - you’ll have your name engraved on the crimp collars

Lightweight & Supple,,,kinda like the way your wallet will feel afterwards
I actually offer XRP line upgrades for the normal fuel system kits, I just dont have them listed online. But I have their crimping equipment and stock some of their components and upgrade kits for people that want to pay the premium for it.. which isnt many. Ive sold maybe 20 XRP'd kits.
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