Z-tech traction control module + brake boost + burnout

Rusty · 04-19-2021, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maestro666

On my first track day I beat far more experienced drivers and it had nothing to do with skill and was only because I was in a faster car with better handling. A car which I had already modified to be faster. I even got within a second the time a guy with 2 years experience on the same course got with his stock 370.

A lot of the advice here that you can't go faster without seat time is just wrong.

What track, and what was your time?

Just wait until you get on the track with some spec Miata's practicing. You might be able to pass them on the straights. They will run your azz over in the corners.

Maestro666 · 04-19-2021, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Who said that?

I don't think that's what anyone is trying to say. More that the stock car is plenty capable for a novice driver. And it is a better value to spend money on seat time with an instructor than on modifications. Seat time is just more valuable in general - you can take it with you to another car. And for a novice, most people would recommend the seat time before going hog wild on mods with limited initial return value.

Put that experienced driver in your car and see how much faster he is. And how fast would you be in his stock car? I think that data might give you a reasonable indication of the value of mods vs seat time.

Without a doubt the experienced driver would have got a much faster time in my car, but that's my point. It was a better car and the better car allowed me to get a better time, regardless of skill.

With seat time you are limited by scheduled events and sometimes there are so many entrants that you hardly get many laps in.

Just adding stiffer springs, for instance, makes the car handle so much better over stock sloppy suspension

Maestro666 · 04-19-2021, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

What track, and what was your time?

Just wait until you get on the track with some spec Miata's practicing. You might be able to pass them on the straights. They will run your azz over in the corners.

It was an amateur event in a small town.

I don't need to wait. I got absolutely cleaned up by a stock 370z with only adjustable arms in the hands of a grandpa driver on street tyres in a professional televised event. He beat me by 10 seconds.

Hotrodz · 04-20-2021, 09:51 AM

I think you are missing the point. Yes a more well balanced car will result in better lap times. It is why you see fast lap times from low skilled drivers in late model cars or track cars that have been properly setup. Those cars mask the driver's true abilities. You went faster because of your confidence along with your new setup. Good for you! That said, you are still limited by your time and understanding of proper driving. Your new found confidence can also lead to tragedy (I really hope not) as many drivers that experience what you have end up in a scenario where they run out of talent because they think they are better than they are. The thing you have to keep in mind is the faster you go the greater the consequences when things go bad. As Clint Eastwood famously said, "A man has to know his limitations!"

Rusty · 04-20-2021, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I think you are missing the point. Yes a more well balanced car will result in better lap times. It is why you see fast lap times from low skilled drivers in late model cars or track cars that have been properly setup. Those cars mask the driver's true abilities. You went faster because of your confidence along with your new setup. Good for you! That said, you are still limited by your time and understanding of proper driving. Your new found confidence can also lead to tragedy (I really hope not) as many drivers that experience what you have end up in a scenario where they run out of talent because they think they are better than they are. The thing you have to keep in mind is the faster you go the greater the consequences when things go bad. As Clint Eastwood famously said, "A man has to know his limitations!"

Well said.

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