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What harnesses are you guys using? I am looking into getting some FIA rated ones.

Why did you choose your harness?

Pros?

Cons?

Also, I am not ready for a cage so what harness bar options are available?

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Why did you choose your harness?
SPARCO 6 pt, driver and passenger
just like the way it looked, vs other
also got in red
Pros?
was just my personal choice vs looking at others.

Cons?
none, but make sure you leave in the regular seat belts, find it easier to use for
daily use. At times, the harness has to be placed out of the way, and it will nick up the
plastic interior a bit.

Also, I am not ready for a cage so what harness bar options are available?
MA Motorsports 370Z Harness Bar

If you plan on doing any track days, both you and the instructor needs the same seat belt/harness.

Also stay away from a 4 pt harness, got one for the passenger side and didn't like it and
had to replace it for track days with a 6 pt harness for 4 pts are not allowed.
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What harnesses are you guys using?

Schroth ASM

Why did you choose your harness?

Good hardware, ASM + single button release for (still questionable) street use to and from track, reputable company

Pros?

Build is great, easy to take on an off. It's a 4 point right now because I haven't mounted a sub bar yet.

Cons?

Longer turnaround for my set when I ordered, although this may have been more the retailers fault than Schroth's.
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Using Sabelt 6 point Saloon harness

Why?
  • I get contingency pricing on Sabelt products through Corner 3 Motorsports as a Nissan Challenge competitor.
  • Sabelt has been a force in professional motorsports for decades, rally, GT, Le Mans Enduro's, F1, you name it. Ferrari also uses their seats in their Ferrari Challenge cars.
  • It has a quick release switch and comes in a beautiful blue shade
  • SFI and FIA certified.

Can't think of any cons to my choice except maybe the price. They are kind of expensive but the quality is next to none.
No recommendations on harness bars since I have a half cage.
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Why did you choose your harness?
SPARCO 6 pt, driver and passenger
just like the way it looked, vs other
also got in red
Pros?
was just my personal choice vs looking at others.

Cons?
none, but make sure you leave in the regular seat belts, find it easier to use for
daily use. At times, the harness has to be placed out of the way, and it will nick up the
plastic interior a bit.

Also, I am not ready for a cage so what harness bar options are available?
MA Motorsports 370Z Harness Bar

If you plan on doing any track days, both you and the instructor needs the same seat belt/harness.

Also stay away from a 4 pt harness, got one for the passenger side and didn't like it and
had to replace it for track days with a 6 pt harness for 4 pts are not allowed.
I will be keeping the factory seat belts. I was leaning towards Sparco since I am getting some of their seats. I saw a cipher harness bar but the price on it (cheap) made me feel like my life was worth more than that lol. Both seats will have the same harness so I should be covered there.

Any thoughts on belt width? 2”, 3” or 3/2”?
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If you plan on doing any track days, both you and the instructor needs the same seat belt/harness.
is there a reason for this? I was planning to just do harness on driver side and passenger having 3 point seat belt
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Using Sabelt 6 point Saloon harness

Why?
  • I get contingency pricing on Sabelt products through Corner 3 Motorsports as a Nissan Challenge competitor.
  • Sabelt has been a force in professional motorsports for decades, rally, GT, Le Mans Enduro's, F1, you name it. Ferrari also uses their seats in their Ferrari Challenge cars.
  • It has a quick release switch and comes in a beautiful blue shade
  • SFI and FIA certified.

Can't think of any cons to my choice except maybe the price. They are kind of expensive but the quality is next to none.
No recommendations on harness bars since I have a half cage.
Blue wouldn’t be my first choice of color lol. Is your half cage custom or bolt/weld in? What’s the ballpark on one? If it’s not much more than a harness bar then I may just sting a little more the added safety.
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is there a reason for this? I was planning to just do harness on driver side and passenger having 3 point seat belt
From what I understand it would be fine, but it kind of shows that you don’t care for the safety of the instructor as much as yourself. Could be wrong though
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Blue wouldn’t be my first choice of color lol. Is your half cage custom or bolt/weld in? What’s the ballpark on one? If it’s not much more than a harness bar then I may just sting a little more the added safety.
They also offer it in red and black. Recommend you get the 3 inch if you are ever thinking of getting a HANS, anything smaller than a 3 inch and you run the risk of the harness straps sliding off the shoulder pad of the HANS.

My roll bar is a 4 point weld in. Had it done by Pierce Motorsports in Hawthorne, CA. They charged me $1k to to build, install and for welding.

If you're looking for something cheaper than that, you might want to try Autopower. They make an inexpensive bolt in roll bar that probably goes for about $400-$500. If you're handy you might be able to bolt it in yourself but, I wouldn't personally recommend that since this is a safety system we're talking about.

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What harnesses are you guys using? I am looking into getting some FIA rated ones.

Why did you choose your harness?

Pros?

Cons?

Also, I am not ready for a cage so what harness bar options are available?

Thanks in advance.
RPM Roll Bar 4 Point - Schroth Profi II Hans 6PT Camlock Harness - Hans 3

Not sure what your current or end goals are but they shaped my choices significantly. I wanted to make my car as close to a dedicated race car's safety systems as I could without making it not safe in the street (you can't wear a helmet on the street).

So I would have to look at a number of things, #1 seat, #2 harness, #3 cage/harness bar, #4 steering wheel, #5 fire suppression. There are a number of smaller details as well but I won't go over them here.

#1 I didn't want to diminish the current level of safety of the car on the street so I wanted to keep the side airbag functional but I needed a seat with harness holes. I also wanted seats with good side bolsters to prevent me from sliding around. So the only real option with the Nismo Juke seats so I had to search for months till I good deal showed up. Ideally I would have a seat with a fixed back but that would exclude OEM seats with airbags.

#2 Harness, easy 6 Point Cam Lock. There wasn't much price difference from 5 to 6 and 6 spreads out the load a little better in an important area so. With went with the cam lock because it's so simple do and undo which can be very important in the event of a fire. I went with Schroth Profi II hans because I liked how easily I could adjust them which I would be doing every time I got into the car at events. It's also important to select your Hans device too at this point to make sure the channels will fit your harness strap width. Just like an airbag doesn't work well without a seat belt your harness doesn't work well without a hans and helmet. Make sure the 3 work together well.

#3 In all honesty a High quality harness bar would have been better I think in the long run over the 4 point roll cage. (MA-Motorsports makes a good one) This is because I don't have to worry about parts of my body hitting the top bar middle (the only place in the open) on the street, it's padded now but that sfi padding is still very hard and more for helmets. At the time I questioned how good a lot of the harness bars were since most only mounted to 2 places and few mounted to actual places of strength in the vehicle. RPM Rollbars was and I think still is the only good bolt in roll bar manufacturer for out car, I didn't want weld in because of having to remove the interior for welding. Opted not to get the 5 point just because it would add some points that something could get snagged on and didn't look all the strong.

#4 The wheel was an easy decision because I couldn't find a way to keep the oem for the street and then have a detachable one for the track. They do make entering and exiting much easier since, but since I had sliders on the seat it wasn't too much of an issue.

#5 Fire suppression would be nice but a full system would be way to much for my level of commitment so I invested in some fire gear. One day I will get a hand held bottle in the event for some reason I couldn't get out. As always the first priority is to exit in a fire not to fiddle with an extinguisher.
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RPM Roll Bar 4 Point - Schroth Profi II Hans 6PT Camlock Harness - Hans 3

Not sure what your current or end goals are but they shaped my choices significantly. I wanted to make my car as close to a dedicated race car's safety systems as I could without making it not safe in the street (you can't wear a helmet on the street).

So I would have to look at a number of things, #1 seat, #2 harness, #3 cage/harness bar, #4 steering wheel, #5 fire suppression. There are a number of smaller details as well but I won't go over them here.

#1 I didn't want to diminish the current level of safety of the car on the street so I wanted to keep the side airbag functional but I needed a seat with harness holes. I also wanted seats with good side bolsters to prevent me from sliding around. So the only real option with the Nismo Juke seats so I had to search for months till I good deal showed up. Ideally I would have a seat with a fixed back but that would exclude OEM seats with airbags.

#2 Harness, easy 6 Point Cam Lock. There wasn't much price difference from 5 to 6 and 6 spreads out the load a little better in an important area so. With went with the cam lock because it's so simple do and undo which can be very important in the event of a fire. I went with Schroth Profi II hans because I liked how easily I could adjust them which I would be doing every time I got into the car at events. It's also important to select your Hans device too at this point to make sure the channels will fit your harness strap width. Just like an airbag doesn't work well without a seat belt your harness doesn't work well without a hans and helmet. Make sure the 3 work together well.

#3 In all honesty a High quality harness bar would have been better I think in the long run over the 4 point roll cage. (MA-Motorsports makes a good one) This is because I don't have to worry about parts of my body hitting the top bar middle (the only place in the open) on the street, it's padded now but that sfi padding is still very hard and more for helmets. At the time I questioned how good a lot of the harness bars were since most only mounted to 2 places and few mounted to actual places of strength in the vehicle. RPM Rollbars was and I think still is the only good bolt in roll bar manufacturer for out car, I didn't want weld in because of having to remove the interior for welding. Opted not to get the 5 point just because it would add some points that something could get snagged on and didn't look all the strong.

#4 The wheel was an easy decision because I couldn't find a way to keep the oem for the street and then have a detachable one for the track. They do make entering and exiting much easier since, but since I had sliders on the seat it wasn't too much of an issue.

#5 Fire suppression would be nice but a full system would be way to much for my level of commitment so I invested in some fire gear. One day I will get a hand held bottle in the event for some reason I couldn't get out. As always the first priority is to exit in a fire not to fiddle with an extinguisher.
Thanks for the input. I suppose the end goal for the car is a well sorted hpde car but who knows how deep down the rabbit hole I will end up. I suppose a harness bar would work for my needs, but I also like the idea of having as much safety as I can get without having a full on cage at this point.

I won't have sliders in my car so I'm hoping I'm nimble enough to get in and out without an aftermarket steering wheel lol
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