2013 Car and Driver Lightning Lap

red6spd · 05-08-2013, 09:45 AM

I know I will just be told I'm making crap up and I will be demanded to show proof but its been so long ago its hard to find but the 370 in this test was abused heavily for every mile on its clock. Its the same 370Z they achieved a pathetic 0-60 time of around 5.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile in the high 13's. In the same article they even mention it felt wrong the car. So I know I will be blasted by some people but this is the reason this car ran such a garbage lap.

370zrider · 05-08-2013, 10:08 AM

How far from the 3:12.5 of the 350z you think the 370z could have been?

1 second quicker ?

lemon-fresh · 05-08-2013, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd

I know I will just be told I'm making crap up and I will be demanded to show proof but its been so long ago its hard to find but the 370 in this test was abused heavily for every mile on its clock. Its the same 370Z they achieved a pathetic 0-60 time of around 5.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile in the high 13's. In the same article they even mention it felt wrong the car. So I know I will be blasted by some people but this is the reason this car ran such a garbage lap.

Yea, pretty sure they ran into a couple of the well known track day issues the 370 is known for. Overheating and brake fade, which resulted in them wrecking the car and not being able to record as many decent laps.

ChrisSlicks · 05-08-2013, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zrider

How far from the 3:12.5 of the 350z you think the 370z could have been?

1 second quicker ?

Approximately. The improved power to weight dictates as such, it suggests that the driver didn't have confidence with the vehicle. Same reason the 458 beat the ZR1, the driver connected with the 458 and had no issue attacking corners with it, the ZR1 while very capable, feels completely different. They may not be getting enough seat time to come to terms with the vehicle.

They do use multiple drivers, but they are all amateurs, for it to be really fair they would have to borrow the Stig for a few days.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2013, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

For over $40k I definitely wouldn't be buying a Z. Under $35k sure.

I added my own stereo, beefed up the brakes,oil cooler and dropped and swayed it. I knew once i did that plus the $34k i paid for the car. I had a great deal on my hands. The touring pkg pricing is a joke. The nav is laughable to hysteria... The nismo. A lot of good parts but not worth the extra weight. There's other ways to conquer rigidity without adding so much weight.

I Think there's better cars to buy if you're interested in the Z's touring pkg. I can tell you coming from a G. The G37s offers so much more for not too much more money if you're interested in refinement.

The 1series @ $46k gives a nice interior, better than the touring, with Z like performance. I just don't like Bimmer seats.

A corvette GS with rebate. Mustang Boss 302 and 2SS1LE come to mind when thinking of bang for buck in the 40k-50k range.

But $35,000. Base + sport cant be beat as an overall pkg... in spite of.

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I added my own stereo, beefed up the brakes,oil cooler and dropped and swayed it. I knew once i did that plus the $34k i paid for the car. I had a great deal on my hands. The touring pkg pricing is a joke. The nav is laughable to hysteria... The nismo. A lot of good parts but not worth the extra weight. There's other ways to conquer rigidity without adding so much weight.

Yeah this time around I just got the Base + Sport. First thing I did was swap the HU out for a Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS. I have some Polk speakers on hand but with just the HU swap the stock speakers aren't bad at all. I will still swap them out when I get a chance.

Nav... I have my phone and a Garmin with lifetime map updates.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2013, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yeah this time around I just got the Base + Sport. First thing I did was swap the HU out for a Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS. I have some Polk speakers on hand but with just the HU swap the stock speakers aren't bad at all. I will still swap them out when I get a chance.

Nav... I have my phone and a Garmin with lifetime map updates.

I'm putting the 8400 in my wifes car and putting the upcoming 8500 in mine. Love what pioneer has been doing the last 2 years. They are really changing there game up

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 11:59 AM

I was amazed when I found that my unit was only $350 shipped from Amazon prime.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2013, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I was amazed when I found that my unit was only $350 shipped from Amazon prime.

Amazon.com com is

the best.

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 12:02 PM

As I like to say, "If it isn't on Prime, I don't need it."

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2013, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

As I like to say, "If it isn't on Prime, I don't need it."

mostly. They don't sell mags on amazon. lol I need that.

RoshDawg · 05-08-2013, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd

I know I will just be told I'm making crap up and I will be demanded to show proof but its been so long ago its hard to find but the 370 in this test was abused heavily for every mile on its clock. Its the same 370Z they achieved a pathetic 0-60 time of around 5.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile in the high 13's. In the same article they even mention it felt wrong the car. So I know I will be blasted by some people but this is the reason this car ran such a garbage lap.

I know exactly what you're referring to. The diff in the car was completely open from what I remember?

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-08-2013, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd

I know I will just be told I'm making crap up and I will be demanded to show proof but its been so long ago its hard to find but the 370 in this test was abused heavily for every mile on its clock. Its the same 370Z they achieved a pathetic 0-60 time of around 5.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile in the high 13's. In the same article they even mention it felt wrong the car. So I know I will be blasted by some people but this is the reason this car ran such a garbage lap.

the couple times my Z ran in the 5.3 range, it was 106 degrees out. I remember beat to shyt testers in a few articles.

m4a1mustang · 05-08-2013, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoshDawg

I know exactly what you're referring to. The diff in the car was completely open from what I remember?

After a couple corners the diff goes that way anyways.

The real shame should be on Nissan, though. If they had given the Nismo proper brakes and an oil cooler (it is supposed to be the "track" model right?) it would have been able to make laps without issue.

7speed · 05-08-2013, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to tire, IMO. Get the widest tire you can on the thing. That's why all the dedicated track guys are running as wide a tire as they possibly can... maximum grip.

The NISMO should be faster than a Sport on a road course. More tire and more rigid. And at a track like VIR the aero enhancements will help. The NISMO generates 150lbs of downforce at 75 mph, which is not insignificant at VIR.

Maybe but edmunds had a different take...........

"Handling Comments: (Slalom) Added stiffness makes Nismo harder to handle in our slalom which isn't very smooth. I'm confident this car is quicker on a racetrack, but the sharp bump at cone 3 makes it a challenge here. Same speed as the normal car, but a lot more work to get there. (Skid pad) Communication is good, but overall this doesn't seem like a great street setup, and grip is inexplicably less than the standard Z"

Track Tested: 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring

05-08-2013, 09:45 AM	#46 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	I know I will just be told I'm making crap up and I will be demanded to show proof but its been so long ago its hard to find but the 370 in this test was abused heavily for every mile on its clock. Its the same 370Z they achieved a pathetic 0-60 time of around 5.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile in the high 13's. In the same article they even mention it felt wrong the car. So I know I will be blasted by some people but this is the reason this car ran such a garbage lap. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

05-08-2013, 10:08 AM	#47 (permalink)
370zrider Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Mexico Posts: 106 Drives: 370zM6tour12nosport Rep Power: 12	How far from the 3:12.5 of the 350z you think the 370z could have been? 1 second quicker ? __________________ Stillen [gen3 CAI + headers + HFC + Exhaust + UD Pulley + lightweight flywheel] + Uprev e-tune+ PC680 Odyssey battery + oil cooler + MishimotoThermostat = 312whp + 252wtq @1,500mts or 5,000ft elevation

05-08-2013, 11:59 AM	#53 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I was amazed when I found that my unit was only $350 shipped from Amazon prime. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

05-08-2013, 12:02 PM	#55 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	As I like to say, "If it isn't on Prime, I don't need it." __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
[FOR SALE] Work t1s step lip 20x9.5 10.5 +3 +0 lightning silver	Garrydg07	Parts for sale (Private Classifieds)	4	10-14-2012 09:52 PM
NJMP Lightning Track	Zxces50	Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip	1	08-10-2012 07:01 PM
my Z in the middle of a lightning storm	Danny3.7	Photography	15	08-29-2011 07:09 PM
2011 Lightning Lap	theDreamer	Other Vehicles	20	01-07-2011 11:03 AM
Car and Driver tests $30K-$60K cars in VIR Lightning Lap.	onethreefive	Other Vehicles	14	12-13-2008 04:23 PM