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2013 Car and Driver Lightning Lap

Full List by Times
Ferrari 458 - 2.49.9
Lexus LFA - 2.55.1
Chevy Camaro ZL1 - 2.57.5
Merc C63 Black Series - 2.58.0
Porsche 911 S - 2.58.9
Ford Shelby GT500 - 3.00.6
Chevy Camaro SS 1LE - 3.01.5
Jaguar XKR-S - 3.02.1
Porsche Boxster S - 3.04.2
Audi RS5 - 3.04.3
BMW M6 - 3.04.7
BMW M5 - 3.05.2
Audi S6 - 3.09.8
BMW 335i sedan - 3.13.2
Hyundai Genesis 3.8 R - 3.13.9
Dodge Charger Pursuit - 3.17.8
Subaru BRZ - 3.18.6
Ford Focus St - 3.21.4
Chevy Caprice PPV - 3.23.0
Fiat 500 Abarth - 3.27.3

What are your guys' thoughts on these lap times?
I feel like this event every year shows a lot of upsets! Such as a Boxster S beating a 2013 M6??
Check out this link too: Lightning Lap 2012 - - Car and Driver
For example, a Cayman R beat a 911 Turbo??

Any other upsets you guys see?

Such a fail that the 370Z is .5 seconds quicker than a 350Z

But I'm happy the ISF beat the M3, which is a surprise, but I have one, so happy me!

EDIT... Same exact time, lol

i always follow this as i do a good amount of tracking up at VIR (full course not the grand course like the test) so I looked at this a few weeks ago and my thoughts were the two things for the 2013 group... #1 the LFA did about what i would have guessed and that #2 damn ferrari must have brought out one of their special 458s for the test lol. that car pulling a 2:49 and beating a Zr1 time that was on Michelin cup tires just seems crazy. I would have pegged the car to be around 2:52-2:53 based on how it usually stacks up in other tests like this.

other thought was the ZL1 camaro had a solid time i would have guessed it right at or just squeezing in under the 3 min mark

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 2102939)

I agree on the Ferrari thing. You can never trust a single Ferrari lap time from a car magazine with all their cheating. Poor car magazines have to go along with it though or they can't drive a Ferrari again!

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2102921)

Such a fail that the 370Z is .5 seconds quicker than a 350Z

But I'm happy the ISF beat the M3, which is a surprise, but I have one, so happy me!

EDIT... Same exact time, lol

Seriously! Wtf!! Just doesn't make sense to me..

SS 1LE

Talk about underrated.

My 09 CTS-V still beats the new M6, that's what I like. Go look at the list as tabulated from 2008 to include all times up to 2013.

Makes me want a Mustang 5.0...I got the 370z because I liked the feel of it better, but dang..

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2102921)

Such a fail that the 370Z is .5 seconds quicker than a 350Z

But I'm happy the ISF beat the M3, which is a surprise, but I have one, so happy me!

EDIT... Same exact time, lol

you should be able to get better time just by getting grippier tires, no?

Wow, 370 failed hard... Sigh. Might as well just buy the 5.0 now. :shakes head:

:stirthepot:

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2103236)

you should be able to get better time just by getting grippier tires, no?

I don't know if you're talking about the 370 v 350

Or ISF v M3. Lol

The ISF IS a slower car around a track, so I'm amazed it got by in the same time actually

What I find most interesting is how fast the Camaro ZL1 is b/w Ferrari and Mercedes AMG . . .

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Originally Posted by RoshDawg (Post 2102917)

Full List by Times
Ferrari 458 - 2.49.9 Suprised.
Lexus LFA - 2.55.1 Surprised.
Chevy Camaro ZL1 - 2.57.5 I figured it would trounce the GT500.
Merc C63 Black Series - 2.58.0 Total power slut. Figured.
Porsche 911 S - 2.58.9 Good on it! A great car.
Ford Shelby GT500 - 3.00.6 Yeah, all that extra power didn't improve things much. Suspensionfail, and more importantly, passenger-car tire sizing fail.
Chevy Camaro SS 1LE - 3.01.5 Wow! The suspension really made a difference!
Jaguar XKR-S - 3.02.1 No opinion.
Porsche Boxster S - 3.04.2 Similar acceleration to the 370Z, totally killed it's time. Underscores my opinion of the 370Z's suspension and dynamics. Horrible, difficult to control over anything but a billiard-table, and not very good for sweeping corners.
Audi RS5 - 3.04.3 Impressive.
BMW M6 - 3.04.7 We all knew it was a touring car.
BMW M5 - 3.05.2 See above.
Audi S6 - 3.09.8 Touring car.
BMW 335i sedan - 3.13.2 Disappointing.
Hyundai Genesis 3.8 R - 3.13.9 About what I thought.
Dodge Charger Pursuit - 3.17.8 Oink oink!
Subaru BRZ - 3.18.6 About what I figured. 2008 S2000 CR did 3:15.0...wait for the STI model to compete with that.
Ford Focus St - 3.21.4 Cool.
Chevy Caprice PPV - 3.23.0 I care, why?
Fiat 500 Abarth - 3.27.3 See above.

What are your guys' thoughts on these lap times?
I feel like this event every year shows a lot of upsets! Such as a Boxster S beating a 2013 M6??
Check out this link too: Lightning Lap 2012 - - Car and Driver
For example, a Cayman R beat a 911 Turbo??

Any other upsets you guys see?

My thoughts.

Lap times don't really matter to me, especially in a mag. I read the article on print. "meh"

Anyone notice the 3.13.8 for the gencoupe R-spec & 3.17.5 for the infiniti Gcoupe sport???
Not good.

I think the 370z sport needs to be on here. It's 150lbs lighter, the 9/10 staggers are perfect for track vs the 9.5/10.5 borderline overkill for taking corners. And the sport Z should be equipped with RE-11's. Since Nissan keeps hiking the prices on the Z for almost no reason. The least they coulda done was upgrade the stock tires.
Z suspension is easily improved cheaply. Unfortunately though. That can't be done for the lightning lap. The Z potential is much higher than whats on paper here. The Nismo is overkill for this type of tracking.