FRS/BRZ 11.3 @ 127 stock engine

Originally Posted by cv129

Guys, frs/brz is a very well engineered car, perhaps better than the z imo, in stock form and in terms of mod friendly. Heck, toyotabaru made this car so it can carry 4 spare tires for track days.

Fundamentally speaking, in terms of visibility and weight, both very important for sports driving, frs/brz wins by a mile. Z is great, but the toyotabaru is just more purpose built in that way.

Whether the op is stirring the pot or not, fact is we aren't gonna win the mod friendliness battle, the more we try to defend our car, the more we look like condescending axxholes.

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I can fit 4 tires in my Civic, doesn't make it a great track car. The brz/frs is a good car, but not any more "mod friendly" than the Z or any other sports car for that matter. It's the same old recycled mods with minimal gains until you start messing with forced induction. The frs/brz's purpose is to be an affordable sports car...not the perfect sports car.

Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I can fit 4 tires in my Civic, doesn't make it a great track car. The brz/frs is a good car, but not any more "mod friendly" than the Z or any other sports car for that matter. It's the same old recycled mods with minimal gains until you start messing with forced induction. The frs/brz's purpose is to be an affordable sports car...not the perfect sports car.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Get off your high horse, man. Jesus was commissioned to design the LS1 engine years ago. He went into hiatus after it was completed and finally Toyobaru were able to convince him to come and design a car for them: The FT86. It's so good even Tim Tebow drives one.