FRS/BRZ 11.3 @ 127 stock engine

cv129 · 11-20-2012, 10:22 PM

Guys, frs/brz is a very well engineered car, perhaps better than the z imo, in stock form and in terms of mod friendly. Heck, toyotabaru made this car so it can carry 4 spare tires for track days.

Fundamentally speaking, in terms of visibility and weight, both very important for sports driving, frs/brz wins by a mile. Z is great, but the toyotabaru is just more purpose built in that way.

Whether the op is stirring the pot or not, fact is we aren't gonna win the mod friendliness battle, the more we try to defend our car, the more we look like condescending axxholes.

binary0x01 · 11-20-2012, 10:28 PM

Nothing against the FRS, I would take the Z over it any day. What can I say, I really like my car, as I'm sure the FRS/BRZ folks like theirs.

Cmike2780 · 11-21-2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cv129

Guys, frs/brz is a very well engineered car, perhaps better than the z imo, in stock form and in terms of mod friendly. Heck, toyotabaru made this car so it can carry 4 spare tires for track days.

Fundamentally speaking, in terms of visibility and weight, both very important for sports driving, frs/brz wins by a mile. Z is great, but the toyotabaru is just more purpose built in that way.

Whether the op is stirring the pot or not, fact is we aren't gonna win the mod friendliness battle, the more we try to defend our car, the more we look like condescending axxholes.

I can fit 4 tires in my Civic, doesn't make it a great track car. The brz/frs is a good car, but not any more "mod friendly" than the Z or any other sports car for that matter. It's the same old recycled mods with minimal gains until you start messing with forced induction. The frs/brz's purpose is to be an affordable sports car...not the perfect sports car.

b1adesofcha0s · 11-21-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I can fit 4 tires in my Civic, doesn't make it a great track car. The brz/frs is a good car, but not any more "mod friendly" than the Z or any other sports car for that matter. It's the same old recycled mods with minimal gains until you start messing with forced induction. The frs/brz's purpose is to be an affordable sports car...not the perfect sports car.

At the price it's at right now, it's even failing at that IMO. When the excitement dies down a little and they stop marking them up, then it will be a better value.

m4a1mustang · 11-21-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

I can fit 4 tires in my Civic, doesn't make it a great track car. The brz/frs is a good car, but not any more "mod friendly" than the Z or any other sports car for that matter. It's the same old recycled mods with minimal gains until you start messing with forced induction. The frs/brz's purpose is to be an affordable sports car...not the perfect sports car.

Get off your high horse, man. Jesus was commissioned to design the LS1 engine years ago. He went into hiatus after it was completed and finally Toyobaru were able to convince him to come and design a car for them: The FT86. It's so good even Tim Tebow drives one.

b1adesofcha0s · 11-21-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Get off your high horse, man. Jesus was commissioned to design the LS1 engine years ago. He went into hiatus after it was completed and finally Toyobaru were able to convince him to come and design a car for them: The FT86. It's so good even Tim Tebow drives one.

It was designed so that there was enough room for you to Tebow inside of it.

m4a1mustang · 11-21-2012, 08:20 AM

I really do like the FT86 platform, though. I just wish it was cheaper. I would consider one for a daily driver, but I just wish it had moar powar stock.

Cmike2780 · 11-21-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I really do like the FT86 platform, though. I just wish it was cheaper. I would consider one for a daily driver, but I just wish it had moar powar stock.

I'm thinking it will make more sense once we start seeing more of them for sale used. I just hope people don't beat on them too much like they tend to do with something like a 240sx or RX-8 (FD). I wouldn't mind driving an FT86 as a daily, even with the lack of power/torque.

m4a1mustang · 11-21-2012, 09:19 AM

Yeah I wouldn't mind one at all for a DD even with stock power. Just enough to keep it fun.

b1adesofcha0s · 11-21-2012, 09:23 AM

If you could pick up a used one in a couple years for under $20k and put a turbo kit on it, that would make a nice DD/track car

Isamu · 11-21-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

If you could pick up a used one in a couple years for under $20k and put a turbo kit on it, that would make a nice DD/track car

theDreamer · 11-21-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullet370

Sensitive subject, huh? Have you tried adding oil?

Hi Fabio.

theDreamer · 11-21-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullet370

Hi Matt.

I'm not the only one who can use google.

Congrats, you know my first name such as everyone single person on this forum, one internet point for you knowing what everyone else knows.

Also, no searching, it is very simple figure out your account after 2 posts.

b1adesofcha0s · 11-21-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullet370

Hi Matt.

I'm not the only one who can use google.

theDreamer · 11-21-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

What is this now, the 4th person to claim they know my first name? And that is all they know....

11-20-2012, 10:22 PM	#136 (permalink)
cv129 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 3,193 Drives: 09 Nismo, 16 Nismo Rep Power: 159827	Guys, frs/brz is a very well engineered car, perhaps better than the z imo, in stock form and in terms of mod friendly. Heck, toyotabaru made this car so it can carry 4 spare tires for track days. Fundamentally speaking, in terms of visibility and weight, both very important for sports driving, frs/brz wins by a mile. Z is great, but the toyotabaru is just more purpose built in that way. Whether the op is stirring the pot or not, fact is we aren't gonna win the mod friendliness battle, the more we try to defend our car, the more we look like condescending axxholes. Last edited by cv129; 11-20-2012 at 10:25 PM.

11-20-2012, 10:28 PM	#137 (permalink)
binary0x01 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Idaho Posts: 892 Drives: 2012 6-SPEED 3.7L Z Rep Power: 14	Nothing against the FRS, I would take the Z over it any day. What can I say, I really like my car, as I'm sure the FRS/BRZ folks like theirs. UNKNOWN_370 likes this. __________________ Tune (by Seb@SpecialtyZ) -- Upgraded Parts List : When in doubt, use brute force; if it doesn't work, you aren't using enough.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I really do like the FT86 platform, though. I just wish it was cheaper. I would consider one for a daily driver, but I just wish it had moar powar stock. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-21-2012, 09:19 AM	#144 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Yeah I wouldn't mind one at all for a DD even with stock power. Just enough to keep it fun. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	If you could pick up a used one in a couple years for under $20k and put a turbo kit on it, that would make a nice DD/track car __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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