ZL1 beats new GT500

chris410 · 06-20-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It is hard to compare purpose built drag cars to cars that are made to do more.

Trust me, I know more about the struggles of breaking into the 9s than most here.

Reminds me of my Supra when my VPC broke so I could not launch the car with the big turbo :-( On a slick, my car basically rolling out in 1st then getting on it ran a 12.0 @ 126mph and that was on my street tune. I never bothered with my high boost setting because when the VPC died, the car would fall on its face between shifts...very frustrating.

Drag racing to me is a "fun" activity but one that I could not take seriously unless I was pushing 9's in a fully built car. Of course...after racing motorcycles there's honestly not much that cars do to really get me worked up. It's hard to top dragging knee/elbow knowing that one small twist leads to a great lap or breakfast in a hosptial.

Back to the topic...it's hard to disagree that there is a bias towards the camaro. I think if I were to come across a ZL-1 I would give him thumbs up, they are a bad *** car...sadly with ALL cars you end up with some people who are jack asses. I will tell you that a lot of Supra owners (especially the ones with big turbos) had such an arrogance that although I had the car myself I could not stand their attitude towards everyone. That's where you separate speed lovers and people who need a fast car to compensate for a lack of self confidence.

shadoquad · 06-20-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chris410

Reminds me of my Supra when my VPC broke so I could not launch the car with the big turbo :-( On a slick, my car basically rolling out in 1st then getting on it ran a 12.0 @ 126mph and that was on my street tune. I never bothered with my high boost setting because when the VPC died, the car would fall on its face between shifts...very frustrating.

Drag racing to me is a "fun" activity but one that I could not take seriously unless I was pushing 9's in a fully built car. Of course...after racing motorcycles there's honestly not much that cars do to really get me worked up. It's hard to top dragging knee/elbow knowing that one small twist leads to a great lap or breakfast in a hosptial.

Back to the topic...it's hard to disagree that there is a bias towards the camaro. I think if I were to come across a ZL-1 I would give him thumbs up, they are a bad *** car...sadly with ALL cars you end up with some people who are jack asses. I will tell you that a lot of Supra owners (especially the ones with big turbos) had such an arrogance that although I had the car myself I could not stand their attitude towards everyone. That's where you separate speed lovers and people who need a fast car to compensate for a lack of self confidence.

There is a bias. In car magazines, the best car is usually the one made by the company who wets the magazine's whistle the most. It's subtle when the comparisons are close, but sometimes it's glaringly obvious who the writer wants to win, even against all logic.

A note on supra driving jackazzes, there was one at Zdayz. Whole resort packed with RWD sports cars pushing out over 300 hp, and the only person doing donuts and burnouts is in a riced out Supra.

chris410 · 06-20-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

There is a bias. In car magazines, the best car is usually the one made by the company who wets the magazine's whistle the most. It's subtle when the comparisons are close, but sometimes it's glaringly obvious who the writer wants to win, even against all logic.

A note on supra driving jackazzes, there was one at Zdayz. Whole resort packed with RWD sports cars pushing out over 300 hp, and the only person doing donuts and burnouts is in a riced out Supra.

They are the reason I ended up selling my Supra, at one point it was a respected car however, after F&F came out and people started ricing them out...cops would follow me all the time and any excuse to pull me over they would. I had enough and sold the car...and on a good note ended up with quite a bit in my pocket since I sold it for what I bought it for new

I am happy that for the most part the import scene has calmed down but at one point I will admit that it was pretty entertaining.

Isamu · 06-20-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chris410

They are the reason I ended up selling my Supra, at one point it was a respected car however, after F&F came out and people started ricing them out...cops would follow me all the time and any excuse to pull me over they would. I had enough and sold the car...and on a good note ended up with quite a bit in my pocket since I sold it for what I bought it for new

I am happy that for the most part the import scene has calmed down but at one point I will admit that it was pretty entertaining.

makes me so sad...

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chris410

Back to the topic...it's hard to disagree that there is a bias towards the camaro. I think if I were to come across a ZL-1 I would give him thumbs up, they are a bad *** car...sadly with ALL cars you end up with some people who are jack asses. I will tell you that a lot of Supra owners (especially the ones with big turbos) had such an arrogance that although I had the car myself I could not stand their attitude towards everyone. That's where you separate speed lovers and people who need a fast car to compensate for a lack of self confidence.

A couple of days on LS1Tech.com can easily make you feel the same lol

chris410 · 06-20-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

A couple of days on LS1Tech.com can easily make you feel the same lol

I've noticed that vette owners will not look at anyone unless they are in a vette. They are great cars but honestly, they do absolutely nothing for me as far as looks go. That and I see vettes everywhere, Z06's as well. Like you said...with any car there are fanboys so, I try my best to avoid those types. No car is perfect!

Lug · 06-20-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chris410

I've noticed that vette owners will not look at anyone unless they are in a vette. They are great cars but honestly, they do absolutely nothing for me as far as looks go. That and I see vettes everywhere, Z06's as well. Like you said...with any car there are fanboys so, I try my best to avoid those types. No car is perfect!

...except teh 2004.5 350Z.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-20-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

...except teh 2004.5 350Z.

It wasn't just perfect, it was F L A W L E S S

MightyBobo · 06-20-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chris410

I've noticed that vette owners will not look at anyone unless they are in a vette. They are great cars but honestly, they do absolutely nothing for me as far as looks go. That and I see vettes everywhere, Z06's as well. Like you said...with any car there are fanboys so, I try my best to avoid those types. No car is perfect!

And then I remember that like, 50-60% of Vettes are auto's anyway. Their opinion is invalid.

shadoquad · 06-22-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

And then I remember that like, 50-60% of Vettes are auto's anyway. Their opinion is invalid.

The majority of automobiles are autotragic transmissions these days. There are plenty of reasons why, some very valid (medical conditions, beastly commutes), others very weaksauce (I don't wanna learn manual boohoo).

Ferrari and Lambo no longer produce manual vehicles. Of course, that's because the hyper rich only want the appearance of speed and the fastest available.

Most of the Mustang GT's I find on lots are autos. It's just a sign of the times. Most drivers don't appreciate the added control and involvement of rowing the gears yourself. It's a shame, because it's really fun and safer imo.

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