ZL1 beats new GT500

MightyBobo · 06-19-2012, 08:57 AM

Down 80 HP and 300lbs more, superior handling triumphs. Won't lie, I'm fairly impressed.

2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 - On Track - Automobile Magazine

Where's the Shelby boys now? :-p

Red__Zed · 06-19-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Where's the Shelby boys now? :-p

out buying a shorter rear gear, I presume

MightyBobo · 06-19-2012, 09:04 AM

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out buying a shorter rear gear, I presume

b1adesofcha0s · 06-19-2012, 09:28 AM

Trollolololol

Never · 06-19-2012, 09:34 AM

For looks I think the GT500 looks better

MightyBobo · 06-19-2012, 10:20 AM

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For looks I think the GT500 looks better

Not what we're talking about here - just how 662 horsepower wasn't enough to beat a car that has 80 horsepower less, and 300 pounds more weight beat it.

Never · 06-19-2012, 10:25 AM

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Not what we're talking about here - just how 662 horsepower wasn't enough to beat a car that has 80 horsepower less, and 300 pounds more weight beat it.

O ya, I hear ya there. Just saying for looks, I'd pick the GT500. It is kinda sad that it lost. No going to lie there...

shadoquad · 06-19-2012, 10:25 AM

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Not what we're talking about here - just how 662 horsepower wasn't enough to beat a car that has 80 horsepower less, and 300 pounds more weight beat it.

pretty wild

b1adesofcha0s · 06-19-2012, 10:27 AM

This might change with the redesigned and SRA free mustang in 2 years.

m4a1mustang · 06-19-2012, 10:28 AM

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This might change with the redesigned and SRA free mustang in 2 years.

I'm sure it will, considering the next gen Mustang will probably be 1000 lbs lighter than the Camaro.

theDreamer · 06-19-2012, 10:30 AM

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I'm sure it will, considering the next gen Mustang will probably be 1000 lbs lighter than the Camaro.

So it will weight 4000lbs then?

Congrats to GM on the victory, still waiting to see more track results and tests. These two will definitely be so fun comparisons on different tracks, both ring & straight line.

MightyBobo · 06-19-2012, 10:31 AM

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So it will weight 4000lbs then?

Congrats to GM on the victory, still waiting to see more track results and tests. These two will definitely be so fun comparisons on different tracks, both ring & straight line.

Anything with less corners and the GT500 would win, I have no doubt. Moar corners, the ZL1 should emerge triumphant.

Gobs of power can be hard to argue against.

m4a1mustang · 06-19-2012, 10:41 AM

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Lots of rumors the next-gen Camaro will be a radical change too (read, smaller and lighter). If it is, I MAY consider going back to ZE FATHERLAND that is GM.

I think GM knows that if they DON'T make the Camaro significantly lighter, it's game-over against the next-gen Moosestang.

Apparently the Dodge people are trying to put the Challenger on a diet so it can compete with the Mustang/Camaro as well.

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Anything with less corners and the GT500 would win, I have no doubt. Moar corners, the ZL1 should emerge triumphant.

Gobs of power can be hard to argue against.

Most likely.

MightyBobo · 06-19-2012, 12:34 PM

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First, YES...the ZL-1 beat the GT500 in this test however, consider the track layout. If you know anything about racing you'll quickly realize that there are "tight" and "open" tracks so the ZL-1 beating the GT500 on a tight track does not surprise me in the least. With the ZL-1 having the independent suspension I would expect it to beat out the GT500 in handling (tight or open track). Keep in mind, while the GT500 can handle and handle well, let's be honest, the car was designed for 1/4 and higher speed tracks. I would not take a GT500 and try to run tight tracks and given the ZL-1's suspension again...it would not surprise me to see it beat out the GT500 on a more open track however, I would expect the result to be pretty close.

Of course, from a roll, 0-60, 1/4, 1/8, or any other straight line race the GT500 will easily walk a ZL-1. Both are great cars so as a GT500 owner the competition is welcome. Keep in mind that the driver plays a major role as well. A lot of people see what some experienced drivers can do and reality hits when they go to a trackday and end up in the grass or run the 1/4 mile and find themselves slower than expected.

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Anything with less corners and the GT500 would win, I have no doubt. Moar corners, the ZL1 should emerge triumphant.
Gobs of power can be hard to argue against.

Like I said.

They are both great cars. I just find it impressive none the less that the Camaro even was able to pull it out - 80HP and 300 lbs is significant, regardless. GM did their handling homework, you have to give it to them.

MightyBobo · 06-19-2012, 10:30 AM

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I'm sure it will, considering the next gen Mustang will probably be 1000 lbs lighter than the Camaro.

Lots of rumors the next-gen Camaro will be a radical change too (read, smaller and lighter). If it is, I MAY consider going back to ZE FATHERLAND that is GM.

I think GM knows that if they DON'T make the Camaro significantly lighter, it's game-over against the next-gen Moosestang.

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