370Z vs facelifted Genesis Coupe 2012 3.8

RiCharlie

Guess I am showing my age but I remember when the Mustang first came out and I wanted my parents to buy one for me..but $2500 was just way way too much!!

Nguyen128

Tell me what you know about 2.0 Gen's limit? Because none of what you just said holds any water. Btw, I'm pushing 21 psi and I'm fine. There are many on 3076 pushing 19 psi @ 400+ all day. And 29 psi? Wtf were you reading? lollol. The stock TD04 is only efficient to 21 psi. Transmission issues have been remedied for 2011/2012 models. Even if it blows, I'm not worried. 100k warranty is still intact.

$1,100 bucks for Stances will be good enough. Anything better would be $4,000 Cuscos.

4B11's can hold the power, but are you a good enough driver to use it properly?

Please do your research before you fill the forum with false information. Also do a track day and when a Miata/Civic passes you, don't look around like you don't know what happened because those cars don't "compare" to your Z. This isn't a **** size contest. Stop comparing numbers and 1/4 mile times to the track.

At the end of the day, driver mod > car. But this topic was about paper numbers not driving skill in the first place.

cossie1600

It's nice to upgrade the driver, but there is only so much you can do before HP eats you up.

Nguyen128

I'll bite...



We are comparing Gens to 370s. The gap in power is not 300 +/-

Skeeterbop

That video doesn't mean much to me. You have what is essentially a stripped out race car (which I'm not seeing being street legal either) and a good driver against what appears to be a DD Corvette with a not so good driver. If you had drivers of equal skill that corvette would still pull away from the race prpped civic. Now if the corvette driver was good and had a race prepped corvette, you would be back to where it would be if you compared a stock civic to a stock vette

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cossie1600

Here is one with 287 vs 332 HP



287 had better tires and was driven way harder, it was still slower. It's still hard to beat HP.....

I doubt the Z06 had 700HP

gaveup

21psi on a td04? That's awesome, can it still only run 14's in a 1/4 mile? You said your turbo is "efficient" at 21psi. But I am willing to bet a dyno will show your powerband puking and dieing near redline. (Small worthless turbos tend to do that).

Looking over at the gencoupe site, I am not seeing a lot of "fast" or "nicely built" 2.0T gens. Most seem content running high 14's (and some aren't even able to break 100mph, when modded).

Let's be honest. The gencoupe was never comparable to the Z, outside of the fact it kind of looked like one, and was a coupe. Power wise, it's not there. Even with this upgrade, I doubt it will be there.

Posting videos of purely track cars vs daily drivers doesn't really prove anything performance wise.

I know you're trying to validate purchasing a gencoupe, and that's cool, but remember that you are one a forum with mainly Z drivers who could have easily bought gens if they thought they were worth the money...but, we didn't...

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Nguyen128

Yawn... obviously you need to learn how to read. This just became a dic* size contest. Your the epitome of a douche Z driver. So I'll keep it brief and save my breath.

Both videos were pointless. If you didn't catch on to that. Sorry they weren't 1/4 miles

And who are you to say someone made the wrong car purchase by not getting a Z? lollol. I'm not trying to validate my purchase. With the money spent on my 2.0 including car I could have bought a Nismo out right and then some.

It makes me feel better when I pass you guys like you in a Hyundai. But I'd never see you on a track in the first place, unless it's a drag strip on a Friday night, right? But 13.3...? That's sorry. Gens with ported stock turbos run that for far less money. Don't let that ego of yours go too far now.

+1 for you though, yeah your right there aren't many on the forums. I usually stay off it for that reason.

Now lets get this thread back on topic

gaveup

Can you show me 1 genesis 2.0T with a ported turbo that ran better? I've been on gencoupe quite a bit and have not seen many.

I don't recall saying YOU made a mistake by buying your car. Can you point out to me where I did?

And yes, those videos weren't 1/4 mile times, but I would say a 1/4 mile is a good way to judge power. Where as on a track, the driver matter more or at least equal to the performance of a car. I can pull up videos of a pro driver in a civic beating "sports" cars. Does that instantly make the civic a better car?

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Maila87

1/4 time is not about power. It is more about weight/power ratio (which is for MY11 Gen Coupe TERRIBLE in comparison to Z34). But what is more important, how easily it can transform that power to speed. Which is also problem of Hyundai if I compare old Tiburon (in Europe just Coupe) in 2.0i and GEN Coupe 2.0T there is no improvement in 0-62mph times! And we talk about a lot weaker NA 2.0 and FWD car made by Hyundai.

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Maila87

I' m not old old enough to remember 240Z era, but in history articles is described desperation of buyers. Too many buyers and limited production caused, that dealers became stealers. You want second mirror which came from factory with car? You have to pay for it, just like these carpets, stereo and many other parts of car were uninstalled for later install. Just for raising price and profit. Same it was with Jag E-type. Both cars were cheap in its time, so it was bargain.

Tradition is what I don't like about GTR. I want Skyline GTR. I know, that GTR R35 is first worldwide distributed Skyline, but where is Nissan's pride about this legend? Just like Z is legend after decades of great cars with soul and it's own way of philosophy how to make sports car.

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bigsix

^^^ What are the specs for the Honda CR-X KBS ? ^^^ It couldn't quite keep up with 6.2 liters of displacement on the straights.

m4a1mustang

Like global financial markets, this thread has collapsed.

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