Z vs Supra

tvfreakazoid

But is the b58 engine better than the nissan tt v6?
There's a youtuber papadakis racing i know i spelled that name wrong, took the bmw engine apart and said it could handle some good power from its oem hp.
Time will tell how much nissans engine can handle without rebuilding the trans and engine.
And from what I read, bmw down plays their hp. Some say its about 425hp.

But time will tell. Let's wait until the Z comes out and people test these 2 out. It will be interesting


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Spooler

We already have these engines in the Red Sports Q50/Q60 I think they are. Not a sedan guy.

God-Speed

Will just have to wait until its in the showroom & drive one.

THE BULL

In my opinion this will be a lighter/faster RED SPORT.

Being that the Q50/60 never saw a manual transmission we wont know for sure how fast. There has been documentation of some that have swapped however still dealing with some electrical issues.

A q50/60 in auto form would be a close comparison until they revealed that it will have 9 freaking speeds.

7at is already faster off the line, so I suspect acceleration on the Z will be like no other taking advantage of max boost to change gears at those levels to keep going faster.

Weight is similar
Power is a bit higher on the Z
More TQ than the Supra

THE BULL

The decider will be the transmission. I already see the MT falling behind whether you like it or not.

Supra - Z AT - Z MT
First Gear Ratio 5.25 - 5.425 - 3.795
Second Gear Ratio 3.36 - 3.263 - 2.325
Third Gear Ratio 2.17 - 2.250 - 1.625
Fourth Gear Ratio 1.72 - 1.649 - 1.272
Fifth Gear Ratio 1.32 - 1.221 - 1.000
Sixth Gear Ratio 1.00 - 1.000 - 0.795
Seventh Gear Ratio 0.82 - 0.862 - ---
Eighth Gear Ratio 0.64 - 0.713 - ---
Ninth Gear Ratio --- - 0.597 - ---
Final Axle Ratio 3.15 - 3.133 - 3.538

As you can see the Supra and the Auto Z share similarities in gear ratio, in stock form the Auto Z should dominate however upon turbo upgrades that might change or might not.

The ability to have 3 extra gears than the CD trans means you wont have any issues dropping in carrying a gear past max boost since there will be another gear. Since the DCT trans is taking popularity many folks are starting to see the light with fast shifting multiple gearing trans. The Q50 7at has also been found to be a stronger upgrade for auto folks. In my opinion Nissan has never disappointed us in the strength of factory turbocharged components and I dont expect them to drop the ball with this NEW trans.

You'll start seeing fully bolted Zs hurting feelings soon. Can't wait.

FL 4Motion

Z>Supra all day and twice on Sunday.

Manual trans option

Clutch style lsd

Actually a Japanese sports car from a Japanese mark

Replacement parts etc will be cheaper (a new motor for the z should be less $$ than a new bmw I6 motor)

Subjective but the new z looks better and will age better, the Supra looks better in person than pics but it’s styling is too busy for my taste.

Can’t wait to see what the nismo version comes to the table with, that’s the one me and wifey are potentially interested in.

*J*ap***V*et*

I actually like that new Supra. My main concern is reliability tbh. That cost on repairs for the Supra will already be more costly no doubt. If the New Z mods easily there isn't a doubt in my mind it will outsell the competition.

THE BULL

That is really the beauty of Nissan recycling, aftermarket support is already here for the Z and for certain basics there have been parts available for 6 years

The biggest hurdle will be tuning, mainly for the 9 speed since it will be NEW NEW for everyone.

*J*ap***V*et*

If the tuning is there, the Z is going to be a solid choice. It is exactly what enthusiasts needed. Manual and twins. I am honestly more excited for the turbos and I'm seriously considering going back to a manual when this drops.