2020 Supra... first thoughts

Hotrodz · 09-26-2019, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Have heard this from others who know him as well.

Someone suggested that he wasn't even pushing the car at the time - dropped 2 wheels on the grass for whatever reason. It can happen. Sad to see it happen to any car let alone a new one!

Yeah, the video of incident is on YouTube and you are correct as he was not pushing hard and just ran a little wide dropping two wheels and game over. It happens to the best professional drivers where they drop a wheel or two behind the safety car or just cold tires leaving the pits and things just go south sometimes.

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ZCanadian · 09-26-2019, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

Fool already crashes his new 2020 supra on track day. He should be learning to drive a coralla first lol.
https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/cr...cringy-moment/

NOTE that there is a video link in the above (two, actually) - Kaspersky Security denies me access to the second one due to a trojan detected. Just FYI to anyone trying to view it without updated AV software and patched players.

Ventruck · 09-29-2019, 06:54 PM

Yeah his narration can sometimes be excessive, but the guy can drive.

On another note, Adam LZ has a raffle for his Supra. ~600HP via turbo upgrade/mapping/meth. Suspension and wheels being worked on. Would've entered but Lolifornia and I can't house a track car.

ptrinh301 · 09-30-2019, 07:36 PM

Saw a 2020 Supra last night in the parking lot, the car is mid-blue. I was excited, approached it immediately.

The car looks small, properly the same size as our Z.

To be honest, the car is not really a turn head for me. For $60+, I rather spend
my money for a Nismo Z or an used GTR. I know some will say your Z is 11 year olds and outdated, but to me it still sexy af.

I am not a Supra hater, just my 2 cents opinion.

madwi · 09-30-2019, 07:40 PM

2020 Supra... first thoughts

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-01-2019, 03:28 PM

https://jalopnik.com/you-hate-to-see...-se-1838658787

First recall on the Supra. The seatbelts. The era of recall free cars is gone!!

Spooler · 10-01-2019, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

https://jalopnik.com/you-hate-to-see...-se-1838658787

First recall on the Supra. The seatbelts. The era of recall free cars is gone!!

I knew you would be posting this. LOL

Rusty · 10-01-2019, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler

I knew you would be posting this. LOL

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-02-2019, 07:49 AM

https://youtu.be/RyELYngQeoo

Toyota employees cursing out customers. Not acknowledging warranties due to mods. Yet the part is unmodded. This is why the Supra will not sell in the long term.

I was concerned with something the head of the Supra project said in an outdoor interview/conversation. He said the car was designed for mods but was clear that toyota is not backing warranties on modded cars. I found that concerning cuz lots can go wrong not relevant to mods. And right now, toyota cursed and accused one owner of a stock car of mods due to this newfound steering issue. But the car was stock. This car in the video though is modded. So sick of the japanese not accepting when they make a mistake then not want to fix it. Ie CSC failure and the list goes on. Hopefully the Mazda Rx9 comes soon. I'm off the Supra wagon.

Hotrodz · 10-02-2019, 09:32 AM

Unbelievable, obviously BMW and Toyota are making too much money if they can afford to produce vehicles with part they no will fail and then will have to replace them later. Come on Mazda. Mazda has already developed a Mazda 3 tcr race car!

Spooler · 10-02-2019, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I'm off the Supra wagon.

About time.

Rusty · 10-02-2019, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler

About time.

MZ DAIZY · 10-04-2019, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

https://jalopnik.com/you-hate-to-see...-se-1838658787

First recall on the Supra. The seatbelts. The era of recall free cars is gone!!

7 cars “might” have a seatbelt problem and they recall.

4 cars lose steering and the dealers blame the customers.

There is nothing lower than a car “dealer”.

You have to be a special kind of stupid to drive one of these Turds. Just keep it away from me and my family...

Ventruck · 10-04-2019, 07:35 PM

Honoring the warranty has a lot of grey area, and realistically, if they didn't do a tune, or expose what they were doing with the car, dealer/Toyota would've been more inclined to fix this. It is stupid, yes, because an engine tune shouldn't compromise a steering rack. But really, that comes with anything. You buy sports equipment and it rips, stores can turn down a return.

As for the the car itself. Adam LZ has been building his up. Jackie Ding was abusing his quite a bit until the wreck. He even damaged one of his suspension arms (I think he ran off track) and it was easily fixed and running. There has been use and abuse at the 'ring so it's not like they just saw it only on paper and put it into production.

True though, that these steering racks have a history with BMW. MKV forum is citing a number of things it seems, and I guess well short of Toyota standards.

We could always give a pass to a year-one release, and really draw the line as to whether things actually get addressed. If Toyota doesn't, then it's pretty much spelled out they half-assed this from beginning to end. What a waste of time, and I guess lies, claiming they took a good look at every component and reached to say the car was ready to modify.

Employee surely ****ed up, that's for sure. Way to drag the brand down, on top of the loser dealers issuing crazy markups — and equally the loser buyers jumping the gun, although some are translating that to YT money. Holy hell there are probably Corolla salesman smirking with a "you can't have dis" attitude with a Supra sitting in the showroom.

Not looking good. I want it to do good because we can't have enough sports cars, but yeah.

NecioVato · 10-05-2019, 12:54 PM

While I really do like the new Supra - I just want to see how the reliability holds up - since this is a build between 2 manufacturers with one of those not being known for reliability. Also - no way i could justify spending $60k on a car regardless of how 'cool' it is. I mean, give it a few years and that same car will be around mid to low $40s and that might be worth it.

And I definitely want to see if succeed bc if it does - that will justify Nissan and others making sports cars etc. Not to jump off topic but I just wish hatches were popular in the US - bc if you ask me, I would rather have a AWD or even FWD hatch over a crossover any day of the week.

09-29-2019, 06:54 PM	#423 (permalink)
Ventruck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Posts: 782 Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6 Rep Power: 22897	Yeah his narration can sometimes be excessive, but the guy can drive. On another note, Adam LZ has a raffle for his Supra. ~600HP via turbo upgrade/mapping/meth. Suspension and wheels being worked on. Would've entered but Lolifornia and I can't house a track car. Hotrodz, wideglideleon and redondoaveb like this.

09-30-2019, 07:36 PM	#424 (permalink)
ptrinh301 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: orange county Posts: 21 Drives: 2015 370Z Touring Rep Power: 424	2020 Toyota Supra Saw a 2020 Supra last night in the parking lot, the car is mid-blue. I was excited, approached it immediately. The car looks small, properly the same size as our Z. To be honest, the car is not really a turn head for me. For $60+, I rather spend my money for a Nismo Z or an used GTR. I know some will say your Z is 11 year olds and outdated, but to me it still sexy af. I am not a Supra hater, just my 2 cents opinion. wideglideleon, ZCanadian and Falconquey like this.

10-01-2019, 03:28 PM	#426 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	Recall #1 https://jalopnik.com/you-hate-to-see...-se-1838658787 First recall on the Supra. The seatbelts. The era of recall free cars is gone!! Hotrodz likes this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

10-02-2019, 07:49 AM	#429 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	Toyota Supra Steering Rack Failure https://youtu.be/RyELYngQeoo Toyota employees cursing out customers. Not acknowledging warranties due to mods. Yet the part is unmodded. This is why the Supra will not sell in the long term. I was concerned with something the head of the Supra project said in an outdoor interview/conversation. He said the car was designed for mods but was clear that toyota is not backing warranties on modded cars. I found that concerning cuz lots can go wrong not relevant to mods. And right now, toyota cursed and accused one owner of a stock car of mods due to this newfound steering issue. But the car was stock. This car in the video though is modded. So sick of the japanese not accepting when they make a mistake then not want to fix it. Ie CSC failure and the list goes on. Hopefully the Mazda Rx9 comes soon. I'm off the Supra wagon. FL 4Motion, Rusty, Hotrodz and 2 others like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 10-02-2019 at 08:48 AM.

10-02-2019, 09:32 AM	#430 (permalink)
Hotrodz Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684384	Unbelievable, obviously BMW and Toyota are making too much money if they can afford to produce vehicles with part they no will fail and then will have to replace them later. Come on Mazda. Mazda has already developed a Mazda 3 tcr race car! FL 4Motion, UNKNOWN_370, Rusty and 1 others like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

09-30-2019, 07:40 PM	#425 (permalink)
madwi A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: West Michigan Posts: 31,400 Drives: Granma red Z Rep Power: 2684428	2020 Supra... first thoughts

10-04-2019, 07:35 PM	#434 (permalink)
Ventruck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Posts: 782 Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6 Rep Power: 22897	Honoring the warranty has a lot of grey area, and realistically, if they didn't do a tune, or expose what they were doing with the car, dealer/Toyota would've been more inclined to fix this. It is stupid, yes, because an engine tune shouldn't compromise a steering rack. But really, that comes with anything. You buy sports equipment and it rips, stores can turn down a return. As for the the car itself. Adam LZ has been building his up. Jackie Ding was abusing his quite a bit until the wreck. He even damaged one of his suspension arms (I think he ran off track) and it was easily fixed and running. There has been use and abuse at the 'ring so it's not like they just saw it only on paper and put it into production. True though, that these steering racks have a history with BMW. MKV forum is citing a number of things it seems, and I guess well short of Toyota standards. We could always give a pass to a year-one release, and really draw the line as to whether things actually get addressed. If Toyota doesn't, then it's pretty much spelled out they half-assed this from beginning to end. What a waste of time, and I guess lies, claiming they took a good look at every component and reached to say the car was ready to modify. Employee surely ****ed up, that's for sure. Way to drag the brand down, on top of the loser dealers issuing crazy markups — and equally the loser buyers jumping the gun, although some are translating that to YT money. Holy hell there are probably Corolla salesman smirking with a "you can't have dis" attitude with a Supra sitting in the showroom. Not looking good. I want it to do good because we can't have enough sports cars, but yeah. ZCanadian likes this.

10-05-2019, 12:54 PM	#435 (permalink)
NecioVato Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 319 Drives: 2017 Black Nismo Z Rep Power: 19786	While I really do like the new Supra - I just want to see how the reliability holds up - since this is a build between 2 manufacturers with one of those not being known for reliability. Also - no way i could justify spending $60k on a car regardless of how 'cool' it is. I mean, give it a few years and that same car will be around mid to low $40s and that might be worth it. And I definitely want to see if succeed bc if it does - that will justify Nissan and others making sports cars etc. Not to jump off topic but I just wish hatches were popular in the US - bc if you ask me, I would rather have a AWD or even FWD hatch over a crossover any day of the week. UNKNOWN_370 and ZCanadian like this.

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