C8 mid-engine corvette. GM loves their people.

Hotrodz · 11-25-2019, 05:13 PM

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Yeah, if you are always waiting for the better car to buy and the better woman to date, you'll die an unhappy virgin!

Life's too short not to indulge yourself a little. Just know your spending limits (goes for car and wife! LOL).

And with both it is cheaper to keep her! Ask me how I know, LMAO!

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FL 4Motion · 11-26-2019, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

And with both it is cheaper to keep her! Ask me how I know, LMAO!

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One of the best ways to build wealth is marriage. One set of bills, two incomes and financial stability, can survive on one income temporarily w/o issue if one partner has a setback, save and invest more etc.

But, like all things in life, with greater reward comes greater risk b/c divorce is one of the biggest financial setbacks you can face.

Choose your partner wisely.

Or, as my dad told me growing up, never marry the first hot piece of a$$ that gives you a good lay.

Hotrodz · 11-26-2019, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

One of the best ways to build wealth is marriage. One set of bills, two incomes and financial stability, can survive on one income temporarily w/o issue if one partner has a setback, save and invest more etc.

But, like all things in life, with greater reward comes greater risk b/c divorce is one of the biggest financial setbacks you can face.

Choose your partner wisely.

Or, as my dad told me growing up, never marry the first hot piece of a$$ that gives you a good lay.

Great advise and even with doing as you said it sometimes doesn't work out. My first and only other wife were married for 18 years and dated for five year before that. We have two fantastic kids and yes it set me back but I am doing all right now some 18 years later and wife number two and I are 16 years strong. Anyway, my twist on your dad advise is don't marry the first one that gives you a blow job because most guys literally loose their minds when that happens!!!

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Rusty · 11-26-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

Great advise and even with doing as you said it sometimes doesn't work out. My first and only other wife were married for 18 years and dated for five year before that. We have two fantastic kids and yes it set me back but I am doing all right now some 18 years later and wife number two and I are 16 years strong. Anyway, my twist on your dad advise is don't marry the first one that gives you a blow job because most guys literally loose their minds when that happens!!!

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I shopped around for both wife's.

JARblue · 11-26-2019, 08:23 AM

My divorce cost me $3K for a lawyer. I kept the house and the Z. And I find myself with more available cash than ever before. Best case scenario lol

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-26-2019, 04:31 PM

https://jalopnik.com/what-we-know-ab...rve-1839885240

Approximately 900hp
85kw hybrid engine producing about 114hp of that total number and raising torque to a STUPIDLy HiGh 880lbs tq...

Can you imagine that number as stock torque?

FL 4Motion · 11-27-2019, 02:21 AM

The more I see vid and pics of the c8, the less I like it. Just watched motorweek and they did a review of an orange vert and I just don’t really like it, I mean, it’s not bad, but I’m not tempted. The performance is great, but at the end of the day it’s just a vette and I’ve never really cared for them.

Opposite reaction to the new Supra, I started off meh, and now the more I see it and especially after seeing it in person, I like it more now. Good to have choices.

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-27-2019, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

The more I see vid and pics of the c8, the less I like it. Just watched motorweek and they did a review of an orange vert and I just don’t really like it, I mean, it’s not bad, but I’m not tempted. The performance is great, but at the end of the day it’s just a vette and I’ve never really cared for them.

Opposite reaction to the new Supra, I started off meh, and now the more I see it and especially after seeing it in person, I like it more now. Good to have choices.

Reasons why ENTHUSIASTS buy cars:

1. Performance/capabilities
2. Visceral experience
3. Feeling connected to the vehicle
4. Mod-ability/aftermarket support
5. As a track toy
6. As a collector item
7. As a sense of nostalgia.
Looks play a part but are usually secondary. We often look at body kits or body altering parts to make a decently nice car hot.

Why Consumers buy CARS!
1. Appearance/image/ Get Noticed
2. Practicality/Gas mileage
3. Insurance cost.
4. Price

Until you see one in person, opinions are seriously hindered. It's like the GTR. In a picture. It looks like the world's most expensive box.
In person... it's hot.

But then you have the case of first world envy...
The vette is a nice car... Not everyone will be able to afford one. Which usually also affects most peoples perception of a vehicle...

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-27-2019, 01:44 PM

https://jalopnik.com/please-leave-th...one-1840056210

So GM is talking smack about making a ev vette. So jalopnik comes with the idea of throwing the camaro under the bus to compete with the mustang e shytbox. Fvckin idiots. I'm hoping GM leaves the Camaro alone and continues with its legacy and not MIMIC ford for once!!

FL 4Motion · 11-28-2019, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Reasons why ENTHUSIASTS buy cars:

1. Performance/capabilities
2. Visceral experience
3. Feeling connected to the vehicle
4. Mod-ability/aftermarket support
5. As a track toy
6. As a collector item
7. As a sense of nostalgia.
Looks play a part but are usually secondary. We often look at body kits or body altering parts to make a decently nice car hot.

Why Consumers buy CARS!
1. Appearance/image/ Get Noticed
2. Practicality/Gas mileage
3. Insurance cost.
4. Price

Until you see one in person, opinions are seriously hindered. It's like the GTR. In a picture. It looks like the world's most expensive box.
In person... it's hot.

But then you have the case of first world envy...
The vette is a nice car... Not everyone will be able to afford one. Which usually also affects most peoples perception of a vehicle...

Good points, but I would add #8 to the enthusiast’s list: passion for a particular brand or model, after all, zdayz wouldn’t exist without that, or any car/make specific forum for that matter.

There’s a difference between fan and fanboy though, a fan can still see and accept the flaws in their preferred model/make, a fanboy is blinded by irrational emotion.

I always reserve final judgment on a cars looks until I see it in person, that’s why I like the Supra more now that I’ve seen one in the flesh vs before.

As far as looks, no real enthusiast ever said, “this car is fvckin ugly as sin, but it’s performance is so good, I’ll overlook it nd spend my money anyway, exception being a strictly track/race car, but for a road going or semi daily/track car looks always matter, not exclusively but they factor in

Now, looks for image or getting noticed, I agree with you there, that’s not an enthusiast thing.

I liked the way the gtr looked in pictures from the get go, to me it looked purposeful and aggressive in a technological way. After owning one and staring at it for a couple years, that feeling only grew, I never would have got one if it didn’t light my fire so to speak.

FL 4Motion · 11-28-2019, 02:27 AM

Almost forgot, as far as adding body kits/exterior mods to make a car look better, excluding track focused exterior mods, I’ve never been into that, if it’s not good enough looks wise to me the way it comes from the factory, then I’m not putting $$ into it to make it look better. The one caveat to that would be wheels, but beyond that, I’m not buying a vehicle and changing bumpers etc bc I never liked the stock stuff as is.

Example, for me, the only good looking camaro is the zl1 1le, it’s the only one worth buying imo, (not just looks but performance is awesome), also I’m of the mindset you always buy the best top of he line model and if you can’t afford it, wait and save till you can.

I think the camaros, 5th and 6th gen actually look better in pics, In real life to me, again my opinion, they look too “plasticy” and cheap. Again that’s my opinion, it shouldn’t affect anyone else’s love for a ‘maro.

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-30-2019, 02:44 PM

https://www.motor1.com/news/385310/g...base-corvette/

Chevy claims that they're losing money on any vette less than 80k.
And that they will have to incrementally raise prices.
This car is a gift to enthusiasts...
It's a historical feat and the most iconic sports car in a very long time. If this car cant bring enthusiasm back to automobiles? Nothing will.

FL 4Motion · 12-02-2019, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

https://www.motor1.com/news/385310/g...base-corvette/

Chevy claims that they're losing money on any vette less than 80k.
And that they will have to incrementally raise prices.
This car is a gift to enthusiasts...
It's a historical feat and the most iconic sports car in a very long time. If this car cant bring enthusiasm back to automobiles? Nothing will.

I’m slightly skeptical of the losing money claim, but then again, probably 1/2 c8s sold will be $80k or above. If they run the c8 chassis for a good long while with updates along the way, the cost per vehicle to build will come down and the profit per car will increase. Sh1t, Nissan must be making bank on the 12 z cars they sell per year by this point.

I hope Chevy doesn’t fall into the trap Nissan did with the gtr. At under 100k, the gtr was a great performance value proposition (it still would be). At over 100k, it stopped making sense anymore and it hurt even more that it is ancient and hasn’t kept up with the competition. Nissan tried to justify the yearly price increases with more and more “luxury” upgrades but at the end of the day, it’s still a Nissan that costs over $100k.

Chevy may run into this as well, “it’s just a Chevy ‘vette at the end of the day” attitude could kill sales if it gets too pricey.

The vette loyalists mostly wont be able to afford over $100k cars and the car enthusiasts who comfortably can, most if they do get one, it would be for a track car, aka second or third or fourth car, bc they’ll drive something “nicer” as a daily. That won’t be enough to prop up sales.

If it gets too expensive, the vette could become the perfect lightly used second or third owner used sports car, kinda the way the gtr has gone.

This vette, (nor any other sports car for that matter), isn’t going to save sports cars or enthusiast cars in general until it goes full electric and/or autonomous and the non automotive media creams themselves all over it just like they do every time a new Tesla gets unveiled, or even hinted at.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-10-2019, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

I’m slightly skeptical of the losing money claim, but then again, probably 1/2 c8s sold will be $80k or above. If they run the c8 chassis for a good long while with updates along the way, the cost per vehicle to build will come down and the profit per car will increase. Sh1t, Nissan must be making bank on the 12 z cars they sell per year by this point.

I hope Chevy doesn’t fall into the trap Nissan did with the gtr. At under 100k, the gtr was a great performance value proposition (it still would be). At over 100k, it stopped making sense anymore and it hurt even more that it is ancient and hasn’t kept up with the competition. Nissan tried to justify the yearly price increases with more and more “luxury” upgrades but at the end of the day, it’s still a Nissan that costs over $100k.

Chevy may run into this as well, “it’s just a Chevy ‘vette at the end of the day” attitude could kill sales if it gets too pricey.

The vette loyalists mostly wont be able to afford over $100k cars and the car enthusiasts who comfortably can, most if they do get one, it would be for a track car, aka second or third or fourth car, bc they’ll drive something “nicer” as a daily. That won’t be enough to prop up sales.

If it gets too expensive, the vette could become the perfect lightly used second or third owner used sports car, kinda the way the gtr has gone.

This vette, (nor any other sports car for that matter), isn’t going to save sports cars or enthusiast cars in general until it goes full electric and/or autonomous and the non automotive media creams themselves all over it just like they do every time a new Tesla gets unveiled, or even hinted at.

As I thought about it. I too thought. I hope they're not planning on selling this car for 80k. Probably a bunch of idiots at the dealer ordering theres were saying. "This car is so hot, I'd easily pay 80k", when in fact you know they wouldn't. But chevy probably got that feedback and is testing the waters with this statement.

Spooler · 12-02-2019, 03:39 PM

Now this is badasss...

https://www.motor1.com/news/385609/2...e-c8-widebody/

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Spec sheet documents of Z06 https://jalopnik.com/what-we-know-ab...rve-1839885240 Approximately 900hp 85kw hybrid engine producing about 114hp of that total number and raising torque to a STUPIDLy HiGh 880lbs tq... Can you imagine that number as stock torque? __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

11-27-2019, 01:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Jalopnik are idiots!!! https://jalopnik.com/please-leave-th...one-1840056210 So GM is talking smack about making a ev vette. So jalopnik comes with the idea of throwing the camaro under the bus to compete with the mustang e shytbox. Fvckin idiots. I'm hoping GM leaves the Camaro alone and continues with its legacy and not MIMIC ford for once!! __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

11-28-2019, 02:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701616	Almost forgot, as far as adding body kits/exterior mods to make a car look better, excluding track focused exterior mods, I’ve never been into that, if it’s not good enough looks wise to me the way it comes from the factory, then I’m not putting $$ into it to make it look better. The one caveat to that would be wheels, but beyond that, I’m not buying a vehicle and changing bumpers etc bc I never liked the stock stuff as is. Example, for me, the only good looking camaro is the zl1 1le, it’s the only one worth buying imo, (not just looks but performance is awesome), also I’m of the mindset you always buy the best top of he line model and if you can’t afford it, wait and save till you can. I think the camaros, 5th and 6th gen actually look better in pics, In real life to me, again my opinion, they look too “plasticy” and cheap. Again that’s my opinion, it shouldn’t affect anyone else’s love for a ‘maro. Last edited by FL 4Motion; 11-28-2019 at 02:38 AM.

11-30-2019, 02:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	https://www.motor1.com/news/385310/g...base-corvette/ Chevy claims that they're losing money on any vette less than 80k. And that they will have to incrementally raise prices. This car is a gift to enthusiasts... It's a historical feat and the most iconic sports car in a very long time. If this car cant bring enthusiasm back to automobiles? Nothing will. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

11-27-2019, 02:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701616	The more I see vid and pics of the c8, the less I like it. Just watched motorweek and they did a review of an orange vert and I just don’t really like it, I mean, it’s not bad, but I’m not tempted. The performance is great, but at the end of the day it’s just a vette and I’ve never really cared for them. Opposite reaction to the new Supra, I started off meh, and now the more I see it and especially after seeing it in person, I like it more now. Good to have choices.

12-02-2019, 03:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 14,089 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684394	Now this is badasss... https://www.motor1.com/news/385609/2...e-c8-widebody/

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