Pure Enthusiast Cars: What's your list?

cooltoy · 11-30-2017, 01:09 PM

Ford RS200

KCZ · 11-30-2017, 01:15 PM

Anything Lotus.

alcheng · 11-30-2017, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by babyzilla

I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts. There aren't a lot of options out there for fun/fast manual cars that aren't enhanced with electronics. Of course, all cars have an ECU and are computerized to a certain extent. I know a lot of people love teslas, hyrbid super cars, and these German beasts like the M3 which are practically rolling computers. I know there are people out there like me who enjoy the appeal of raw sports cars. Little to no features, no drive settings; just get in and go. I'm not wondering how they compare with the Z, rather what other options are there? New/used doesn't matter. As long as it's manual. For example, the new corvettes are definitely out, but the c6 and older fit the criteria. Dodge vipers are an excellent choice as well. What's your list?

any Prius

Spoiler · 11-30-2017, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

any Prius

Alright now your talkin’

alcheng · 11-30-2017, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoiler

Alright now your talkin’

Spoiler · 11-30-2017, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by alcheng

That’s right, this sweet “Thug Life” Prius is worthy of two licks...

Here’s a couple more shots of it...

babyzilla · 12-01-2017, 09:21 AM

Yeah, I think this thread was a fail...

ZCanadian · 12-01-2017, 12:03 PM

Alfa 4C, hands down. Not really an automatic, but a robotized twin-clutch manual. That's a bit of a stretch for your qualification, I know. But the way that car makes you feel every time you are behind the wheel, or even just looking at it, means that it should qualify. To me, anyway. Your mileage may vary.

Other than that, you won't find a more raw, non-assisted drive out there unless you go Ariel or Caterham. Lotus would be a close second to the Alfa, if you are into driving Tuperware.

If you must have the 3rd pedal in a basic driver's car, then the MX-5 Miata (oldest generation seems to be the favourite amongst pure enthusiasts, but you have to live with a pretty low output engine). Since we're on the subject of older models, a Honda S2000 is a good bet, if you don't mind continually flogging the engine to redline to get it to move at all. Honda, who are normally Jedi Masters of the torque band in small engines, really left all the grunt until the top end of the revs there from what I understand.

Almost anything modern is really a set of computers between you and the car. The new Mustang and Camaro are case in point. Doesn't mean you cannot have a ball with them though.

I hear that the Fiat 500 Abarth is a blast for the money. I just don't cotton to the looks.

babyzilla · 12-01-2017, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

Alfa 4C, hands down. Not really an automatic, but a robotized twin-clutch manual. That's a bit of a stretch for your qualification, I know. But the way that car makes you feel every time you are behind the wheel, or even just looking at it, means that it should qualify. To me, anyway. Your mileage may vary.

Other than that, you won't find a more raw, non-assisted drive out there unless you go Ariel or Caterham. Lotus would be a close second to the Alfa, if you are into driving Tuperware.

If you must have the 3rd pedal in a basic driver's car, then the MX-5 Miata (oldest generation seems to be the favourite amongst pure enthusiasts, but you have to live with a pretty low output engine). Since we're on the subject of older models, a Honda S2000 is a good bet, if you don't mind continually flogging the engine to redline to get it to move at all. Honda, who are normally Jedi Masters of the torque band in small engines, really left all the grunt until the top end of the revs there from what I understand.

Almost anything modern is really a set of computers between you and the car. The new Mustang and Camaro are case in point. Doesn't mean you cannot have a ball with them though.

I hear that the Fiat 500 Abarth is a blast for the money. I just don't cotton to the looks.

Thank you. This is what I'm looking for. I LOLd at your Tupperware comment. You bring up great points about the miata and s2000. Again...the 370z always comes up for being well-rounded within an affordable range. I'm just trying to pick people's brains for other viable options and the 370z always keeps coming up. A dodge viper would be nice too, but not sure how economical/ practical that is.

ZCanadian · 12-01-2017, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by babyzilla

Thank you. This is what I'm looking for. I LOLd at your Tupperware comment. You bring up great points about the miata and s2000. Again...the 370z always comes up for being well-rounded within an affordable range. I'm just trying to pick people's brains for other viable options and the 370z always keeps coming up. A dodge viper would be nice too, but not sure how economical/ practical that is.

A pure driver's car should in no way be practical! If it is, then it's a GT car.

Economical, perhaps. That would be the difference between a Miata and an old Alfa Spider. Both will generate a huge smile, but the latter might cost you a lot in maintenance.

It should, on occasion, scare the bejesus out of you, and make you want to stretch every 2-mile drive a 2-hour adventure.
It should drive you wild with rage in traffic or on straight, flat roads.

And it should probably have this on the window:

Larso1 · 12-01-2017, 04:58 PM

And let's not forget the Datsun 2000 sports car; the Triumph TR8 w/ GM 215ci. alum. V8; the Jaguar XK120, XK140 and XK150 sports cars; also the Jag XKE of course; the MGC w/ Healey 6cyl.; the Morgan Plus 8 with the GM 215ci. alum. V8; the Sunbeam Tiger w/ Ford 260ci. or 289ci. V8........ to name a few more.

Airwilf · 12-01-2017, 08:56 PM

I did have a 73 Datsun 240Z, after my 71 TR6, but one of my coworkers at the same base had a sweet blue Volvo P1800E. Very rare these days. There's a guy in New York state I believe who has turned over 2,000, 000 miles on his P1800. Volvo wants to buy it from him , but he won't sell. He's had it written up in several newspaper s & various car magazines. To think I got rid of my 2015 Mazda Miata GT with 7400 miles on it .....................
I'm happy with my Z

Raeshlavik · 12-03-2017, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ZCanadian

I hear that the Fiat 500 Abarth is a blast for the money. I just don't cotton to the looks.

The 500 Abarth is indeed as close as you can get to street legal go-kart, and is really just a machine designed to destroy cheap tires... And yes, it's as ugly as sin.

I love mine though; it's this little harmless econobox looking thing that weighs just shy of 2000 pounds, generates 225+ horses, and sounds amazing for a 4-pot motor smaller than a 2-liter of soda.

DLSTR · 12-04-2017, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Raeshlavik

The 500 Abarth is indeed as close as you can get to street legal go-kart, and is really just a machine designed to destroy cheap tires... And yes, it's as ugly as sin.

I love mine though; it's this little harmless econobox looking thing that weighs just shy of 2000 pounds, generates 225+ horses, and sounds amazing for a 4-pot motor smaller than a 2-liter of soda.

My Abarth was simply superb machine! I bought this one new in 2009. I took this picture with a very basic Samsung non smart phone camera. It was so good the pic was chosen for the 2010 Abarthforum.de calendar here in Germany. I was so proud LOL

Calg37USMC · 12-01-2017, 11:28 PM

93-94 Nissan Sentra SE-R
Nissan pulsar GTi-R

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ZCanadian A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 1,061 Drives: 2013 370Z Rep Power: 60274	Alfa 4C, hands down. Not really an automatic, but a robotized twin-clutch manual. That's a bit of a stretch for your qualification, I know. But the way that car makes you feel every time you are behind the wheel, or even just looking at it, means that it should qualify. To me, anyway. Your mileage may vary. Other than that, you won't find a more raw, non-assisted drive out there unless you go Ariel or Caterham. Lotus would be a close second to the Alfa, if you are into driving Tuperware. If you must have the 3rd pedal in a basic driver's car, then the MX-5 Miata (oldest generation seems to be the favourite amongst pure enthusiasts, but you have to live with a pretty low output engine). Since we're on the subject of older models, a Honda S2000 is a good bet, if you don't mind continually flogging the engine to redline to get it to move at all. Honda, who are normally Jedi Masters of the torque band in small engines, really left all the grunt until the top end of the revs there from what I understand. Almost anything modern is really a set of computers between you and the car. The new Mustang and Camaro are case in point. Doesn't mean you cannot have a ball with them though. I hear that the Fiat 500 Abarth is a blast for the money. I just don't cotton to the looks. UNKNOWN_370 likes this.

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Larso1 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Pueblo CO Posts: 98 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z T M6 Rep Power: 10	And let's not forget the Datsun 2000 sports car; the Triumph TR8 w/ GM 215ci. alum. V8; the Jaguar XK120, XK140 and XK150 sports cars; also the Jag XKE of course; the MGC w/ Healey 6cyl.; the Morgan Plus 8 with the GM 215ci. alum. V8; the Sunbeam Tiger w/ Ford 260ci. or 289ci. V8........ to name a few more. babyzilla likes this. Last edited by Larso1; 12-02-2017 at 08:14 PM.

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Airwilf Base Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Niagara Region Ontario Posts: 166 Drives: 18 370Z Red 6M Rep Power: 8	I did have a 73 Datsun 240Z, after my 71 TR6, but one of my coworkers at the same base had a sweet blue Volvo P1800E. Very rare these days. There's a guy in New York state I believe who has turned over 2,000, 000 miles on his P1800. Volvo wants to buy it from him , but he won't sell. He's had it written up in several newspaper s & various car magazines. To think I got rid of my 2015 Mazda Miata GT with 7400 miles on it ..................... I'm happy with my Z sunkist350z and babyzilla like this. __________________ 2018 Solid Red, 6MT, Touring Sport Coupe Last edited by Airwilf; 12-01-2017 at 08:57 PM. Reason: typo

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