Kia Stinger.... Theyre passing Nissan.

CRiZO

After driving turbos most of my life, the Z took a long time to get used to. Totally different power delivery. I miss it sometimes, even the new Civic (turbo) feels punchier around town.

The Kia dealership I drive by often has like a dozen of them sitting out front, and made me realize I've yet to see one on the road.

I'm guessing we'll start to see a lot in a couple years when you can buy one for 20k.

b15

Looks like they barely sell 1200 a month. Brand panache matters in this price point. It's why Infiniti/Lexus exists! And now Hyundai's own Genesis.

I had a 3.0TT Q50 loaner and the mid-range in that car is great. I love revving my 3.7 but everyday driving g having all that torque so low was great. There are Q50 jb4 guys with down pipes showing +75-100wtq in the mid-range with it coming on around 2k rpm. Crazy!

UNKNOWN_370

The Kia is 3900 lbs but feels as light on its feet as the red sport and gets more feedback through the steering wheel, so you know what the tires are doing in the kia... not the Infiniti. The Kia engine murders the 3.7 and has progressive torque till max boost when you finally hit the pop. The red sport is more like an NA giving you a particular amount of sudden torque in more RPM points than the Kia. But that said. The Q red sport transmission is an abomination. The Kia isn't. It's snappy and responsive so it doesn't muddle the sensations of its excellent engine.

The Kia stinger doesn't eclipse the Q but people that value different aspects of performance would lean toward one or the other if they can get past Kia BIAS.

But honestly. I don't think the q50 will survive the G70.
With the weight reduction and even more aggressive transmission tuning? The current Kia transmission is already way better. A sportier tune in the G can only make this car a threat. Honestly. The only car really standing far ahead In this pack is the Alfa Giulia. N their price point rivals Kia in the Ti Sport. U want a car that puts Kia, Infiniti and even BMW to shame???? The Giulia, hands down. Nothing drives like it. Genesis is gonna have to work miracles to get next to the Giulia. Same with the infinit.

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b15

Lol. Thanks for the afternoon amusement.

Ian B

I would not worry about Kia at all. They are higher to insure, tend to get totalled in most accidents and at the end, they will have a lower resale value than Nissan any day.

Ian B

UNKNOWN_370

I just looked at the bread and butter cars IN MY SALES REGION..

A 2016 Kia optima ex with 26,000 miles is 18k
A turbo ex is valued much more than a SL

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=206792006

A 2016 Nissan Altima SL with 30,000 miles is $14k
A 3.5 sl is about $16k

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/invent...ting=180152459

Where u get all these statistics u talking...
If you state it... prove it otherwise u talking trash

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You linked two cars in different states that are 500+ miles apart. The Altima has 11k miles more than the Optima, for sale at a po-dunk dealer, on the market for 200+ days and was a rental. Good job

Might want to work on your "statistics"

UNKNOWN_370

First off. I used my region cuz all cars of the region cost the same. Second. I used 2 cars that are selling with the same specs. I gave you average costs in writing between the vast models over a whole region. Then I showed u two co.parable cars.

One is CPO so there a $1,200 discrepency on that.
Mileage, 9,000 miles difference on 2016 is inevitably 1,000, so since the region sells the same and both these cars are same specd for their brand. They are valued about the same.

I can go digging in the internet on lower trim models that would be easier. But Mississippi is 400 miles from here not over 500. N it's part of our networking region.

Here's the low end models same area if it makes u happy. I chose loaded cuz they are a truer estimate of depreciation. There's more wiggle room on base vehicles.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used...ting=203658282


https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used...ting=210913854


As you can see the k ia is selling slowly but the Altima is new on the lot. That's the $1000 discrepency. On average if you look. Loaded Kia optima's selling about $2grand higher than Altima n base cars about the same.


Brand perception is part of the same formula why people are classiest and racist. They have to put a shallow mark on a person or product or whatever. People won't test drive a car. They just say, it's a Kia, it's gotta suck. N stick by their guns with no proof except 15 year old statistics n he said, she said stories.

People are online not experiencing life but giving an opinion on everything they DON'T DO...

INFUCKINCREDIBLE

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b15

Ok there boss. At the end of they day your comparison sucked. Rental Altima vs CPO Optima. Maybe down South it doesn't matter but up here 500miles makes a big difference in COL and prices. Anyone with half a brain realizes this isn't equal, but hey I'm just elitist and racist I guess. Just own it and stop with these idiotic posts.

CRiZO

I don't understand why everyone here is so touchy.

snakebite

In case you haven't noticed, it's a worldwide phenomenon and epidemic in our species.

I don't think it's your fault.

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b15

Because

Ian B

That’s why I did not respond to the person who quoted me. Life is too short to waste arguing in a forum.

Ian B

ZCanadian

Imagine being able to go back in time today and sit down with Einstein, DaVinci, or Ben Franklin, and explain: “I hold in my hand a device that can put me in contact with 2/3 of the population of the planet, and which gives me instantaneous access to the entire compendium of knowledge of all mankind from the dawn of history to a few seconds ago. I use it to look at cute cat videos and get into arguments with people I don’t know.”

Peace.

Zoren 370

Any more around?

Kia has improved a lot in terms of performance and quality.
But would I buy one for 50K? Certainly not.
Most people are brand conscious specially with cars.

My chance of picking up a girl is higher with my Z than with the Kia stinger!
So in my books my Z still wins!

Case dismissed? Lol

But thank you for a nice review on the Stinger.
Though I’ll stick with my muscle car and Z.