Sacramento Meets/Chat

ZForce · 11-26-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

I am being lazy -- where and when is the meet?

Donald, there are two meets in the next few weeks. Shriners on 12/14 and another at Arden Fair on 12/8.

onzedge · 11-26-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce

Donald, there are two meets in the next few weeks. Shriners on 12/14 and another at Arden Fair on 12/8.

Curtis -- what's the story on the Arden Fair meet?

ZForce · 11-26-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech

that's actually really good price for a Stillen oil cooler! but I would have to say the kids that I purchased is still a better deal. I paid about $300 for the kit with the 24 Row cooler and sandwich plate. the only thing that I would say would be missing would be the name brand. on the hard canyon run that we had a couple weeks ago the car never got over 220 degrees. save your money and go with the kit that isn't as expensive but still does the same job.

So when did you start buying kids? Side job...you pimp

Reputable companies have already taken the headaches out piecing together your oil cooler kid. That is why they run more $$. Piece of mind ...imo

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Originally Posted by Cbtech

I didn't want to deal with the braided lines on that particular kit so I went with the push fittings. unfortunately something went bad with a push fitting and I had a couple of leaks. So myotor made a custom pair of hydraulic hose lines and fittings that prevent it from leaking now. I'm sure if I went with the braided lines it might have been a different story.

Was it really worth the savings now that you had to dinker with it to work without leaks.

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Originally Posted by Tempestz

So go with braided lines, and get someone to put the fittings on? That sounds like a good deal to me

Just another reason to go name brand.

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Originally Posted by myotorsports

BTW, finished my cooler install. Went with the RPW 48 row for the engine and 24 for the trans... fittings up. Wow runs right on the plate's thermostat @ 185... Pushed it a couple of times, holds steady. Went with Amsoil Premium (7 qts!), the car seems much happier now

Our oil temp gauge is off 10 degrees. A matter of where Nissan located the thermostat (it's positioned where the oil leaves the crank case) when they should have positioned it before entering the crankcase). In a sense after the oil cooler and before it enters the crank case. Confirmed by Z1 Motorsports and documented on a thread somewhere.

So ...when the oil temp gauge reads 220 its actually 230. And 260 is limp mode. Minimal oil temp should be between 190 -210.

myotorsports · 11-26-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ValidusVentus

Hmmm, would that even matter? the oil is being pumped to the same height in the end. Perhaps you would get better flow through it if the outlet was at the top and the inlet at the bottom due to convection in the oil?

Edit: I take convection idea back, after thinking about it a bit more... it doesnt actually make any sense and wouldnt work that way lol

As you know VV heat rises. Old school radiators used to have the outlet on top and the inlet on the bottom- the hotter coolant left the engine and was cooled as it made its way down the core. I'm sure the same principle would apply to an oil cooler. Mounting it sideways would make the most of this effect as well, if the core were plumbed this way.

ZForce · 11-26-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

Curtis -- what's the story on the Arden Fair meet?

TeamLoveHate is having a charity drive (or drive by and drop off) Check FB, Alan has it posted on ZONC group.

myotorsports · 11-26-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce

Our oil temp gauge is off 10 degrees. A matter of where Nissan located the thermostat (it's positioned where the oil leaves the crank case) when they should have positioned it before entering the crankcase). In a sense after the oil cooler and before it enters the crank case. Confirmed by Z1 Motorsports and documented on a thread somewhere.

So ...when the oil temp gauge reads 220 its actually 230. And 260 is limp mode. Minimal oil temp should be between 190 -210.

Thanks for the insightful info ZF, I would take that to mean my oil temps are right where they should be... You know how hot it gets here in summer!!!

ValidusVentus · 11-26-2013, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by myotorsports

Sup Nate, Thx! The temps ran right on the thermo when cruising @ 60mph last night. Might just be because it's new. I have some other theories about that as well, since Cb was having the same issue with temps. IMHO it should run right on the thermostat if the cooler has enough capacity and the thermo is working correctly- just like the cooling system. BTW, who makes bushings? I really like urethane and I've installed Energy Suspension on everything else I drive... They work great! I like suspension mods... Sorry about the crappy pic...

Whats up man, I read over this earlier and then went to doing something else and completely forgot. Yeah definitely after hearing this I need to take a look at my thermo plate or just give Stillen a call and see if they can hook me up for cheap or something. The bushings I am looking at are SPL also need to get a set of front upper arms from them soon. They just(FINALLY) started making them and I am not sure how long they will be in production, you just never know. I have seen some specific bushings for sale on their site and some advertised as part of their suspension products but i want to call them and see what they can do as far as just selling me the whole set [of bushings] at once or something. At the moment the only aftermarket "bushing" I have is the tranny mount. Got the Z1 poly mount and love it. Much better shifter feel than it was b4 and you can hear the tranny gear whine more, especially in the lower gears (which may have something to do with how I (didn't) break in my tranny at all really - had to replace it due to 5th gear grind.)

ValidusVentus · 11-26-2013, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by myotorsports

As you know VV heat rises. Old school radiators used to have the outlet on top and the inlet on the bottom- the hotter coolant left the engine and was cooled as it made its way down the core. I'm sure the same principle would apply to an oil cooler. Mounting it sideways would make the most of this effect as well, if the core were plumbed this way.

yeah I was thinking backwards ... but I think you were also thinking backwards when you typed that?? The outlet would be for the "cooler coolant" yes? and hence, at the bottom.

1st · 11-26-2013, 08:30 PM

Wow where gonna be rollin deep. Can't wait to see the public's faces.

myotorsports · 11-26-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ValidusVentus

yeah I was thinking backwards ... but I think you were also thinking backwards when you typed that?? The outlet would be for the "cooler coolant" yes? and hence, at the bottom.

Inlet and outlet referring to the pump involved... you are referring to in and out of cooler... all good!

SuperDave · 11-26-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce

Donald, there are two meets in the next few weeks. Shriners on 12/14 and another at Arden Fair on 12/8.

Shriners is on the 8th. 8am meet at the pancake place. See first post on first page.

ValidusVentus · 11-26-2013, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperDave

Shriners is on the 8th. 8am meet a the pancake place. See first post on first page.

Looking forward to this, except the part where I get up at 6am on the weekend lol

...but I will do this for car related events, track days, sportscar races... pancake places...

Tempestz · 11-27-2013, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by myotorsports

Sup Nate, Thx! The temps ran right on the thermo when cruising @ 60mph last night. Might just be because it's new. I have some other theories about that as well, since Cb was having the same issue with temps. IMHO it should run right on the thermostat if the cooler has enough capacity and the thermo is working correctly- just like the cooling system. BTW, who makes bushings? I really like urethane and I've installed Energy Suspension on everything else I drive... They work great! I like suspension mods... Sorry about the crappy pic...

Myoto, I dont think your second question about the bushings was ever answered. but i changed all mine to whiteline bushings in my 350Z and loved it. they are polyurethane and affordable. Z1 sells all of them for our cars.

And I am selling all the components of my exhaust, y pipe and midpie are going to Dave, and the little B**** that claimed my axle back never answered his phone today. so now im driving around like a retard with ridiculously loud exhaust...made my head hurt after driving an hour with no exhaust. i will be picking up my nismo exhaust tomorrow after Dave and I get his new exhaust and springs installed.

his car is going to sound SICK!! it it really woke up my car. but troubled times ask for parts to be sold...

onzedge · 11-27-2013, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ZForce

TeamLoveHate is having a charity drive (or drive by and drop off) Check FB, Alan has it posted on ZONC group.

Cbtech · 11-27-2013, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ZForce

Reputable companies have already taken the headaches out piecing together your oil cooler kid. That is why they run more $$. Piece of mind ...imo

Z1, Stillen and other companies didn't reinvent the wheel they just put their name on it and ran the price up just because they are who they are. Oil coolers have been around much longer than Z1, Stillen or the other companies. The Kit i bought WAS a complete kit I just chose an easier route as far as the hoses were concerned.

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Originally Posted by Cbtech

I didn't want to deal with the braided lines on that particular kit so I went with the push fittings. unfortunately something went bad with a push fitting and I had a couple of leaks. So myotor made a custom pair of hydraulic hose lines and fittings that prevent it from leaking now. I'm sure if I went with the braided lines it might have been a different story.

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Originally Posted by ZForce

Was it really worth the savings now that you had to dinker with it to work without leaks.

Had I blown a line and had a major clean up or even worse a blown motor - No it wouldnt have been worth it. but as i admitted it was my lack of tools that created some of the leaks not the equipment. AND im sure if the name brand sshit blew, id still be out a motor since getting them to pay for the failure would be an act of congress.

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Originally Posted by Tempestz

So go with braided lines, and get someone to put the fittings on? That sounds like a good deal to me

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Originally Posted by ZForce

Just another reason to go name brand.

Sorry Curtis, respectfully, ℱuck that. Again buying over priced shit just because of a brand name for something that is not unique to its inventor is opulent ignorance. Ill give you an example:

I loved the way the Short tail exhaust sounded when i first heard it. When I went to go to AAM (the only company at the time making them) to price them out they were $429

2 pipes and a pair of tips for $429??? Retarded. So i went to a local muffler shop and i had them build a pair of shorty's with tips installed for $250. BOOM saved myself $200 (including shipping) and my car (in my mind) sounds awesome. The only draw back (and i could care less) is i can't put my parts list on the door.

yeah im cool.

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