Concerns Over New Product

Ivary

I agree, there are always issues with the first year car. I also agree it is always cool to own the first year of a model. I bought a RX-8 first year out, it was the coolest ever, I was always showing it to people and opening it up, I got several "cool car" comments whenever I got out of it. It had several recalls, needed an AC upgrade, and the tail lights filled with water in the rain. That was an easy fix, but once at the dealer for a recall issue I saw 40 new RX-8s with tail lights full of water. The new Supra had a 20 HP boost the second year out. This Z car will be one of the only sports cars with a six speed and under 3400 lbs so it may be hard to wait.

SophiaZ

I’m not at all worried about the first production with the “new” Z…. When the 370Z was first lunched, I bought a brand new 09 base and 09 sport and had no issues whatsoever for the 2 years I kept it. If something were to go wrong with the 2023, that’s what warranties and GAP ins is for IMO.

cv129

VR30 motor has existed for ages now.
Chassis and suspension are carried over from Z34.
Center stack is just carried over setup from other Nissan’s and Infiniti’s.
Same Akebono calipers.
Now external CSC!!!!!
Can’t comment on the 9 speed auto though.


Nothing ground breaking, nothing new here. If anything, you can consider it a mechanically improved version of Z34. In this case, I don’t have reservation to be an early bird.

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I'm just coming out of hibernation and getting up to speed.

When did Nissan make the CSC external? And is this just for the new Z (post 370Z models)?

And Nissan finally sees the PITA/nonsense of an internal CSC, but prob still uses the same plastic junk as the 350Z/370Z models.

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SeeThruHead

no such thing as an "external csc". doesn't make any sense, the c stands for concentric.

This picture is the 2023 Nissan Z. (that's what you asked about) The CSC has been removed and they have used an external slave cylinder and fork.

No idea what the external slave cylinder is made of, but it's easy to replace if it breaks.
All 370z have a CSC, replacing it usually leads to a second failure. Most people purchase a CMAK kit to move to an external slave cylinder, which works the same way the 2023 Z system works.

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1. Read the quote from another member. I know what the "C" stands for. I was asking for confirmation on what another member stated about the CSC being external.

2. My original question/request was if someone could confirm the CSC was external from factory, which you posted a picture from what I thought was stock, and hence my follow up questions on if this is for real on Nissan relocating the CSC to the outside of the tranny housing vs the inside and if so, when this started happening.

3. I know the 350/370Z's have a CSC that is prone to failure (going through this right now unfortunately) and I know which kit most recommend between Z1 and ZSpeed.

4. If Nissan has not addressed the CSC issue/materials it's made from, then most likely is the same sh!t from the 350Z's.

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SeeThruHead

I hope you can understand why anyone would think you don't know what you're talking about.

4. The new cylinder shares nothing in common with the parts on the 350z or 370z. Nissan changed it because they were aware of the issue finally. I'm sure it will work fine. And if it fails, like all parts eventually do, it's a 5 min replacement.

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Lol ok internet expert, got it. Once again, read what another member posted. For your convenience, I quoted said member again above. I hope you can understand why I would ask the questions I previously did.

And again, I don't know too much about the new Z, which is why, again, I asked my questions.

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Rusty

All 370Z have the internal slave cylinder. The new Z has the external slave cylinder. Your internal is failing. Get the SpeedZ CMAK kit. The Z1 kit has issues.

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