[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-28-2020, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

it'll be out next fall unless more rona nonsense hurts things.

however, if it looks like that i may pass. i already have a nissan with a TT V6 lol

i'll wait to see the Z06 C8 or just stick with the plan for a mclaren.

https://www.motor1.com/news/441340/n...z-2022-reveal/

A few articles came out yesterday claiming a fall 2022 reveal. Sales for 2023... I agree about its looks. Ive been struggling with that since it came out. The Q60 looks waaay better, but that transmission has to go. The 2008 g37 had the same problem. But at least back then Nissan went from 5 speed to 7 speed in 2009. So far im really digging my camaro's performance. So maybe ill get a used red sport. Do you think the GTR DCT would fit in the Q60RS? If it did.. would it have to be an AWD model?

FPenvy · 08-31-2020, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

https://www.motor1.com/news/441340/n...z-2022-reveal/

A few articles came out yesterday claiming a fall 2022 reveal. Sales for 2023... I agree about its looks. Ive been struggling with that since it came out. The Q60 looks waaay better, but that transmission has to go. The 2008 g37 had the same problem. But at least back then Nissan went from 5 speed to 7 speed in 2009. So far im really digging my camaro's performance. So maybe ill get a used red sport. Do you think the GTR DCT would fit in the Q60RS? If it did.. would it have to be an AWD model?

the GTR DCT wouldnt work without a new chassis. well i cant say for sure but based on the design and being rear mounted in the GTR i'm just assuming there would be placement and engineering challenges to make it work under a Z.

Rusty · 08-31-2020, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

the GTR DCT wouldnt work without a new chassis. well i cant say for sure but based on the design and being rear mounted in the GTR i'm just assuming there would be placement and engineering challenges to make it work under a Z.

It will work. It depends on how much money Nissan wants to throw at it.

FPenvy · 08-31-2020, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

It will work. It depends on how much money Nissan wants to throw at it.

knowing nissan they won't throw

at it.

Hotrodz · 08-31-2020, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

knowing nissan they won't throw

at it.

They are not to make the Z a little GTR lol. They history is to stay with what works for that platform. Until they make a wholesale change with the Infinity line they are not doing anything different with the Z.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-01-2020, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

They are not to make the Z a little GTR lol. They history is to stay with what works for that platform. Until they make a wholesale change with the Infinity line they are not doing anything different with the Z.

Yeah but, 400 hp in the Z doesn't make it GTR fast when the R35 is at like 545+hp

Hotrodz · 09-01-2020, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Yeah but, 400 hp in the Z doesn't make it GTR fast when the R35 is at like 545+hp

Understood my comment was more othe line of the Z shares the same platform as the Q line and unlike GM, Nissan is about keeping the heritage of the two separate. It was a leap for them to expand the Nismo brand beyond the Z.

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UNKNOWN_370 · 09-01-2020, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

the GTR DCT wouldnt work without a new chassis. well i cant say for sure but based on the design and being rear mounted in the GTR i'm just assuming there would be placement and engineering challenges to make it work under a Z.

Not the Z. The q60. So the GTR is not an FM platform vehicle?

FPenvy · 09-01-2020, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Not the Z. The q60. So the GTR is not an FM platform vehicle?

well yes the are all FM platform.

i meant they aren't developing an entirely new chassis for the Z i'm pretty sure it's using the 370Z and Q stuff with some upgrades. not 100% sure of course.

FL 4Motion · 09-01-2020, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Not the Z. The q60. So the GTR is not an FM platform vehicle?

Iirc, the gtr is running a bespoke platform developed specifically for the r35. Yes, it’s a front mid engine mount layout and has a transaxle in the rear, ie the 6 sp dct and rear axle share the same housing. That’s why the gtr trans will never realistically work in another car like the z, way too much $$$ to get that all to marry up nicely. That transaxle would however work pretty easily with a mid engine layout I’d imagine.

Mmmm, mid engine r36. Do it nissan!

FL 4Motion · 09-01-2020, 05:24 PM

You know, I don’t think the r35 engine is front mid mounted. Got curious and looked at a couple pics of the drivetrain sans body and the engine is sitting in what looks like smack dab over the center of the front axle. FM by definition is supposed to be the engine behind the front axle but still in front of the driver correct?

The rear transaxle makes even more sense since the weight over the back end helps negate the importance of FM set up for the engine. Although, when pushed hard the gtr does have some noticeable understeer.

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FL 4Motion A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: FL Posts: 4,776 Drives: Baby Shark Rep Power: 701616	You know, I don’t think the r35 engine is front mid mounted. Got curious and looked at a couple pics of the drivetrain sans body and the engine is sitting in what looks like smack dab over the center of the front axle. FM by definition is supposed to be the engine behind the front axle but still in front of the driver correct? The rear transaxle makes even more sense since the weight over the back end helps negate the importance of FM set up for the engine. Although, when pushed hard the gtr does have some noticeable understeer.