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Originally Posted by Rusty Did you ever watch the Alfa Romeo Giulia commercial? Where they have it zipping around the country side. Hearing the exhaust. That's the type of commercial

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Old 06-14-2017, 05:24 PM   #3586 (permalink)
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Did you ever watch the Alfa Romeo Giulia commercial? Where they have it zipping around the country side. Hearing the exhaust. That's the type of commercial Nissan needs. I didn't mean to compare it with the Giulia or any luxury sedans. Just that type of commercial that catches your eyes and ears with speed and noise.


Oh yeah those commercials are fantastic. Commercials aside though, every reporter that has driven that car loves it. THAT is what the next Z needs. When you watch a z review it's typically "good" or occasionally even great, but it's not the type of car that has the reviewers go "wow" and the Giulia is.
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Unfortunately I think Nissan may have boxed themselves into a corner when they came out with the GTR. An engineering marvel at a reasonable price when it first arrived, however it was not a high volume seller or big money maker.

So now this has forced Nissan to make a tough decision, which halo or sports car do they keep? Both aren't really money makers. Plus R&D and updates cost more for a sports car versus a sedan. So why would Nissan, who cares about profits, like any well managed company do this for two low volume sellers?

I have a feeling, one is going to go and it may be the Z. I never used to think like this before, as I felt the Z35 would incorporate engines and other parts from the Q60, and Nissan would continue to do what they've done from the past into the future. But the reality is sports car sales suck. New C7 Vettes can be had for thousands below MSRP, used ones even more! This, plus the delays on any teaser release of info to the auto press, has me very concerned.

Suv/crossovers, trucks, hybrids, electric and eventually autonomous vehicles have become and will become the automotive battlefield. The sports cars that survive will most likely have 4 seats, with just a couple of exceptions.

I have loved the Z ever since I got my first one in 1978 and will always have a soft spot in my heart for the Z. But I made a decision awhile back not to wait for the Z35. I'll hang on to my current Z for several months but will eventually just keep the new car. Hope I'm wrong and the new Z35 be a killer!
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... Just that type of commercial that catches your eyes and ears with speed and noise.
They can do the noise thing pretty well. You ever heard a Rogue at full throttle? There's a lot of noise there... not much of any of it is good... but they can do noise!
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Guys, honestly though...

What're the odds of the Z35 being a raw sports car?? It'll mostly likely have all the tech gizmos to keep up with the market.

Why am I writing this post? I think I'm trying to make myself feel better LOL
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Guys, honestly though...

What're the odds of the Z35 being a raw sports car?? It'll mostly likely have all the tech gizmos to keep up with the market.

Why am I writing this post? I think I'm trying to make myself feel better LOL
Do you consider the Z a raw sports car now? I think it's a nice balance of power and handling; faster than a FRS or BRZ but doesn't match the handling 'out of the box' (at least that is what I have heard); but not as fast as the stop light warriors of Mustangs and Camaros but handles and drives better than those cars.

I think with all the new requirements we have for all cars, it's hard to produce a low weight fun car to drive that will make everyone happy. I do agree with you, I think the next Z will be something similar to having the same tech as the Infiniti so it will be heavier ride to begin with. I wonder if Nissan is having an internal fight of adding a bunch of tech **** to make the people happy but at the same time, fighting about HP not being needed to be increased because it's a 'drivers car'? Personally, I would love to have them keep the cabin simple and then add about another 50HP under the hood.
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I have a hard time believing anything that comes equipped with Prius tires handles better than the z


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IDK man, tech is nuts now... some skinny *** PS4S tires probably do better than some meaty normal tires
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The Prius tires limit grip but don't hurt the balance or reflexes of the car. The FRS/BRZ's handle better than Z's.
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The Prius tires limit grip but don't hurt the balance or reflexes of the car. The FRS/BRZ's handle better than Z's.
I could see that
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The Z's are "good" at almost everything and "great" at almost nothing. (Good all-around sports car)

The FRS/BRZ's are "great" at handling and "meh" at acceleration. (More of a nitche sports car)
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Do you consider the Z a raw sports car now? I think it's a nice balance of power and handling; faster than a FRS or BRZ but doesn't match the handling 'out of the box' (at least that is what I have heard); but not as fast as the stop light warriors of Mustangs and Camaros but handles and drives better than those cars.

I think with all the new requirements we have for all cars, it's hard to produce a low weight fun car to drive that will make everyone happy. I do agree with you, I think the next Z will be something similar to having the same tech as the Infiniti so it will be heavier ride to begin with. I wonder if Nissan is having an internal fight of adding a bunch of tech **** to make the people happy but at the same time, fighting about HP not being needed to be increased because it's a 'drivers car'? Personally, I would love to have them keep the cabin simple and then add about another 50HP under the hood.
Yes, and what I mean by that is: I LOVE how you can literally just get in the Z and drive. Let's take my brother's golf R as an example...do you know how many settings he has to drive?! I know some people like that, but I hate it. To contradict myself for just a second..I have to admit I love the SRM
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The Z's are "good" at almost everything and "great" at almost nothing. (Good all-around sports car)

The FRS/BRZ's are "great" at handling and "meh" at acceleration. (More of a nitche sports car)
The Z is a work of art, from every angle. The FRS/BRZ are an optical abomination.
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The Z is a work of art, from every angle. The FRS/BRZ are an optical abomination.
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The Z's are "good" at almost everything and "great" at almost nothing. (Good all-around sports car)

The FRS/BRZ's are "great" at handling and "meh" at acceleration. (More of a nitche sports car)
Z's get that same "great" handling rating too when going FRS/BRZ 10 miles per hour.
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The Z is a work of art, from every angle. The FRS/BRZ are an optical abomination.
I like the way the flat 4 allows for a lower, thinner front end on the twins, but I still miss the Z's @$$.

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Z's get that same "great" handling rating too when going FRS/BRZ 10 miles per hour.
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