[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Z1NONLY

I have lost count of the various examples of Z's and Twins I have driven, at the limit, at various venues. I am speaking (writing? ) from experience. The Twins' balance is more neutral than the Z's, and they transition their weight better.

Now, the Twins do come with what people at the track refer to as "Prius tires". (The same low- rolling -resistance tires used on the Prius) I think the tire choice was made to mask the car's low HP....They break away very easily compared to the tires found on most sports cars. The stock tires make for some rather underwhelming grip-related numbers in the car mags, but the balance is still there.

B&W_Evader

It looks like the base model Z comes with prius tires now too with a grip of only 0.90g. I seem to remember 0.96 or 0.98 being touted when I bought mine.

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Jordo!

I'm speaking strictly in terms of performance metrics.

The "controllability" attribute I mentioned could be thought of as equivalent to "balance"; it's easier to get the twins to do what you want and easier to correct if it doesn't.

On the other hand, compare and contrast the twins with sticky tires to itself without and to two other small cars that are equally good or better in terms of balance (one being much more pricey, tho') on performance.

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UNKNOWN_370

Say it's driving dynamics are better. Not outperforms. The Z is atmospheres faster than the twins on most tracks. Some tracks we may only be a lot faster. But most we're destroying the twins.

PERFORMANCE has to do with winning.
DYNAMICS has to do with what you're talking about.

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Z1NONLY

I don't know that "destroy" is applicable once both cars are on the same tires, but the 370Z is classed one class higher than the FRS for SCCA solo and the 350Z is in the same class as the Twins.

The mixture of power and handling that the Z has does seem to be faster in most situations. That's a valid argument. Handling is only a single part of the "winning" equation. The Twins generally give up more to the Z in acceleration, than the Z gives up in handling.

UNKNOWN_370

All I know is.... straight line. It's dead....

https://youtu.be/SmQSxDpSBtw

Road course.... this Z driver is disgustingly bad in the Apexes and the FRS seems to be able to come in to the corner at a higher rate of speed. But he ain't really making a dent on the road course. 370z ends up in front of a 350 and the frs behind the 350.

https://youtu.be/l_9Q3chYAo0

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Z1NONLY

Of course it's "dead" in a straight line. Although its lack of wheel-hop nets 60ft times on par with the Z's at National Pro-Solo's.

And the other video shows that the RSX is faster than everything.

We can bench race here if you like:
Lost my sword, got a pair of scalpels

The Z vs Twins has derailed this thread too much already.

carlitos_370z

I know that guy of the 350z lol!!! #1 his 350z have a Twin Turbo setup and #2 he is not one of the best drivers around

SgtGoldy

never say that about another man. That can bring him to the brink of suicide.



You need to watch "13 Reasons Why".... bully

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carlitos_370z

HAHHAHAHAHA!!! Sorry bro but I have to say it

I have to start watching that series