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chubbs 01-28-2017 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3608679)
They spoke on that a year or two ago saying they may just switch it to Z and do away with the numbering.

Yes, I've been looking forward to owning a Nissan Z.

For one thing, it'll save me having to say, "Well, actually, it's a 370Z. The 350Z was the previous model, which had a slightly smaller engine. You see, the numbers signify..... blah blah blah blah blah yawn".

Datsun Z 01-28-2017 05:30 AM

A 2016 model 370z costs $60000 in Australia now. 5 years ago the price was $65000. We only get the top of the range model here.

I spoke to my local Nissan dealer and a salesman said Nissan will stop making Z cars.

chubbs 01-28-2017 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Datsun Z (Post 3608795)
A 2016 model 370z costs $60000 in Australia now. 5 years ago the price was $65000. We only get the top of the range model here.

I spoke to my local Nissan dealer and a salesman said Nissan will stop making Z cars.

A Nissan salesman said they're won't be a new model? That settles it - there definitely WILL be one, in that case. The rumour is confirmed!

triso07 01-28-2017 06:57 AM

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Nithmo
2 transmission options? Sorry, Nissan doesn't sell enough of these to offer that, nor do they make enough money on these to offer that. Yes, I know there's the AT and MT now, but something tells me what you're asking for is cost prohibitive yet again.
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RicerX
The DCTs in Nissan's lineup? Which ones are those? Don't include the GT-R (since the GT-Rs GR6 transmission just won't port over to any other platform Nissan builds). Oh you mean Infiniti? The DCTs that Mercedes builds and provides that are mated to the 2.0L turbo motors also built and provided by Mercedes? Those are supposed to magically mate to some 450hp twin turbo V6 in the sky that Nissan is holding out on for the next gen Z? And handle the torque output? And be lighter than the trans assemblies in the current 370Z?
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JAR blue
And that's a terrible argument. Compared to the Z, your Evo with DCT is still way behind in the sports car market, so it's not even a good comparison. If your DCT (or any other for that matter) just swapped straight into the Z, then sure, there's no excuses for Nissan not to offer one as an option. Except that's not the case. The R&D to create a new DCT (or even a shared DCT) that works in the Z absolutely is not worth it with such low sales figures.

Best case is they develop a DCT to work in another, more marketable vehicle category to help with costs and it works with the new Z platform. Another option might be to design the new Z platform to work with an existing, earlier generation DCT. And yet another option is they change the target price point for the Z to accommodate any and all upgrades, in which case everything is pretty much up in the air as they could go in a number of directions with it. Bottom line is most people think a DCT in the new Z is doubtful, and your argument that it should be is wishful thinking. I don't think you'll find anyone here who thinks a DCT in the Z is a terrible powertrain option.
lol

Be careful when strongly stating opinions as fact, talking as though you're in the know, or speaking in absolute.

jr0065 01-28-2017 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by triso07 (Post 3608813)
lol

Be careful when strongly stating opinions as fact, talking as though you're in the know, or speaking in absolute.

Only siths speak in absolutes. :rofl2:

UNKNOWN_370 01-28-2017 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by triso07 (Post 3608813)
lol

Be careful when strongly stating opinions as fact, talking as though you're in the know, or speaking in absolute.

It's true, but these guys have well thought-out opinions and I think they are making pretty factually based opinions based on the FM platform and what is availed to that chassis. The probability in what they state is 99%....

HOWEVER....

Nissan stated in 2013 the Z would possibly built on a new MODULAR chassis that would be able to be modified or all drive trains, RWD, FWD & AWD. Which common sense would say, that's why the Grip Z was a mish mash concept of sports car and crossover. In a early 2016 article it was stated that the Nissan juke would be the first car in a 5 car series on this NEW MODULAR PLATFORM.

If in fact the new Z will be the second car to be built on this modular platform? Then in fact all speculation is null and void till we can at least get some feedback on chassis specs from the new platform.

I think it's very possible we get the Benz MCT in the AMG's for our Z? I think DCT is very possible if in fact we get that new chassis for our Z's. Which I think is MOST PROBABLE.

If that's the case... all these very logical guesstimations and speculations will be dispelled.

Remember this post.

NRTim 01-28-2017 11:59 AM

MT and AT for the base and sport is my guess, while the hybrid one is AT only

DLSTR 01-28-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3608709)
Im taking a wait and see approach to these news.

Im wondering if after 30yrs of owning Z's it maybe time to move on.

Smart move to assess when firm data is out about a new Z. I could see the company simply calling it.....The Z. The car has a unique heritage and it will be interesting to see what Nissan create now.

bcfromfl 01-28-2017 02:30 PM

Just came across this article today...nothing extraordinary, but maybe a few details:Nissan Has a New 500-Horsepower Z Concept Coming

Also, earlier in this thread folks were discussing that Mazda has given up on sports cars. This might be in the works: Gorgeous Mazda RX Vision on track for 2020 | Top Gear At a recent visit to my Mazda service department, there was even a slick article in their Mazda magazine about it with an interview. This article is posted on Mazda's official website.

chubbs 01-28-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bcfromfl (Post 3608917)
Just came across this article today...nothing extraordinary, but maybe a few details:Nissan Has a New 500-Horsepower Z Concept Coming

Also, earlier in this thread folks were discussing that Mazda has given up on sports cars. This might be in the works: Gorgeous Mazda RX Vision on track for 2020 | Top Gear At a recent visit to my Mazda service department, there was even a slick article in their Mazda magazine about it with an interview. This article is posted on Mazda's official website.

Sorry to tell you, but the last 2 pages have been discussions based on the very same text as in your link :(

...and they even have an 'artist's impression', for what it's worth (not a lot).

bcfromfl 01-28-2017 03:59 PM

Sorry about that...hard to wade through 200 pages...

chubbs 01-28-2017 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bcfromfl (Post 3608934)
Sorry about that...hard to wade through 200 pages...

I agree. Personally, I think that this latest 'rumour' is the first believable piece of news we've had on the next Z, and therefore deserves a new thread of its own.

UNKNOWN_370 01-28-2017 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3608940)
I agree. Personally, I think that this latest 'rumour' is the first believable piece of news we've had on the next Z, and therefore deserves a new thread of its own.

I think when we see a real concept we can start a new thread. This is still all hearsay

maro 01-28-2017 06:53 PM

Yay ! Finally next gen z concept coming this fall

UNKNOWN_370 01-28-2017 07:45 PM

Remember that they said we were getting a Z concept in early 2016... Just sayin

Cell 01-29-2017 12:42 AM

Roadandtrack says 500hp concept version is coming...

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...oncept-coming/

jcasti07 01-29-2017 12:53 AM

I really hope this is something solid to look forward to. Hopefully they keep a manual tranny as an option.

UNKNOWN_370 01-29-2017 02:36 AM

It's supposed to be the Tokyo auto show....
In October....

Again... lol. I believe it when see it!!

Nissan 370Z Replacement Being Shown in Tokyo With 2017 GT-R Styling - autoevolution

ramoszx12r 01-29-2017 03:21 AM

500 HP that is going to put the Z at GTR price.



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Originally Posted by Cell (Post 3609043)
Roadandtrack says 500hp concept version is coming...

Nissan Has a New 500-Horsepower Z Concept Coming


chubbs 01-29-2017 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3609057)
It's supposed to be the Tokyo auto show....
In October....

Again... lol. I believe it when see it!!

Nissan 370Z Replacement Being Shown in Tokyo With 2017 GT-R Styling - autoevolution

I believe it.

I'll wager 10 of your US Dollars to 10 of my UK Pounds that the new Z concept will be at the Tokyo Autoshow (and my pounds are worth more than your dollars, so it could be a good deal for you). Are you up for it?

UNKNOWN_370 01-29-2017 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3609061)
I believe it.

I'll wager 10 of your US Dollars to 10 of my UK Pounds that the new Z concept will be at the Tokyo Autoshow (and my pounds are worth more than your dollars, so it could be a good deal for you). Are you up for it?

I'm not going to bet. I'm just saying that cuz we were supposed to see a concept in two auto shows already....

I'm not sure how I feel about the next Z possible resembling the 2017 GTR. Don't want the Z to be blocky

chubbs 01-29-2017 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3609132)
I'm not sure how I feel about the next Z possible resembling the 2017 GTR. Don't want the Z to be blocky

I couldn't agree more. The Z needs to retain its own identity and not look anything like a 'baby GT-R'.

sunkist350z 01-29-2017 11:10 AM

I hope they make manual for the top 500hp version don't really care for the dual clutch 7speed auto..if so, I settle for the base 300hp turbo in a manual.

370Z JT 01-29-2017 02:19 PM

500 HP for $50K sounds great. What Japanese import can boast that. But then I'll believe it when I see it

Edit: looks like $50K is for the 400 HP version. LOL

MagmaRed370z 01-29-2017 02:45 PM

All these articles say that the top of the line will potentially be 55k. When I made this thread I was hinting at 60k. I think I guessed well :icon17:

Wonka2581 01-29-2017 04:47 PM

Nissan has one shot left with me.. if the car isn't up to par with competition I'm going to make the jump to the Cayman. A good friend is a dealer and has already told me when I was ready to make the move he has a nice GT4 Cayman.

Hotrodz 01-29-2017 05:22 PM

GT 4 is bad ***!

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P's_Z 01-29-2017 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3609229)
Nissan has one shot left with me.. if the car isn't up to par with competition I'm going to make the jump to the Cayman. A good friend is a dealer and has already told me when I was ready to make the move he has a nice GT4 Cayman.

Do it! :stirthepot:

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3609236)
GT 4 is bad ***!



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^^ what he said ^^ :yum:

Wonka2581 01-29-2017 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3609236)
GT 4 is bad ***!

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He quoted me on a 2016 GT4 with 1,300 miles on it for $77k after doing some research it's a pretty good deal.

Hotrodz 01-29-2017 07:56 PM

Yes it is for 100k car a year earlier!

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SINISTER 01-29-2017 10:14 PM

More power = less reliability
Done with more power....this car is more than enough power.
Its a corner carver not a drag racer....
Dont need it wont waste my money on it.

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2017 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 3609205)
500 HP for $50K sounds great. What Japanese import can boast that. But then I'll believe it when I see it

Edit: looks like $50K is for the 400 HP version. LOL

If I had to speculate? I'd say the 400HP Z would be about $8000 cheaper than the 400HP Q60.

I think the $60k Z will be the 500HP Z. Rightfully so...

Dirk McGurck 01-30-2017 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER (Post 3609360)
More power = less reliability
Done with more power....this car is more than enough power.
Its a corner carver not a drag racer....
Dont need it wont waste my money on it.

On the one hand I agree with you, on the other

https://runningsingle.files.wordpres...15/07/fast.jpg

chubbs 01-30-2017 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3609413)
If I had to speculate? I'd say the 400HP Z would be about $8000 cheaper than the 400HP Q60.

I think the $60k Z will be the 500HP Z. Rightfully so...

Interestingly, when the GT-R was first released in 2008/9, it was 479hp for $69k (or £56k in Britain) - and it was considered a bargain. So, $60k (maybe £50k in Britain) would make a 500hp Z car even more of a bargain than the original GT-R.

I just hope that any new 3.0 litre Z car costs the same or less than the current 370, even if it has somewhere in the region of 400hp. Personally I think Nissan will give the new Z significantly less than 400hp (maybe 370hp?), leaving themselves with room for successive power hikes, as the years go by. Hope I'm wrong.

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2017 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER (Post 3609360)
More power = less reliability
Done with more power....this car is more than enough power.
Its a corner carver not a drag racer....
Dont need it wont waste my money on it.

You can get the base 4 cylinder option n ride around reliably....:hello:


I'll take my chances on poor reliability n go for the gusto!!!:driving:


With the next GTR possibly heading to 800HP.I don't think 500HP will be that big o deal.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/ne...ked-78459.html

jcasti07 01-30-2017 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chubbs (Post 3609496)
Personally I think Nissan will give the new Z significantly less than 400hp (maybe 370hp?), leaving themselves with room for successive power hikes, as the years go by. Hope I'm wrong.

As nice as that would be, look at all of the "power hikes" they gave the Z34 in 8 years. Lol. I wish i could be more optimistic, but...

SINISTER 01-30-2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3609622)
You can get the base 4 cylinder option n ride around reliably....:hello:


I'll take my chances on poor reliability n go for the gusto!!!:driving:


With the next GTR possibly heading to 800HP.I don't think 500HP will be that big o deal.

New R36 Nissan GT-R Specs Allegedly Leaked - autoevolution

Wont need the 4 cylinder I have a 6 cylinder right now:ugh2: ....I got 18k on a 2011 this car will last me 25 years...:yum:

UNKNOWN_370 01-30-2017 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER (Post 3609691)
Wont need the 4 cylinder I have a 6 cylinder right now:ugh2: ....I got 18k on a 2011 this car will last me 25 years...:yum:

I'm not trading my Z34. I'm adding a Z35

NISMO IX 01-30-2017 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3609752)
I'm not trading my Z34. I'm adding a Z35

:iagree:

RicerX 01-31-2017 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by triso07 (Post 3608813)
lol

Be careful when strongly stating opinions as fact, talking as though you're in the know, or speaking in absolute.

Be careful selecting posts, taking them completely out of context, and using them to try to make a halfwit point.


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