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Hotrodz 04-20-2017 12:35 PM

I'm with Jodo, nothing is ever over until it's over lol. What does not a priority really mean? I could simply the Z will continue in its current form until they decide to do something different. If the Z is not losing them a significant amount of money or detracting from other "PRIORITIES" I think Nissan will remain comfortably numb on the Z!

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Hotrodz 04-20-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3643263)
As far as I have read they never said they weren't making it. They just said it isn't a priority. Saying it isn't a priority isn't saying they won't make it, it's just saying they have something else to finish first. They have recently updated almost the entire line, the only cars left are the Versa which I doubt they are going to update right away, the leaf (ugh), and the Pathfinder and Armada. We all know us Americans love huge SUVs for some reason, so I suspect they are working on updating those models then might turn their attention to a new z when they have an entirely fresh lineup. Which I would hope is before the 50th anniversary.

Lol...you beat me to the punch. :p

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sx moneypit 04-20-2017 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3643263)
As far as I have read they never said they weren't making it. They just said it isn't a priority. Saying it isn't a priority isn't saying they won't make it, it's just saying they have something else to finish first. They have recently updated almost the entire line, the only cars left are the Versa which I doubt they are going to update right away, the leaf (ugh), and the Pathfinder and Armada. We all know us Americans love huge SUVs for some reason, so I suspect they are working on updating those models then might turn their attention to a new z when they have an entirely fresh lineup. Which I would hope is before the 50th anniversary.

:iagree:

zguynate 04-21-2017 06:45 AM

[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Z35?
 
I feel like some of you guys are reading too much into what that guy said. The article quotes him saying that the 370z is not a priority. Why would the 370z specifically be a priority now after years of stagnation? I think he is referring to the 370Z specifically, especially since there is no other context given to us and he actually says "370z". Maybe that was a response to a question regarding the heritage edition. Then he said he hopes that they will have a successor, which falls in line with what Nissan itself has been doing with Z speculation. Not confirming, nor denying. I really think his comments are being taken out of context and people are running with it. Thats the kind of thing these articles do to generate buzz. Especially since every outlet that I can find only quotes the same 2 exact things as everyone else and nothing else that he said in between or before those quotes. It leads me to believe that they are just piggybacking off of what one journalist wrote and building on that.


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Tick64 04-21-2017 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3642876)
Part of the Z tradition has been it's numerical configurations: 240, 260, 280, 300, 350 and 370. So if they decided to stay true to this, (which they should) then the next Z should be the 380z or 400Z or whatever. We know the number represents the size of the engine, and this is where Nissan would have a problem.

I don't think Nissan is making big liter engines due to emissions. The Q50 400 Red is called that not because of the engine size but fort it's horsepower.

So, Nissan is at a crossroads. If they call the next Fairlady a 400Z based on Horsepower, then they would be braking a 50 year old tradition of naming the car based on the engine size.

I very well think this is it for the Z as it can not continue with this numeration without braking tradition.

Yes, I think everyone here agrees. The Z is discontinued because they can no longer follow traditional naming conventions :rolleyes:

TN.Z 04-21-2017 06:55 PM

They will most likely just name it the Z or bring over the correct name and call it the Fairlady Z. Either way, they can still name it a lower number based on displacement. It will most likely be multiple engine choices or be a 3.0TT like the Q50/60 in which case they can just name it the 300Z. They have plenty of choices as far as naming.

Soygen 04-22-2017 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tick64 (Post 3643837)
Yes, I think everyone here agrees. The Z is discontinued because they can no longer follow traditional naming conventions :rolleyes:

I mean it makes sense. My wife and I named our first child Zack. We didn't give our 2nd and 3rd child a name since we started at the end of the alphabet and ran out of letters.

Volk Z 04-23-2017 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoomZ (Post 3642879)
If your theory is correct, what is wrong with a 380? Bump up .1 litre and maybe TT's?

They have this already.... It's called a GTR

Rusty 04-23-2017 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Soygen (Post 3643948)
I mean it makes sense. My wife and I named our first child Zack. We didn't give our 2nd and 3rd child a name since we started at the end of the alphabet and ran out of letters.

George Foreman named all 8 of his kids, George. :rofl2:

Hotrodz 04-25-2017 06:48 PM

It sounds like the Z is not going to be killed after all...https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertels.../#3e9733a75301

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Nixin 04-25-2017 07:08 PM

The story didn't refer to any new Z/Z35 models. Or do we need to read between, behind, above and below the lines to decipher Nissan Corps. announcement?

MagmaRed370z 05-14-2017 08:43 PM

Still no real news about the new Z. Very disappointed. At least they should tease us somehow.

Jordo! 05-16-2017 04:36 PM

I like the Toilet of Many Camshafts.

UNKNOWN_370 05-16-2017 07:21 PM

"Nissan lost that battle and sold barely 1,000 units in 1997. A legendary car that had helped establish Datsun (later Nissan) as a legitimate player in the U.S. market was sent off to the graveyard."

That's Off-The-Record: The Almost Stillborn Nissan Z


How do you abandon the car that made you who you are? Seriously!!

6spd 05-17-2017 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3654031)
"Nissan lost that battle and sold barely 1,000 units in 1997. A legendary car that had helped establish Datsun (later Nissan) as a legitimate player in the U.S. market was sent off to the graveyard."

That's Off-The-Record: The Almost Stillborn Nissan Z


How do you abandon the car that made you who you are? Seriously!!

I have a comparison. At work, when discussing changing a process/method my company had been using for a while, I had to say to them (respectfully of course), "While I appreciate the sentiment, that idea is no longer profitable."

Emotion aside and looking purely at profit and portfolio, if it doesn't make money or have a future making money, divest from it.

While I/we may not like it, this is probably what they really want to say to us about the Z.

Nixin 05-17-2017 07:53 AM

My gut feeling is that Nissan will not kill off the Z forever. They may send the Z into a hiatus, like GM did the Camaro. Sooner, rather than later, Nissan will realize their mistake and resurrect the legendary Z. Until then, we will mod, tune, soup up and drive our current Z's and b!tch about all things Nissan.

UNKNOWN_370 05-17-2017 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 3654184)
I have a comparison. At work, when discussing changing a process/method my company had been using for a while, I had to say to them (respectfully of course), "While I appreciate the sentiment, that idea is no longer profitable."

Emotion aside and looking purely at profit and portfolio, if it doesn't make money or have a future making money, divest from it.

While I/we may not like it, this is probably what they really want to say to us about the Z.

I get the logic.... but one.... it's a parts bin car. The ONLY thing costing them any real money is the sheetmetal and ECU.

Lastly... Where are their balls.

Look at the auto industry like a boxing ring. Nissan would be a boxer that would enter the ring with hippie clothes and a guitar singing kumbaya instead of boxing gloves and a mouth piece saying Dead meat. Smh... fxckin pu$$ies have NO PRIDE.

Some things are about heritage. They need to take a lesson from GM and Ford. Who both say their corvette and Mustang will ALWAYS exist.

6spd 05-17-2017 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3654230)
I get the logic.... but one.... it's a parts bin car. The ONLY thing costing them any real money is the sheetmetal and ECU.

Lastly... Where are their balls.

Look at the auto industry like a boxing ring. Nissan would be a boxer that would enter the ring with hippie clothes and a guitar singing kumbaya instead of boxing gloves and a mouth piece saying Dead meat. Smh... fxckin pu$$ies have NO PRIDE.

Some things are about heritage. They need to take a lesson from GM and Ford. Who both say their corvette and Mustang will ALWAYS exist.

I feel ya, and I agree lmao, for f'cks sake just rebadge the q60 and we'll be happy

Pinoy_370z 05-17-2017 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 3654256)
I feel ya, and I agree lmao, for f'cks sake just rebadge the q60 and we'll be happy

It is not 6spd! But, 7spd Auto. You might not like it. lol

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Nixin 05-17-2017 05:16 PM

The new Q60 is far from being a true Z, but at least it would be a small step in the right direction.

6spd 05-17-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pinoy_370z (Post 3654315)
It is not 6spd! But, 7spd Auto. You might not like it. lol

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I love the auto in my wife's Q50S

Hotrodz 05-17-2017 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3654372)
The new Q60 is far from being a true Z, but at least it would be a small step in the right direction.

Agreed at least it would give a guy a choice versus no choice!

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posades 05-18-2017 11:32 AM

Teaser of the new Nissan Leaf headlight came out, maybe since they're done with that redesign they can finally start on the Z. :o

http://cdn2.carbuyer.co.uk/sites/car...?itok=vHtZl6gz

New Nissan Leaf teased | Carbuyer

UNKNOWN_370 05-27-2017 12:07 AM

No juke???? Wtf
 
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/n...be-killed-off/

If Nissan doesn't produce the next gen Juke that's supposed to come out in the fall? We are DEFINITELY not getting a Z.

A news report came out SUDDENLY last week saying that by 2030. Cars will be for the rich and the middle class will have to drive around in electric chariots.

STOP BUYING HYBRIDS. It's fvckin amazing how this is happening to the car market. They want the middle class to have boring him drum lives and live in cubicals instead of houses. It's just unreal.

Nissan sucks. I'd buy 3 Hyundai's before I buy another Nissan product. I'm going to shop to trade my Altima for a car withOUT CVT and without FWD. I'm not buying infiniti either. I'm not buying a car from anyone going green.

Then I'll buy my sports car. Fvck Nissan. Fvck Nissan n fvck Nissan.

I know a lot of people didn't like the Juke but it signified at minimum a second sport entry and my experience behind the wheel of one was surprisingly IMPRESSIVE.

Fvck Nissan n fvck their Grip Z. N fvck infiniti and that ******** outdated overpriced gtr. I'm done with Nissan and their moronic auto ideology. I regret having owned 6 Nissan's. I thought I was supporting men who build man cars.

I guess I was supporting azz wrangling pillow biting tofu fagz that wanna make snooze mobiles.

Good riddance Nissan. Almost feel like selling my Z out of principle right now.

I h8 everything that Nissan stands for right now.

axmea? 05-27-2017 12:11 AM

You need a bar of chocolate.

Optimiser 05-27-2017 02:01 AM

If they don't produce a new Z it will make ours more unique, interesting and valuable.
YAY to no new Z! :driving:

Rusty 05-27-2017 02:56 AM

The Nissan rep at ZDayZ was non committal on the new Z when asked. He was happy tells us about the new 2018 heritage edition Z. Which looks looks any other Z. :shakes head: He did say that events like ZDayZ and other events gives them ammo to fight for the new Z. To me. it sounds like an internal fight going on about the Z. Bean counters vs car guys.

jchammond 05-27-2017 06:29 AM

2018' also has Chrome door handles,a stripe package & some little interior trim work...and if not mistaken; only will come in black or yellow (can't remember/could be just the one's with the stripe pgk/or heritage edition) but as Rusty say's...just another 370,
Same powertrain.

6spd 05-27-2017 08:30 AM

NO JUKE?! I was just saying to myself the other day, "man, I can't wait to see the next Juke design!"

Dude...

jwick 05-27-2017 09:10 AM

I've been done with Nissan ever since they tried to take advantage of my wife in the service department. The service manager was straight up lying to her about what she needed repaired. He tried to give me the same treatment. That weekend we had a new Lexus in the driveway and I'd owned my last Nissan.

axmea? 05-27-2017 11:00 AM

2017, 2018, so 2019 and diabetic by then.

Volk Z 05-27-2017 11:44 AM

The new Supra TT is coming out so if Nissan ditch the Z then I will have no problem to jump ship with Nissan.

As for now I will enjoy my Nismo.

MagmaRed370z 05-27-2017 02:45 PM

They simply care about profits.

UNKNOWN_370 05-27-2017 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed370z (Post 3657564)
They simply care about profits.

Nissan should switch to making baby carriages and tampons. Lil bytches.

FERRARI 05-28-2017 11:42 AM

Of course........Name a company that doesn't ......

UNKNOWN_370 05-28-2017 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FERRARI (Post 3657733)
Of course........Name a company that doesn't ......

Profit....

Versa
Versa note
LEAF
Sentra
Altima
Rogue
Rogue Sport
MAXIMA
Juke
NV
Frontier
Titan
Pathfinder
Armada

And all their wacky Doo variants...

HERITAGE

370z

GT-R

_____________________

Is it really that hard to maintain two sports cars when you make record profits since 2011?

Thin line between profit and greed.

A car company without heritage is not worth giving money to. I said it about Toyota and Honda when they fell off. I'll say it about Nissan too.

Sports cars are heritage cars.

ScottM 05-28-2017 05:32 PM

The new Titan is pretty kick ***. I can see it selling well

Nixin 05-28-2017 07:44 PM

GM seems to build and maintain two heritage sports vehicles without any major fuss or loss of profit; Camaro and Corvette. Even Ford has two heritage type vehicles, the Mustang and the new GT. Why Nissan is taking their sweet time to introduce the new Z is beyond all normal comprehension.

Jordo! 05-30-2017 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixin (Post 3657829)
GM seems to build and maintain two heritage sports vehicles without any major fuss or loss of profit; Camaro and Corvette. Even Ford has two heritage type vehicles, the Mustang and the new GT. Why Nissan is taking their sweet time to introduce the new Z is beyond all normal comprehension.

I think we'll know more by the TMS. Toyota will be showing off their new Supra and Nissan will kind of have to step up or move over.

That said, the generation that was slavering the most over a new Supra is closing in on 40 (the generation closing in on 50 will likely opt for something else entirely), while the younger generation (< 30) couldn't care less.

That takes the pressure of Nissan, who might have tabled the Z entirely, but now might have a new market to introduce the Z to that will not simply flock to a Supra. It levels the playing field.

In short, it's a matter of striking when the time is right.

If Toyota had managed to get the 86 out 10 years earlier, they wouldn't have been able to keep them on the lot. Everyone who had hit the limits on the Integra and Celica was chomping at the bit for a FR tuner car. Unfortunately, by the time the 86 was released, everyone who really wanted one now wanted something else, and the younger generation didn't quite see the point.

I think we'll have a definitive answer by TMS.

Z1NONLY 06-08-2017 05:22 PM

I'm sure this is blasphemous, but what if Nissan took the Z back to it's original weight and...gasp...power?

My wife and I were discussing how Nissan could make the next Z without pricing it into extinction and we looked up the original 240Z.

The power/weight numbers are very close to fun car that's being sold for around 30K right now{

1969? 240Z = 2300 lbs, 151 HP

2017 ND Miata = 2332 lbs, 155 HP...and it starts at $26,395

A fun, nimble, driver's car can be made for under 30k. Mazda is doing it now.

The Z has always had 6 cylinders, so unless Nissan has been working on a small (light) 6 cylinder they plan to use on many vehicles in the fleet, (cost sharing) the motor may be the biggest obstacle.

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