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carlitos_370z 01-27-2017 10:00 AM

I hope that this rumors come to reality!

NissanFreak81 01-27-2017 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3608489)
What I'm really curious about is if Infiniti will save the dual-clutch units for a performance line to throw against the Ms and AMGs of the world.

When they developed the Q50 Eau Rouge prototype, they said they decided to keep the 7AT as its transmission because they wanted to avoid the harshness that can come with a dual clutch gearbox because it was still a luxury car. If they maintain that philosophy and approach, we could finally see a true performance arm of Infiniti, while the Z gets the performance bits it truly deserves.

That's kind of what I was thinking. The high performance Z/Q60 would get the dual clutch to go up against the M/AMG/RS models and the lower high volume versions would stick to the regular AT to keep the more luxury side.

FPenvy 01-27-2017 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3608482)
Disconcerting absence of a manual transmission in all that talk on C&D.

The better news is that it will share a platform with the Infiniti siblings instead of that modular platform that it was rumored to share with the next-gen Juke.

7 Speed Dual Clutch makes sense in that it will absolutely be shared with the Infinitis that are very due for that, but I'm worried it may be sourced from Mercedes (the only dual clutch offered by Infiniti currently is the QX30, and that's paired with the Merc's 2.0T)... I'll bet money it's either Mercedes-sourced, or Borg Warner has something cooking for this (that would be my preference)

All in all, it sounds like that $60k figure will absolutely be seen once you option this sucker out.

I always wanted back into a Z, but if they make a manual in this new Z mated to the VR30DDTT, it's possible that drivetrain configuration could make it into a Q50, and a 6MT twin turbo Q50 will be my forever car without a doubt.

Now we can all finally look forward to Tokyo and see what happens!



To back up your point I currently have a 2015 merc with the 2.0 and dct at my disposal and it is not very good. Hopefully they go with another choice than that or that unit with much better tcm and better clutch packs.

Sidenote the missing mt talk gives me a chubby ;)

JARblue 01-27-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3608498)
Sidenote the missing mt talk gives me a chubby ;)

:gtfo2:

FPenvy 01-27-2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3608521)
:gtfo2:



Make me! Lol

JARblue 01-27-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3608523)
Make me! Lol

Cum on in then :yum:

FPenvy 01-27-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3608526)
Cum on in then :yum:



:yum:

Wonka2581 01-27-2017 11:06 AM

Guys guys guys Loooooook!!!

Nissan Z Concept Coming; Production Car Could Reach 500 Horsepower

Wonka2581 01-27-2017 11:16 AM

Omg guys its happening!!!!
 
Drum rolll please...

Nissan Z Concept Coming; Production Car Could Reach 500 Horsepower

FPenvy 01-27-2017 11:17 AM

Bro....you're like 10 hours behind lol

Wonka2581 01-27-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3608539)
Bro....you're like 10 hours behind lol

Dammit lol

FPenvy 01-27-2017 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3608541)
Dammit lol



Actually I was behind too. Saw it this morning but the admin on the Z35 forum posted it at 3am. Fuckin guy is good lol

Wonka2581 01-27-2017 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3608544)
Actually I was behind too. Saw it this morning but the admin on the Z35 forum posted it at 3am. Fuckin guy is good lol

I read it and got tunnel vision and posted it without even looking lol

FPenvy 01-27-2017 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3608554)
I read it and got tunnel vision and posted it without even looking lol



I almost did the same lol

I'm just really sad it's gonna take 2 more years most likely until it's available to buy. By then it'll already be behind the curve most likely. If they want this Z to sell and work they need to get it out now. Not 2019/2020.

triso07 01-27-2017 11:55 AM

Just saying, where are you DCT naysayers to eat crow?

madeinjapan 01-27-2017 12:13 PM

will be $69,999

bthomas87 01-27-2017 12:15 PM

This thread already exists... It's litterally 2 threads below.

NRTim 01-27-2017 12:31 PM

Nissan is not stupid enough to not offer a MT for the Z right?.....

BC416 01-27-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NRTim (Post 3608579)
Nissan is not stupid enough to not offer a MT for the Z right?.....

I'd have no problem going somewhere else for my next purchase if so.

kenchan 01-27-2017 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ayrton88 (Post 3608491)
no stick....no sale

Right on, no sale of my 370Z.

KN21283 01-27-2017 12:50 PM

Damn, it's an ugly....

RicerX 01-27-2017 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by triso07 (Post 3608568)
Just saying, where are you DCT naysayers to eat crow?

A broken clock being right twice a day doesn't mean it isn't broken.

1) the DCT is going to be shared with the Q60 and Q50, if not other Infiniti models. That reinforces my point about DCT even being a possibility - a point you refused to comprehend.
2) it's still going to touch $60k optioned out. It will cost $50k for a 400hp version. 300hp isn't competitive per your original argument. So the bang for the buck prophecy you insisted upon hasn't quite met reality just yet, so don't get too excited.

MagmaRed370z 01-27-2017 02:46 PM

Please use this thread: http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...t-new-z35.html

Magic Bus 01-27-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3608498)
Sidenote the missing mt talk gives me a chubby ;)

:icon17:

If and when that new Z comes out, I'm sure it will not look like the C&D rendering. I'm also in the camp that believes it will be 400 hp or just a tad bit more, with only a DCT shared with Infiniti and it will not weigh lighter than our current Z.

Below is the list of all cars sold for 2016. Look at the number of two seat sports cars sold and you'll see that it's a very small percentage of cars sold. For a manufacturer to invest big R&D dollars on a one off car, with small sales, just does not make any financial sense and Carlos Ghosn is a $$'s & sense guy. So for a new Z to exist, it will have to share a lot of other components with other Nissan/Infiniti vehicles.

2016 Year End U.S. Passenger Car Sales Rankings - Top 165 Best-Selling Cars In America - Every Car Ranked - GOOD CAR BAD CAR

FPenvy 01-27-2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 3608641)
:icon17:



If and when that new Z comes out, I'm sure it will not look like the C&D rendering. I'm also in the camp that believes it will be 400 hp or just a tad bit more, with only a DCT shared with Infiniti and it will not weigh lighter than our current Z.



Below is the list of all cars sold for 2016. Look at the number of two seat sports cars sold and you'll see that it's a very small percentage of cars sold. For a manufacturer to invest big R&D dollars on a one off car, with small sales, just does not make any financial sense and Carlos Ghosn is a $$'s & sense guy. So for a new Z to exist, it will have to share a lot of other components with other Nissan/Infiniti vehicles.



2016 Year End U.S. Passenger Car Sales Rankings - Top 165 Best-Selling Cars In America - Every Car Ranked - GOOD CAR BAD CAR



I'm in with you on your specs predictions.

I don't see it being a 500hp hybrid like the article hints as a rumor.

I see it being 400hp maybe 425hp to separate the Z and the Q. The nismo will be 450hp since they already stated than an ipl version of the Q was on the bill with 450hp.

The dct is fine with me if it works. If it's the same one on that cla merc I have at the house god help us.

Weight I'd say will be close. The engine is lighter now and whatever extras for safety I think it'll come in at 3350-3450lbs

littlejuanito 01-27-2017 03:52 PM

It's gonna be 400HP... I'm guessing it will be called the 400Z

ParkStr8 01-27-2017 03:55 PM

Nissan will show a Z concept at this year's Tokyo auto show - Autoblog

chubbs 01-27-2017 04:16 PM

At last, we have information that seems to be informed. I wouldn't necessarily believe all of it and there is clearly information missing (eg., will it be RWD and will there be a manual option and has the rumoured puny 4-cylinder option gone?), but in less than 40 weeks there will be an unveiling of of the 370's successor. Wow!

...and please don't believe the 'artist's impression' rendering from BestCar magazine. Like all pre-concept attempts, it's a horrible mish-mash of bits from here, there and everywhere. Be patient, wait & see :)

FPenvy 01-27-2017 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3608660)
It's gonna be 400HP... I'm guessing it will be called the 400Z



They spoke on that a year or two ago saying they may just switch it to Z and do away with the numbering.

Also FYI the number prior to the Z in the name was based on displacement not horsepower so technically it would revert back to being a 300Z.

Wonka2581 01-27-2017 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3608679)
They spoke on that a year or two ago saying they may just switch it to Z and do away with the numbering.

Also FYI the number prior to the Z in the name was based on displacement not horsepower so technically it would revert back to being a 300Z.

Ding ding ding you are correct!! And I'm good with them just going with Z or z34, z35 and so on.

jwick 01-27-2017 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3608679)
They spoke on that a year or two ago saying they may just switch it to Z and do away with the numbering.

Also FYI the number prior to the Z in the name was based on displacement not horsepower so technically it would revert back to being a 300Z.


Yup but I'd happily buy a 400Z with a small high reving V8

FPenvy 01-27-2017 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3608688)
Yup but I'd happily buy a 400Z with a small high reving V8



Just imagine if that vk swap ever became a reality for a decent price. :yum:

Duc_Z09 01-27-2017 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3608688)
Yup but I'd happily buy a 400Z with a small high reving V8

Short stroke 4L v8 with a 10k rpm ceiling?:eekdance:

...fap fap fap fap fap...

kenchan 01-27-2017 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3608693)
Just imagine if that vk swap ever became a reality for a decent price. :yum:

i hear next Z comes with dual clutch. perfect for u.. boring for me

Trips 01-27-2017 06:12 PM

Im taking a wait and see approach to these news.

Im wondering if after 30yrs of owning Z's it maybe time to move on.

Xhilr8n! 01-27-2017 06:30 PM

There have been a couple of mentions of the stalk like "mirrors" on the concept.

Those are stalks to hold cameras that we can view on our screen. Our Civic Si has one on the right (under a conventional mirror). It's really great, but sorta hard to use at night, lots of glare.

Have seen this on several concept cars.

NISMO IX 01-27-2017 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 3608686)
Ding ding ding you are correct!! And I'm good with them just going with Z or z34, z35 and so on.

Or Fairlady :tup:

Ape Factory 01-27-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3608648)
I see it being 400hp maybe 425hp to separate the Z and the Q. The nismo will be 450hp since they already stated than an ipl version of the Q was on the bill with 450hp.

Where'd you see the info about an IPL version of the Q60? That may keep me out of an RS3 when it hits U.S. shores if it truly has 450hp, firmer shocks, LSD and hopefully a better steering rack. Link appreciated!

King 01-27-2017 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 3608765)
Where'd you see the info about an IPL version of the Q60? That may keep me out of an RS3 when it hits U.S. shores if it truly has 450hp, firmer shocks, LSD and hopefully a better steering rack. Link appreciated!

Does the Q60 Red Sport 400 count? idk

Ape Factory 01-27-2017 11:11 PM

It doesn't. The RS has 400hp, relatively soft suspension, ZERO steering feel, zero exhaust noise and no LSD. I test drove one and it was a pretty meh moment. The engine was nice but it wasn't drool inducing. The car just had zero edge/excitement to it.


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