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MagmaRed370z 03-23-2015 03:14 PM

[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?
 
2017 Nissan Z35 could feature turbo hybrid powertrain | Digital Trends

The Nissan 370Z is due for some major changes in the next couple of years, and that’s major with a capital Z … just go with it.

Motoring is reporting that, by 2017, Nissan’s 370Z may be rebadged ‘Z35’ and marketed as a truly global sports car. The 370Z (and its predecessor, the 350Z) were mainly endorsed in the U.S. and Japan, so the next Z-car could have a much more universal allure.

Spearheading the Z35’s broad appeal with be a wider variety of powertrain choices. Unlike its antecedents, which were solely offered with a fantastic VQ series V6, the new car will house a Mercedes-Benz-sourced 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder, the same one that’s found in the Infiniti Q50. The engine only makes 211 horsepower in the Infiniti (and Skyline abroad), but Nissan has a plan for that.

To thwart horsepower reduction stress, the turbo four-pot will be mated to an electric power source to lower fuel consumption and, of course, increase thrust.

A 402-horsepower turbo 3.0-liter six-cylinder is in the pipe too, which will also be given a electric boost. Combined hybrid output hasn’t been confirmed yet, but sources say the six-cylinder will be Mercedes-sourced as well. The engines do sound promising; it will be hard not to miss the VQ V6s, though.

Styling should receive significant revisions, the most prominent of which being an open-top targa layout. Motoring’s sources “feel this feature will appeal to a wider cross-section of potential customers.”

These changes makes sense, considering that, in one form or another, the 370Z has been around since 2002. Yes, the 370Z was thoroughly revamped during its evolution from the 350Z moniker, but both cars were naturally aspirated, V6-powered, hefty sports cars with a similar look and driving style.

The addition of a T-bar roof and a turbo hybrid powertrain should shake things up quite a bit, giving Z-car fans the automotive excitement they’re looking for today with the technology of tomorrow. If Motoring’s report proves to be accurate, the Z35 should be smaller and lighter than the 370Z as well.

The Z35 is expected to start for around $60,000 when it debuts by 2017.

DavidZ370 03-23-2015 03:19 PM

I would walk over to it, take a nice glance and sign for my pre owned GTR as I glance.

brancky3 03-23-2015 03:22 PM

$60k for a 4banger? Or $60k for the 3.0T? I'd buy a Porsche for that kind of cash...

JARblue 03-23-2015 03:23 PM

There's like a dozen threads on this already. Including one about that exact article when it came out last August ;)

Here's a couple of the more active threads speculating on the upcoming Z specs.

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...2016-370z.html

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...5-details.html

MagmaRed370z 03-23-2015 03:40 PM

Lets pretend that its out! And it costs 60k for the TwinTurbo Z35 making 450HP. Would you buy it?

6MT-Z34 03-23-2015 03:45 PM

if it starts at $60K then no...way too much money and a more competitive price point...you start adding options and im sure it can easily go past $70K which is going into GTR territory

Duc_Z09 03-23-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3146439)
Lets pretend that its out! And it costs 60k for the TwinTurbo Z35 making 450HP. Would you buy it?

Only if it's got fully adjustable (or even magnetic/dynamic) coil-overs, awesome brakes, upgraded interior, killer looks (better than the 2015 NISMO anyway:icon14:), standard backup camera, is available in 6MT, has a nice aftermarket for boost mods, and won't blow apart when pushing 600+ HP.

I won't hold my breath.

jpkirk 03-23-2015 04:12 PM

Ibtl

Bshields22 03-23-2015 04:41 PM

No way anyone is going to buy a Z35 for $60K as wonderful as these cars are and like everyone has already mentioned, your getting into another class of car for that amount.

Just some food for thought though...I've noticed some of these Z35 articles coming out of Australia, where the price for cars is about double then what is is here in the US. There may be some confusion with this $60K price tag floating around.

I watch an Australian review of the Z34 and they said a new one will cost you some staggering amount...

JARblue 03-23-2015 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3146439)
Lets pretend that its out! And it costs 60k for the TwinTurbo Z35 making 450HP. Would you buy it?

Hell no...

That being said, you haven't given any specs other than boost, hp level, and price. For $60K it better have some serious weight reduction, significantly better cooling, and improvements to the clutch system. I'm thinking mainly about the CSC and CMC, but a nicer pedal would be great too (a linear one without a stupid helper spring).

And lets not forget that for that price the interior needs to be pretty damn immaculate. No one's going to pay for a $60K Nissan that doesn't feel like a $60K car on the inside.

Nissan is fuckin stupid, but I don't think they're quite stupid enough to push out a $60K Z. Maybe $50-55K for the absolute top end model with every option available, but the base model is going to have to be under $40K. And maybe even $30K to be competitive depending on which direction they take with it.

Cell 03-23-2015 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3146521)
Hell no...

That being said, you haven't given any specs other than boost, hp level, and price. For $60K it better have some serious weight reduction, significantly better cooling, and improvements to the clutch system. I'm thinking mainly about the CSC and CMC, but a nicer pedal would be great too (a linear one without a stupid helper spring).

And lets not forget that for that price the interior needs to be pretty damn immaculate. No one's going to pay for a $60K Nissan that doesn't feel like a $60K car on the inside.

Nissan is fuckin stupid, but I don't think they're quite stupid enough to push out a $60K Z. Maybe $50-55K for the absolute top end model with every option available, but the base model is going to have to be under $40K. And maybe even $30K to be competitive depending on which direction they take with it.

I think it has to be a bad source for them to report 60k. Nissan released the Z with the idea of it being an affordable sports car. 60k would bring it out of it being affordable.

Duc_Z09 03-23-2015 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3146521)
No one's going to pay for a $60K Nissan that doesn't feel like a $60K car on the inside.

Oh I dunno, plenty of people are willing to pay $110k for a Nissan that looks like a $15k Cobalt on the outside.:stirthepot:

JARblue 03-23-2015 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3146526)
Oh I dunno, plenty of people are willing to pay $110k for a Nissan that looks like a $15k Cobalt on the outside.:stirthepot:

Looks are subjective. I wasn't really talking about interior styling. I was referring to features more than anything.

And I bet if Nissan put 600 hp in the Z plenty of people would pay to play as well...

nomodsjk 03-23-2015 05:32 PM

******* ********!

MagmaRed370z 03-23-2015 05:52 PM

60k for the new Z is ridiculous. I would consider it starting at 33-34k all the way up to 41k. That's what happened to the Z32, they ramped up the price and they made a huge mistake.

kenchan 03-23-2015 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3146439)
Lets pretend that its out! And it costs 60k for the TwinTurbo Z35 making 450HP. Would you buy it?

no

i rather have 3 honda fits

JARblue 03-23-2015 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3146609)
no

i rather have 3 honda fits

But your wife is going to be driving a company car (Prius probably :p). Would your HOA let you park all four in your driveway (since the garage is occupied)? :icon08:

Asheth 03-23-2015 07:07 PM

The price point is competitive with an M4 and it would have more horses, but it would depend on it's weight if it could hang. The M4 is about the weight of the current Z with more horses and some backseats(if you want to call them backseats). If it could hang with the M4 I actually don't think that price is to outrageous if it isn't starting at 60k, but by 2017 400+ hp for a car like this should be kind of the benchmark or really close for a car like this.

I'd just assume they will use the same engine that is going in the Q60 concept they showed in Detroit that figure is suppose to be 400+bhp. 60k might fetch a Nismo version, but it shouldn't start at 60k.

MR.nismo 03-23-2015 07:24 PM

65 big ones to start with and if it happens like the GTR were was targeted for about the same price tag but look where it is now, double the target price.
As someone mentioned earlier, the M4 goes for that amount and is "light" adding that it has back seats and twin turbo.
I would have to see it before I speculate if buying one or not.
:worship:

kenchan 03-23-2015 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3146625)
But your wife is going to be driving a company car (Prius probably :p). Would your HOA let you park all four in your driveway (since the garage is occupied)? :icon08:

:icon14::rofl2: bwahahaha

Spooler 03-23-2015 07:39 PM

Noop, it is a total departure from what the Z is totally about. Very good handling, power and beautiful body lines for way less than a comparable car.

Limeybastard 03-23-2015 08:39 PM

That article was bull$hit.

Back on topic, Id rather have 3 camels and goat for backup.

Magic Bus 03-23-2015 08:51 PM

Article is dated Aug 8, 2014. More info has surfaced from Nissan since then, so basically throw out that old article.

victort 03-23-2015 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT-Z34 (Post 3146445)
if it starts at $60K then no...way too much money and a more competitive price point...you start adding options and im sure it can easily go past $70K which is going into GTR territory

$70,000 is not GTR territory

kenchan 03-23-2015 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 3146727)
Article is dated Aug 8, 2014. More info has surfaced from Nissan since then, so basically throw out that old article.

yah, the next z is priced $90k lol

Super Werty 03-23-2015 11:30 PM

I'm not sure I would want a hybrid...putting aside the obvious weight increase disadvantage, it seems to me like one more hurdle to overcome with aftermarket

like what if you want to double the power with aftermarket support...will the battery and electric motor get in the way?

Id rather keep it simple. put the fancy hybrid stuff on the gtr

DavidZ370 03-23-2015 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by victort (Post 3146817)
$70,000 is not GTR territory

Says who, there are tons of them pre owned for 70 k EASY. My local dealer is selling a 2014 for 90k flat

jaedub 03-24-2015 01:25 AM

The Z is meant to be an affordable sports car. 60k is just plain BS. I'm willing to bet the Z35 will start under 40k

victort 03-24-2015 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3146884)
Says who, there are tons of them pre owned for 70 k EASY. My local dealer is selling a 2014 for 90k flat

yea... even at 90, it still isn't close to 70. that's an extra 30% more

SOUTHZZ 03-24-2015 02:43 AM

A new 370Z now is overpriced for what you get.

60K? No way.

As an old Z guy,(owned an original 240Z,bought the rebirth 350 when they first came out,
the 370...to me just the same thing Nissan&Datsun has done. Starts with a great design,
ruins it by adding weight and ugly design changes etc.) I wish the new Z would take
a fresh start. Possibly back to the original lighter,innovative,offer alot for the money.

Again,60K will be a difficult sell as so many cars are in that price range that offer so much more.
Now,if Nissan wins Lemans(doubtful),they will copy what BMW is doing with their i series.
Hawk the new Z as having "features" from the Lemans winner.

Used 350&370's will go up in price as the Z dream will be affordable.

DavidZ370 03-24-2015 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by victort (Post 3146920)
yea... Even at 90, it still isn't close to 70. That's an extra 30% more

pre owned preeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee owneeeeeeeeeeedddddddd



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Davey 03-24-2015 06:25 AM

I've noticed most of the info about the Z35 is from Aug/Sept of last year and I have not seen anything new from Nissan... They just spent money re-doing the options packages for all models and changed the NISMO body kit...

I'll get to the point: I wonder if this car is really going away next year. There's no test mules, no concept car, not much info from Nissan... Makes me think we're at least 2 years out.

MagmaRed370z 03-24-2015 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3146853)
yah, the next z is priced $90k lol

lol:icon18:

MagmaRed370z 03-24-2015 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3147053)
I'll get to the point: I wonder if this car is really going away next year. There's no test mules, no concept car, not much info from Nissan... Makes me think we're at least 2 years out.


Either that or they are being very secretly about it.

brancky3 03-24-2015 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOUTHZZ (Post 3146928)
A new 370Z now is overpriced for what you get.

I disagree with this. My (base) 370z was <$30k brand new, there are little to no cars that compete with the Z at that price. Closest competitor is a 5.0 Mustang but I think the negatives outweigh the positives there :happydance:

kidkotic2001 03-24-2015 07:55 AM

Nope
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3146439)
Lets pretend that its out! And it costs 60k for the TwinTurbo Z35 making 450HP. Would you buy it?

Not a chance, might as well just save up a little more and get a Corvette, Porsche, or anything a top of the line Z28

Vichtz 03-24-2015 08:11 AM

^
This

You could get a preowned Z with low miles, any body modifications, any wheels, and pretty much any TT kit on the market and still come out with enough money to put a down payment on a house. Ill pass on 60K. Like its been said, pre-owned low miles GTR range for 60K...

MagmaRed370z 03-24-2015 12:47 PM

Besides being expensive, I am sure many of us here will tradein-sell our Z34 for the new Z35. The same thing happened when we had our 350z, we ended up trading it up for the 370z

Bshields22 03-24-2015 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 3146908)
The Z is meant to be an affordable sports car. 60k is just plain BS. I'm willing to bet the Z35 will start under 40k

Here, Here!

edk370 03-24-2015 12:55 PM

$60,000 is not a lot of money for a brand new, hipo car that pushes at least 400 hp. $100,000 is the "new expensive."


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