That's why we all have TWO kidneys; so we can sell one to get a new Z. :roflpuke2:

Why are you assuming they're just starting? The current Z has been out for 8 or 9 years. Don't you think they've been working during that time?

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And how is that relevant to this thread?

So Nissan should just cede the entire sports car segment, resigning itself only to selling a few thousand cars that cost 100k? BS.

Some of us prefer pure sports cars, not video games with massive amounts of computer aids, AWD, and zero feel. Not to mention the GT-R eats tires and brakes, massively increasing the cost of ownership.

We're in a Renaissance of muscle/sports cars and you think Nissan will have the 370Z out for almost 10 years and the succeeding model will be down on power? What are you smoking?

It also doesn't hurt that people are using what's happened every time in the past with regard to engines between the Infiniti and Nissan cars as a gauge to what's likely to happen this time as well.

Not really fair there since the Z is getting long in the tooth - of course it's sales numbers will lag compared to when it came out. Other manufacturers have had nearly a DECADE to one-up it!

Nissan have been working on the next Z for a little while now, if anyone saw the Jay Leno episode he went to the Nissan headquarters where he was in the Z department and the sketch artists and designers were talking to him and showing him a few sketches...

Nissan isn't going to pay people to sit and draw for fun... Its in the works as we have heard from head Nissan Execs that the Z will live "forever" now of course money changes the word forever if sales died completely or Nissan went out of business BUT Nissan has made it thus far.

They also have the ability with the modular chassis and the V6TT engine to make a 3000 pound car plus or minus a few pounds and even up the boost slightly to have a 415-430hp engine in the Z (VR30DTT only uses 14.5 pounds currently I believe). That power to weight ratio would put them in a slight niche in a good way.----
1. That engine I believe already gets 31MPG on the Q50. With a Z weighing 600-700 pounds less than a Q50 the gas mileage highway could exceed 34mpg.
2. The handling and braking on a car so light would put it worlds ahead of a mustang, Camaro and other "competition".
3. The car would be a track monster while maintaining practicality of great fuel economy.

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That's what a lot of 350Z owners said and look how much nicer the 370Z is than the 350Z. Don't be that guy. :bowrofl:

I have it on good authority that your **** is already pink (depending on which definition of "****" we're using).

I like how you think - SOLD!

Z34 sales were abysmal after the first year. It underperformed their targets from the beginning. The total number of Z34s sold was less than one year of 350 sales. They launched a good sports car right in the beginning of a recession and then the competition got much better.

Same thing happens to the miata after they release a new model if you've ever looked at their sales figures....first 2 years sell well and then drop off sharply thereafter


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Yes, but even with a sharp dropoff, the Miata still moves a lot of units.

The second year wasn't too bad. They sold about 10,512.

Wow you're right - I don't even get that. I didn't even consider a Z until the 370Z came out, as the 350Z was butt-ugly IMO. So strange that a better-looking, faster and with upgrades all around sold worse than the 350Z. :eek:

yea it started to doo poorly in sales but it was launched right into a recession for the major target market.

not to mention by time the economy and middle class had more disposable income and the revival of the murican muscle cars with their huge improvements over the older generation... yea... :ugh2:

The VQ was maxed out on power. You needed F.I. or a stroker kit to get power out of it. Muscle had brand new engines and multi-million dollar ad campaigns. Shortly after, in 2012, everything began turning F.I. ASk the Nissan refresh was considered weak.

On paper the Z was falling behind and the mainstream media was focusing on paper stats. The Z appeared to be technologically inferior.

The Z still felt better behind the wheel than all its competitors despite its shortcomings.

The next Z I believe will show & prove.

I agree, it's reminding me of 95/96 with the Z32 but for slightly different reasons. Those cars did not sell that well due to the outrageous pricing for the time mainly, so the car took a hiatus for 7 years to give Nissan plenty of time to think of a new strategy to come up with a highly successful Z33 a better price point. The Z34 is not successful do to low sales, different economy and pretty much minor updates over it's production run that has made it stale in may peoples eyes, every other car has been updated and has much more technology on board. I can see another hiatus coming or it being dropped totally unfortunately, even though it's intended as a low production product it has not met it's predicted low number of sales.

Nissan didn't have the upcoming next generation modular chassis to be able to make multiple style cars with a Lego style chassis. There's a distinct possibility this will be the new chassis. Being modular means the likelihood of the Z being a global platform is high, keeping costs even lower Also the cost of computers are SEVERELY lower than the 90's. You can't really compare the two eras as the way production is managed is on a level of efficiency that makes the 90's ancient.

Besides, Nissan was pushing a brand new and up and coming brand called infiniti that was competing with two other up and coming brands, Acura & Lexus that was draining there pockets as well.on top of the yen situation....


So many perspectives to look from.

Yesterday, I was reading the new August issue of Automobile magazine and the cover had a picture of z35. Does anyone have that issue that can scan the article?

Cover looks like this:

Yeah I read that magazine when I was at the grocery store... my 15 min grocery trip turned into an hour! Haha

It gives a couple photos and talks about the Z35. The picture isn't an official concept though which is mildly frustrating. I saw the 350z concept in person in 02 and it was VERY close to the real 350z they made...

This photo may be Nissan testing the waters with one sketch but it slightly contradicts them bring in old 240z ques as that Z looks more futuristic with no retro style from the 240z....

I should get ready to go into business to make a replacement grill as it seems that hideous grill keeps popping into every Nissan... first mod change the grill at the dealer before I drive off with that horrible grill haha!!

New bumper, new grill.

You guys are late to the party, look a few pages back, a member already posted the article from that magazine

Here's the post for all that didn't see:


http://www.the370z.com/3511142-post1992.html

At this point all we can do is hope and wish that it happens!

Let's hope the front bumper looks better. I want to stick with a carbon lip kit and not have to change an entire front if it's fugly. If a lip and new grill will make it look good that would be ideal... Please take note Nissan :)

Nissan- look at the Amuse, Airwalker, even the 2015 Nismo front bumper and take some notes.
1. Allow for a good size "Mouth" to showcase a front mount.
2. Have brake cooling side ducts or at least the visual appearance there are.
3. Don't use the same grill you use on the altima/maxima. A Nissan Emblem will suffice for people knowing it's a Nissan.
4. LED markers are good but don't make too much of a statement with them. If you do take note of the Lexus IS front LEDs that blend with the headlights well.
5. Have a front lip, make it functional and visually appealing.

Thanks Nissan for listening :) haha

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Better late then never lol great thanks:tiphat:

Yea....im not digging that front end.

The GTR refresh drawing looked like shyt. The GTR front in the end turned out great. I wouldn't worry about the front.

That design looks pretty good to me... that side shot looks especially nice. :tup:

Difference between now and then is that back in 96 Nissan was in financial trouble...that was before the Renault rescue.

Z32 was a great car but got a reputation as being miserable to work on and as you stated, it was priced way too high. Same thing killed the Supra. Funny thing is though...those old Z32 TT cars can be had for sub $10k for a decent one now, and a high mileage same vintage supra is going for well north of $20k in the used market.

I'm torn on which of those cars I like better......

I just sold my 1985 Z31 last week. They sold more of those that year than the entire run thus far of Z34s.

Hey guys, check this video out. It's the Q50 with the new VR30DTT motor that should be in the next Z. Remember when you watch this video the Z should be 400-600 pounds lighter and probably slightly more power!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpl27tFazRc&app=desktop

A couple notes I noticed, boost looks to kick in around 3K and tacs out around 6800ish rpms. The Guage literally jumps from 3K to 6k and he's rocking TCS on!! I know TCS on my 350z shut the throttle down to control traction.... so keep all I said in mind and now imagine this in a tiny 3000 pound car. I would of course get a manual. The gear ratios could be slightly different as well which could add even more.

This video you can hear the engine :) yum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4TIavQgY4Y

Cool videos! I'm concerned about "drive by wire" and hope that isn't part of the Z - we want MORE connection with the car not less.

One of the comments below the second video:

This bodes well indeed for the new Z using this powerplant!

I said Nissan was being conservative with BHP after seeing that 1/4 mile run.

they drop into a Z35 even with weight going up a bit that thing will fricking fly.