And the badges are just the Nissan emblem and Z logo. I think the new Z will just be called "Z".

The spoiler is a nice addition for sure.

I thought the steering wheel looked a bit big as well. Honestly I was hoping they'd make it more squared.
If this is a lower trim car sign me up. I don't think any trim will be under 400hp though. The new Supra has 382hp. This car needs that 400hp as a big selling point and just as an extra middle finger to Toyota. For a 400HP car the Akebonos are still plenty sufficient. Honestly, I think the GTR brakes would be overkill unless you're modding to get massive power.

LMAO- Swapping 400Z body panels onto a 370Z would be super costly and there will certainly be enough differences in ways panels attach to the chassis that it would be a major PITA.

The Supra has two different engines now-
2.0 liter four-cylinder turbo- 255 hp and 295 lb-ft
3.0 liter inline six-cylinder turbo- 382 hp and 365 lb-ft

I can easily see Nissan offering the Z with the same engine selection as the Q50/Q60 have- with the 300 hp and 400 hp versions of the 3.0L V6 twin turbo, but with slightly higher power levels on each. The base will not be lower than the existing 370Z's 332 hp. Expect around 340 hp for the base. The 400 hp version will probably be around 420 hp. I'm hearing 475 hp for the Nismo with all-wheel drive. Essentially a baby GT-R- when the GT-R was released in 2009, it was 480 hp with all-wheel drive (it's up to 565 hp now).

There will not be a 4-cylinder Z, and no Z under 30K.

There's no way it can be that light in weight.

May not necessarily be the case, when the base VR engine replaced the VQ engine in the Q50 for the 16 model year the base 300hp VR was rated with 28 less hp than its 328hp VQ predecessor.

Does anyone else get triggered every time you see "400Z"? It does me, has Nissan themselves refered to the new Z as "400Z"? It is a Fairlady Z, or just Z for short. The conventional number designation was for North American models only. Just my opinion, it will NOT have a "400Z" badge, because it is NOT a "400Z".

i do wonder if the kid at the shipping facility who leaked those photos still has a job?

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my question is who really cares what the name is?

like at this point is it important at all? we all call our cars a Z anyways for the most part.

lets focus on more important things such as power, weight, which AT is being used, can we get it without the ugly chrome katanas on the pillars, are the gtr brembos an option or just proto hype, etc...

If you look at the spy pics, the name badge is on the rear light panel on the passenger side. It looks like a big "Z" under the black tape, the tape is square. If it said "400Z" I would expect the badge to be much wider.

Maybe registers as "400Z" or "300Z" but just has a "Z" badge on the exterior?

Didn't someone "vomit" :roflpuke2: over the amber element in the headlight housing?

Just "Z" is the most likely name. If there are no numbers on these leaked cars, which appear to be completely finished production versions, it probably won't have any number nomenclature.

Also, I have a feeling there will be a lot of options:
-Roof, pillars, hatch, mirrors in black vs body color
On the silver car the pillars, roof, hatch, and mirrors are black while on the grey car they all match the grey body color. Also the top grille of the grey car appears to be body color (it's hard to tell in the video if the silver car had a body colored grille).

-4 piston Akebono or 6 piston GTR Brembo
Both leaked cars had red Akebonos brakes instead of the yellow GTR Brembos we saw on the Proto

-Gun metal or bronze wheels
Both had gun metal wheels, Proto had bronze wheels

-Interior colored stitching
I noticed these cars (at least the grey one) didn't have any colored stitching on the interior and the Z proto did.

-Carbon fiber exterior parts
These cars had black trim parts in place of the carbon diffuser, side skirts, and bottom lip (actually the 2 leaked cars didn't have a bottom lip attachment).

What if all of these things are options? And this is where I can see them making a lot of extra money as well. If we see the new Z starting anywhere from $35-39K, these options could easily bring it to low 50Ks and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a lot of Zs selling with a lot of options. And it would give Z enthusiasts the opportunity to really make their Z their own. It's probably wishful thinking, but wasn't it wishful thinking to think we'd get a new Z in the first place?

It not and never was 400z. That was an internet rumor from 6 years ago that all the click bait website have used since

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Ah yes, I remember the "380Z" and "390Z" articles now that I am thinking about it....

knowing nissan there will be like 6 versions to buy. look at the current mess of models. base, sport, tech, sport tour, nismo, nismo tech. even though i think they may have ditched the tech name stuff lately i havent looked in forever.

guess wait and see but the dates are all over the map and sadly i dont talk to any of my old insiders for info anymore.

I bet the body color etc will possibly be an option, since even the Maxima has the "floating roof".

The brakes, doubtful we'll get the GTR Brakes; That's probably a marketing thing to match the new/performance concept aspect of the car. a $7-8k carbon ceramic option would be insane for a sub $60k car.

BRONZEEEEEEEE wheels; most likely the Launch Edition option when released, which will become a regular option the following year

Interior color, doubt it. Most of the original 370z members (AK I think as well), did the Fabric marker approach, which we'll probably have to do, since the seats look the SAME as the 370z as well as the door panels, handles, and vents.

Carbon Fiber...idk...Seems like a launch edition thing or a Concept thing.

Link: ****************************insider-scoop-on-2022-nissan-z-msrp-pricing-packages-power-hp-weight-transmission-more/

Can you fix the link?
EDIT:nvm found it, was posted on the 400z forums

If that's production representative; I'm totally in for a test drive. The new Z may end up saving me $$$ the same way the 370Z did when it was going up against a used P-Car...

I would love to see the Sport version with the Brembos. It looks way better with the 6 pistons. Also I don’t want all black wheels.

The big question for me is that if they would fix the CSC problem on the Manual trans because it seems like they use the same trans of the 370z. How good is the new 9 speed AT?

I just sold my 370z recently and was looking at the C63 AMG. If the new Z is around $43k for the sport version, or $50k for the Nismo, I’ll definitely get one.

Wow! 35k plus a nice upgrade packed for $5k wow wow wow! I was not expecting that cheap honestly. If this is true Nissan knocked it out if the park. I wont be picking up one straight away because I just got my 370z but in a year or two yeah I definitely can see myself getting one for that price. Idk might just add a turbo to my car. But I am very excited about the prices if the leaks are true it's going to be a home run! Good job Nissan! I'm happy that this looks like it might just be successful and keep Nissan afloat.

i would take all that info with a massive grain of salt.

nissan hasn't come out with any actual info since the proto reveal last September.

they have not made 1 update since then, they have not given an actual release window, they haven't given any specs, etc...

they havent even actually confirmed that the VR30 (which we all know it has) will be the powerplant.

in my opinion nissan is failing majorly with this car. if they want it to sell they should be pushing updates and marketing to drive up sales. otherwise, this car will flop aside from the small group of Z people like us that will buy one.

Which is why I put if true in my comment. Honestly though sometimes leaks do more to drive hype than a straight press release. What will give you more articles and clicks no info or leaks for a year and then one press conference with everything. Or multiple small leaks over the course of a year gauging people's reaction, building hype, and getting free press? C'mon leaving the hood up on the car for people to see wasn't a mistake it was a calculated move. Not having the car shipped fully wrapped up was also a calculated move they wouldn't be dumb enough to ship it in a open shipping container with zero protection. Look at how the C8 was shipped it was wrapped fully in plastic that they could tell if it was tampered with.

Read this article how Apple purposefully leaks information for hype
https://www.macobserver.com/tmo/arti...trolled_leaks/

Don’t worry, it’s not. Nissan always lists DRY weight, which is meaningless but obviously makes them look better.

Unless the z35 has some amazing new jdm tech that allows it to run with no oil, no coolant, no brake fluid, no gas, etc, that number is meaningless

WET weight is what matters, the car, with full fluids. Add 100 lbs at least to that 3252 # and that’ll be where it really lands.

Our old ‘13 nismo iirc had a listed DRY weight of 3300 lbs. it’s actual WET weight was just over 3400 lbs.

With all the new safety tech etc that adds so much weight and the fact this is a heavily revised 370 fm platform, which itself was a revised 350z fm platform, a real weight of around 3350 lbs is very good. To go lighter you really need a bespoke chassis like caymans and 911s, or vette etc. that would make this car 10-20k more right out the gate and would kill sales.

I feel a $35k new car price will drive my 370Z Nismo price waaaay down. Could sell my car now for around $30k+. $5k more for a new car .... I have a feeling my car will drop to around $27’ish K.

I predict you are dead wrong, at least in the U.S. market. The 370Z didn't sell well in the U.S. for many reasons (none of which are for the reasons you mention). The new Z will sell worse than the 370Z, mark my words. Not just because the car isn't spectacular (its not), but because the current market just doesn't support such a car well.

Well as we know, aesthetics are purely in the eye of the beholder. I have always considered the 370Z as what a modern FWD poor mans Porsche would look like, and I say even after 12 years it still looks modern, fresh, and spectacular. This new Z, at least from pictures, looks like an attempt to take the front of a 240Z, a rear end of a 300ZX, and make it look like a poor mans Jag / Aston. I think they did a decent job at it. But in pictures it looks boring as hell. Not ugly, just boring. I'll hold final judgement until I see it in person. But for you to find the 370Z ugly and this car amazing enough to buy cracks me up. You must not like Porsches.

Well for the U.S. market, in the current HP wars market, it will be considered WAY lacking, one of the reasons this new car won't sell well at all.

WAYYYY better? What kind of weed are you smoking? It's merely an update on what was already a nice interior. They added new tech, and something had to give. WAYYYY better? Yet from what we have seen in pics, the door interiors are exactly the same, the center arm rest is basically the same, the 3 gauge cluster is basically the same, and so are the climate controls. You say its WAYYYY better, yet you would prefer an analog instrument cluster (as do I, hence why I like the 370 more than the new Z cluster). The 370Z has been a great interior since the beginning. Lacking modern gizmos doesn't change that. The new interior isn't WAYYYY better, its just slightly different to accommodate modern tech. People like you will be trashing this interior in 5 years just because it's missing some new tech or they haven't added some bright yellow stitching. I say a big whatever.

While you will be rushing out to buy the new Z, I think many people like me will not. I find it hard to believe a large number of current 370Z owners would switch just to switch. 350 to 370, for sure. 370 to (400), not so much. I think the largest contingent of buyers will be people like you, who skipped the 370, haven't had one for a while, or are all new to the market.

Of course, all just my opinion, as was your post.

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Wow, who pissed in your coffee this morning? Very salty opinions!

Perhaps you need to look in the mirror? If anyone's post was pissy and salty it was yours. Definitely trollish on what is a 370Z admirers forum.

Has there ever been such a thing as an "UGLY" Z car? I don't think so.

Get real.

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This is the "400Z" subforum.....I think those of us who are particularly attracted to the new Z can openly share our opinions of the Z34, as it relates to the Z35??

Did I go into general Z34 forums and bash the Z34? NO.

If you stated your opinion that any of my vehicles are ugly, I would care less.

I stated an opinion on the appearance of the 370Z, you made an accusation of someone being on drugs for having an opinion.

I think most people here don't mind one user saying the 370Z is ugly...not a big deal...just one person's opinion. Is there a rule that people can only say positive thing's about the subject of a forum?

We can disagree with others without resorting to accusations of drug use. I can see you take it very personally when someone calls your car ugly! Must suck to be so wrapped up in what others think of your car.

I don't know, those 2+2s weren't exactly pretty...lol. That said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

Accusations of drug use? A simple coin of phrase about smoking weed? Hilarious. You "crack" me up. Pun intended. This from a guy who's name is takemorepills. That in itself implies drug addiction, does it not? Talk about being overly sensitive and hypocritical. Geesh.

You obviously don't like my opinions, and I think yours stated above are mostly (I too prefer analog style gauges) complete nonsense. But if you expect me to just sit back and not rebuke your comments while you are "allowed" to spew anything you want, think again. You started the antagonism. Live with it.

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Man Nissan is really hurting they only sold 28 370z vehicles this year. I hope they can hold on long enough to make it to the launch. Honestly if they keep bleeding cash and can't get the car released ASAP we could see nothing more than a proto Z and the end of Nissan.

https://www.motor1.com/news/498327/n...-r-370z-sales/

Nah, they won't end until they release the Z. They've put enough hype and the $$ they have into the Z to cancel the launch. With the pictures of the Silver and Dark Grey Z's surfacing, its safe to assume those are the pre-production spec vehicles slated for the LA Nissan design center and then TN before getting into hands of the journalists. Its a good thing Nissan's top seller is the Rogue, that'll keep Nissan afloat along with their new Pathfinder for the time being until the new Z is released.

This is a trash article peddling misinformation. They sold only 28 370Zs in 2021 because there were probably only 28 new 370Zs left to sell as of Jan 1st this year.

In my last convo with a dealer manager, the final 2020 370Z rolled off the production line way back in June of 2020 (at least for North America). The remaining 2020 Z's sold out quickly this year and there are virtually none left nationwide in the US/Canada.

And many of them auto. Manuals are hard to find.

Ah that would explain it then good to know.

Unfortunately, 'journalism' as some of us used to know it, is dead and buried. What passes for 'journalism' is nothing more than 'writers' and 'news' websites struggling for web traffic. They put enormous pressure on 'writers' to drive traffic that the 'writers' are forced to make up 'news'. It's safe to say that you can ignore EVERYTHING you see in the media. :shakes head::shakes head:

O gosh what have they done! Who thought an almost completely blue interior should have been an option. Like I get what they are doing trying with the 240z theme but I don't think it works on the new Z but to each their own.
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https://i.imgur.com/Q8cBzJy.jpg

Honestly, I LOVE that blue! It's something flashy and different.

Gray or white with a blue interior would look great imo. Reminds me of the blue JDM Recaro interior of the Integra Type R.

The Supra had a red interior for the SE that looked sharp. The m240i has a coral red option too. The blue M2(2018 LCI w/ N55) I'm looking at though has fairly boring interior options. This blue in the Z may have put it on top!

https://carbuzz.com/news/leaked-new-...issan-z-emerge
New leaked pictures of the silver Z. According to the leaker the car is in Arizona.

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...930_n-jpg.596/
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...699_n-jpg.597/