Originally Posted by ZoomZ I like the Aria. Is this the ultimate replacement for the murano? It may be. I checked out a $62k sticker price Aria just last week.
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09-19-2023, 01:21 PM | #7111 (permalink) |
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I checked out a $62k sticker price Aria just last week. Its alright but certainly far from great. A lot of really cheap fake looking plastic inside. And the inside design is just okay, not great. They tried to think outside the box and failed IMO. This thing is no where near as good as a Murano. The best Murano overall was Gen 1 in 2003. This Aria, being 20 years in the future, doesn't hold a candle to what a stunner the Murano was in 2003.
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Yeah, the sticker price is stupid and having not really investigated the interior quality. I'll take your word for it and therefore price becomes even more ridiculous. I don't want an EV anyway. Some are just nice looking.
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yeah not to be an echo and derail this, but yeah, even if it's an EV...the Aria asking price sounds insane when you lay it over Infiniti/Lexus/Acura offerings. I've seen Leaf listings get to near $40k. Sure maybe some rebates put both cars in a more digestible price range, but like just a decade ago the Leaf was going dirt cheap compared to most everything else.
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I was unhappy with Nissan for not doing a full-fledged redesign to show what they're capable of, like with the 350Z's introduction and something that would really go after the GR Supra. Though I guess with production challenges in mind, maybe this chassis refresh was the right move at this time. |
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I don't think the Aria is a Nissan flop. I think it's a current generation of cars flop. It's simply too much money for what you get. But then again, I'm not used to this modern new car era either, where even a small Chevy Bolt can cost you $45k. It's a shitty time to have to buy a car, that's for sure. One more thing, about the outside. Like the new Cadillac I saw a few weeks ago, the *** end is all glam and huge, like a Kardashian ***. And like the Tesla 3 with its fugly black fan wheels, the wheels on the Aria I looked at were some of the most hideous wheels on a car I've ever seen. Just repugnant.
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Then they should have spent the time off getting Nissan back in order as a company. Then come out with an all new modern Z in say 2025. As it is, the new Z (not even a proper name as 3 dealers I've been to call it the 400Z), is a filler car to help aid and bridge a gap. Except I really think it was a waste of time. That's just my opinion of course, which means nothing in reality.
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I also can't stand when car mfg's turn car interiors into smart phones put everything in an iPad tablet style display. Drivers need fixed buttons for basic controls. Unfortunately the only alternative these days is an incredibly outdated interior where almost nothing has been updated. This one strikes a good balance. Pricing stinks in just about all new cars these days.. As for the exterior styling, when I first saw one, I really thought I was looking at a Lexus NX. It just looks like a typical SUV these days with some fresh lines, although I'm a bit worried that copper color will not age well. |
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It seems that the CEO/political troubles in the company dragged out the introduction of a new Z way longer than was needed. I mean the Project Clubsport 23 was already prepared by Nismo back in 2018. That Nismo 370Z fully equipped with a VR30DDTT, shows where the thinking was headed, but perhaps they couldn't organize internally to make it happen; https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...lubsport-sema/ So we got the "Nissan Z"/"400Z"/"RZ34", since the GR Supra's success required some answer as the aging 370Z specs could no longer compete. I really fully wanted/expected Nissan to introduce a proper answer, but it seems they were unable to with these (internal/external) challenges. My consolation is how few sports cars are on the market today. While the GR Supra is mostly BMW, Nissan is still producing their own sports car. But when I see the C8 Corvette and it's incredible ground-up design, I just imagine what kind of sports car Nissan would answer with if they really tried. |
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I also can't stand when car mfg's turn car interiors into smart phones put everything in an iPad tablet style display. Drivers need fixed buttons for basic controls. Unfortunately the only alternative these days is an incredibly outdated interior where almost nothing has been updated. This one strikes a good balance. Pricing stinks in just about all new cars these days.. As for the exterior styling, when I first saw one, I really thought I was looking at a Lexus NX. It just looks like a typical SUV these days with some fresh lines, although I'm a bit worried that copper color will not age well. |
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Came across this on one of the FB forums. Won't lie - it definitely makes me curious about the Nismo and seems like they are trying to deliver a car we all want. Still-the price is too rich for my blood - but then again - it feels like EVERY car is super expensive now days.
TITLE from Road & Track The NISMO Z is the Best Nissan in a Decade (Even if it is Missing a Clutch Pedal) https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews...RTKwahPdyJ8-Dk |
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I can't believe its actually heavier than my 19 1SS at 3685 lbs. Not by much but still...wow.
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It amazes me how heavy vehicles are becoming now. It seems like they are getting bigger and bigger. And the answer to items getting heavier seems to make it have more HP to ‘balance things out’ - but yeah, agree - its amazing how heavy vehicles are becoming.
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09-27-2023, 02:43 AM | #7125 (permalink) |
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Motor1 released the base price of the Nismo, what apparently starts out at ~$66K. I'm not sure how reliable the source is...
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