[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

1/4atatime

The new Z isn't using EPS it's using DAS which is the worst version of electric steering.

New Z specs

"Vehicle speed-sensitive electric power steering"

Q60 DAS:
"With the DAS system, steering effort gradually increases with vehicle speed and lateral G,"

https://global.infinitinews.com/en/c...9ae80d78022898

Nissan obviously is burying the fact that their using DAS (due to being known to be terrible steering) since you have to go dig up their technically definition of their DAS to even understand the specifications on the new Z

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SeeThruHead

Seeing how the 370z was 30k new in canada (23,628.56 USD) 40k usd seems overpriced for what you get.

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tvfreakazoid

The base here in the USA in the beginning was 29k if I'm not mistaken.
I guess inflation is a bitch lol.

I'll be in my bunk!

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viiv

Exactly! But if the new Z was 30k, it would force the value of even a 2020 370Z down to probably 20k or lower. Like when the 370Z came out, 350Z owners took a huge hit on their resale values because the new model was the same price as the old one. However, for us 370Z owners, we won't be taking any such hit this time around.

Since the new Z is going to be 45k+ CAD, it means you can still sell your Z for the same 30k or more you can sell them for today.

It's like Nissan was actively trying to preserve and protect the resale value for Z34s.

JARblue

A 370Z base model was still $29K just a few years ago tho

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zeeder

Agreed, and I was hoping for a $35k staring price, as well, but knowing that it's still priced similarly to the 350 makes it a little easier to swallow...lol. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be in the market for a new one for a couple years and I'll be loving my 370 until I'm ready. I just got back into the Z so I'm not in the same position as others who have been driving it for years, or a decade, and are exhausted by the wait.

I'm hoping that the changes that were made will make it feel worth the increased price and that it sells well so it's still on sale, or at least has plenty of used options, when I'm ready...lol. That said, the telescoping steering wheel's siren song may be too much and will have me upgrading before I should?!

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Ghostvette

I'm on the fence. I'd love to get the new Z, but I'll definitely wait a couple of model years before I pull the trigger. It will be interesting to see what will swap over, I may just pick up a tele-column and put it in mine, if it fits. My current car has about 27K on the clock and I'm in no hurry to replace it.

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zeeder

My assumption is that the EPS is what enabled them to do the telescoping wheel but, hopefully, it'll be swappable. I bought my car with 76k on the clock and I'm about to hit 80k but everything still feels tight as a drum and I'll be replacing bits with upgraded parts as they fail, or as I have the money/desire.

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Ghostvette

There are several older cars that have tilt/tele columns that don't have electronic power steering. My 2005 Malibu had EPS and it was a pain in the backside. It would intermittently quit working while I was driving and the only way to reset it was to stop the car, turn off the engine & restart. Then when it came time for alignment, part of the setup is to sweep the steering wheel left to right to center the wheels. Doing that would set a check engine light and the idiots aligning the car wanted to charge me extra $$ to 'diagnose' the light.

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takemorepills

Wrong assumption. My 2014 Infiniti Coupe has POWERED tilt/telescope wheel, you could bolt it right into a similar generation Z if you wanted to as the Infiniti is just a 370ZX 2+2.

Nissan was just being cheap with the 370Z on that.

SeeThruHead

I guess the US got screwed on Z prices. After looking into it
nissan gave the canadian 370z a 10k price cut in 2016

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takemorepills

Let's put the price of the new Z into perspective.

Everyone saying it is overpriced, consider how much a 370Z was....

Then go out and add turbochargers to it. Tell me how much that costs.
Some turbo kits ridiculously mount their turbo and filter UNDER the car
All turbo kits require futzing with the fuel delivery system.
May as well upgrade your clutch, it's gonna need it.
If you have a 7AT, well get ready to double your costs.
A boosted VQ has no inherit advantage over the VR30, in fact, plenty of people have killed many VQ motors just with improper tuning.
So, what's all that cost for a MT car? At least $12K if you can do most of the work yourself? $20K minimum for a completed car out of a shop?
And annoying check engine lights, aftermarket parts that break constantly, you are at the mercy of non-OEM workmanship, many of these turbo kits run iffy turbos......
What a headache.
So, a "Sport" Z may cost $10K more than a base 2021 370Z?
To be fair, although there's not a NISMO Z for 2023, I think it is fair to say the 2023 Z Performance will obviously beat the 2021 3710Z Nismo in a drag race and probably be very close on a track, if not slightly superior due to all of the available power, for $5K more than the 370Z NISMO.

Add in that if you prefer automatic and still want boost, you're better off getting the 2023 Z or Q60 RS with the appropriately beefed up automatic. The VQ 7AT just can't handle the power.

I seriously considered boosting my 2014 Infiniti Coupe, but after seeing all of the headaches associated with all of the countless things that need to happen to even hope to have a sorted car, I just decided it is much better to buy the 2023 Z.

jae35

In to see if they've fixed the slave cylinder yet lol

ZoomZ

Whats the usefulness of the Turbine speed gauge on a production road car? Again, the triple gauge cluster wasted on useless info. (boost ok)

Specially if available on the digital display anyway.

JARblue

It was pretty useful in the Chrysler Turbine

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