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Originally Posted by takemorepills The Q60 starts in the low 40's. Are you thinking the new Z will be priced the same as a Q60? It's the Q60 with 300hp

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Old 11-11-2020, 08:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Q60 starts in the low 40's.

Are you thinking the new Z will be priced the same as a Q60?
It's the Q60 with 300hp that starts in the low 40's.
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It's the Q60 with 300hp that starts in the low 40's.
Right. The new 300Z will likely be offered with very similar VR30 tunes as the Q60. This Japanese source confirmed the pricing of the upcoming VR-powered JDM Fairlady: [OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

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Estimated pricing for the Z was just dropped on a Japanese car magazine
https://bestcarweb.jp/news/scoop/206414
■ New Fairlady Z Estimated price
● Base grade (304ps) /4.5 million yen ~$42k USD
● Version S (304ps) / 5 million yen ~$47k USD
● Version T (304ps) / 5 million yen ~$47k USD
● Version ST (405ps) / 6 million yen ~57k USD
● NISMO (405) ~ 450ps) / 7 million yen. ~66k USD


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Interesting! I tried to figure out the MSRP of the current Fairlady Z in Japan, all I could find was that they start around $40K when converted to USD. I think they may be more money in Japan. I would expect US MSRP to be lower.

EDIT, I figured out the Japanese website: https://www3.nissan.co.jp/vehicles/n...30rst000000020

Looks like the VR Z will be only slightly more than the VQ Z.
Current VQ Z pricing:
S is 4.85 million yen
ST is 5.3 million yen
Nismo is 6.52 million yen

So, approximately 6-8% more than the VQ car.


It appears that the rumored JDM VR30 pricing is approx 6-8% higher than equivalent JDM Z34 pricing, as it seems the JDM trim levels are fairly comparable between Z34 and Z35. Also note that the JDM rumor also agrees with the opinion of many of us that there will likely be 3 versions of the VR30: 300HP-ish, 400HP-ish, something-more-ish for a NISMO.

The 300HP VR30 Q60 starts at $42.7K

That would mean the new 300Z that has the same 300HP VR30 could very likely be under $36K base. The Q60 has nearly 700 pounds of more "stuff" than a Z car.

If I were on a budget, a 300HP VR30 300Z would be a great starting point. May seem like less power than a VQ37, but it has more overall power, and the tuning options are strong with this version of the VR30.

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does anybody remember the project clubsport 23, sema 2018, they stuff a 3.0-liter twin-turbo V6 found in the Infiniti Q50 400 Red Sport in it..
might this had been the start of the next Z, like can this be done, and then with the Z pronto showing a lot of 370z in

Just wondering
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does anybody remember the project clubsport 23, sema 2018, they stuff a 3.0-liter twin-turbo V6 found in the Infiniti Q50 400 Red Sport in it..
might this had been the start of the next Z, like can this be done, and then with the Z pronto showing a lot of 370z in

Just wondering
Yes. They said they started this project about 4 yrs ago

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I talked to my informant from Nissan this past weekend at the track. I asked him if had any information on the automatic transmission for the new Z and he smiled and said yes but I can't tell you anything about it and then he paused and said what I can tell you is that it will not be anything that is on their vehicles at this time. He suspects that because it is something new there will be issues to sort through. Nothing new about that.

He stated that he and others are pushing and politicking Nissan to also offer the Nismo with a manual transmission as well. That is all I have for now. If I am at the next tack day I will pump him for more information.

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I talked to my informant from Nissan this past weekend at the track. I asked him if had any information on the automatic transmission for the new Z and he smiled and said yes but I can't tell you anything about it and then he paused and said what I can tell you is that it will not be anything that is on their vehicles at this time. He suspects that because it is something new there will be issues to sort through. Nothing new about that.

He stated that he and others are pushing and politicking Nissan to also offer the Nismo with a manual transmission as well. That is all I have for now. If I am at the next tack day I will pump him for more information.

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intriguing.

so it's not a DCT i think we can all agree they wouldnt do that.

it's def not the same 7AT from the 370/Q60....thankfully.

and then it's also not their new 9 speed per that comment.

you had my curiosity nissan. now you have my attention lol
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After reading your comment it reminded me that he did say it would have more gears than the current 7 speed so it may be a variant of the nine speed.

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After reading your comment it reminded me that he did say it would have more gears than the current 7 speed so it may be a variant of the nine speed.

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Pretty sure it will be a variant of the 9 speed that nismo is tweaking for the new Z.
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Pretty sure it will be a variant of the 9 speed that nismo is tweaking for the new Z.
I was assuming that the Q60 would be getting the 9AT, but at least for 2021, Nissan/Infiniti has retained the 7AT for the 2021MY Q60. Ugh. However, reviews of the 2021 Q50/Q60 have been praising the 7AT....when those same reviews from 2016 said the 7AT wasn't very good. Maybe Nissan/Infiniti fixed the 7AT programming? Finally? Mechanically nothing wrong with the 7AT, it's the shift logic that has always been terrible.

Reviews of those same 2021 Infinitis also mention that the EPS is MUCH better than before.
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This might be more proof that the new Z will have GTR brakes on the production version.

370z front GTR Caliper bracket

I wouldn't be surprised at all if we end up finding out Z1 helped build most of the new Z from a fabrication perspective. It actually is really smart on Nissan's part. Get a big name Z shop to do work for you on new parts cut out large scale manufacturing cost and get aftermarket parts made for the 370z and the new Z at the same time. I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if we see Z1 selling a 370z to 400z motor swap conversion kit.
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This might be more proof that the new Z will have GTR brakes on the production version.

370z front GTR Caliper bracket

I wouldn't be surprised at all if we end up finding out Z1 helped build most of the new Z from a fabrication perspective. It actually is really smart on Nissan's part. Get a big name Z shop to do work for you on new parts cut out large scale manufacturing cost and get aftermarket parts made for the 370z and the new Z at the same time. I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if we see Z1 selling a 370z to 400z motor swap conversion kit.
They have also had AMS doing stuff on the Infiniti side with the VR motor. Extensively. Tons of parts available that allow you to retain warranty if you have the dealer install them. Nissan has been heavily active with both of those shops - Z1 even stood up an offroad arm to help out with the Titan, and they built that dually concept for SEMA. The Titan Warrior concept was even at Z1 HQ for a while (and still may be there, IIRC).

Re: the motor swap kit, I was under the impression that this was under development at Z1 for some time now, but it went quiet. That talk was possibly a smokescreen for development of the new Z, and the timeline matches up with that.
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After reading your comment it reminded me that he did say it would have more gears than the current 7 speed so it may be a variant of the nine speed.

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Not in a fanboy war context, it's pretty fascinating to pick up on these co-developments to see how Nissan is making this possible in contrast with Toyota.

I still am not completely set with the looks, an the promos can be a bit hollow/redundant, but the fact the PR team is putting in work is great imo. I mean knowing Nissan has an uphill climb, it's nice seeing them make the push here.

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It is, but it's also time for some details. You can only talk about design for so long.
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It is, but it's also time for some details. You can only talk about design for so long.
I agree where are our specs? Nothing at the original press conference at all and still nothing now. I know they are pretty much known but I want to hear it from the horses mouth. IDK the fact that they aren't excited enough to at least act like they want to give us details and HP numbers or 0 to 60 times or even price worries me a little that they don't have a lot of confidence that the new Z will stack up against it's competitors. That or they are going to have to push it's release back further than they thought they would which won't help either considering the Supra is already looking to roll out a faster more powerful model.
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