[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

JARblue

So you're saying I should just start hoarding gas now? I've got a bunch of empty coffee cans that should be good for years of gas storage

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ZoomZ

They haven't built or IMO, ever be able to build, LARGE Electric commercial Aircraft. Dino fuel will be around for them for years to come. Unless Greta gets her way.

I'm sure 100 years from now, the "super" battery will exist. Maybe then, large commercial electric planes will be viable. We will be Dino oil ourselves by then.

z-ya-later

Interview with Alfonso Albaisa of Nissan on Road&Track. Proto Z talk starts at 10:50. Nice pic of the Proto Z from the rear in the grey color at 18:18. Host tries to get some engine info out of Alfonso but he doesn't bite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IydY7-PGwdk

FL 4Motion

As stated by ricerx, eventually gas will just be priced to the point ice vehicles are just priced out of the market bc it’s to $$ to fuel them as well as too hard to even find gas stations.

The $$ and the majority of the population in this country is urban and suburban, not rural. Not enough people and not enough people with $$ to care about rural transportation issues. Sh1t, the republicans bitch about subsidized airports and flights to connect rural areas and the democratics couldn’t give two sh1ts if POVs go away so I think we know how this is going to go.

My hope, and I’m bullish on this, is that battery tech will advance enough to mitigate at least some of this.

Hydrogen fuel cell planes, problem solved. Just need to figure out how to produce hydrogen for the fuel cells on a mass production level without using fossil fuels. That’ll happen eventually.

The BIGGEST issue imo with this inevitable move to electric cars etc, is that it’s happening hand in hand with the autonomous car push. Have any of you noticed that over the last 10 years or so there’s been a concerted push in all subjects, esp driving, that emphasizes how “dangerous” humans are and how we can’t be trusted to make decisions. Sh1t, there’s even sentencing algorithms for court cases now so apparently we may not need judges at some point.

/\ my worry isn’t what tech powers my Jeep or car, my worry is will I still be able to legally drive my fvcking autos myself or will we outlaw our constitutionally unenumerated right to freedom of movement?

zeeder

If you get a few DUIs, the government will, happily, remind you that driving an automobile is a privilege and not a right...lol. You're free to move about in other forms of transportation though.

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FI catback, HFC, and Start Button - Z1 Intake - Nismo S-Tune Spoiler - PasswordJDM V2 Shift Knob

FL 4Motion

You completely missed my point.

Irresponsible actions can and should have consequences, such as driving under the influence.

The issue is that just being a human driver is starting to be considered too big a risk and that is the problem.

Freedom is inherently risky, perceived safety should never come at the expense of freedom. Especially when powerful corporate and political interests benefit at the expense of individual liberty.

JARblue

Let's not be blind to the fact that the push for autonomous and electric vehicles is not pursuant to greater safety or less environmental impact. This is only about the almighty dollar. Those other arguments are simply mechanisms for convincing consumers the change necessary so corporations can push policy changes. Consumers are already bad enough about letting their freedoms get taken away, so there's not a lot of hope for the long term. My only hope is that the logistics of a full transition to electric and autonomous vehicles is complicated enough that it happens after my lifetime (I think I'm good ).

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ZoomZ

Well said.

Reminds me of the Plastic Industries push for the use of plastic instead of paper, glass etc.. They convinced everyone of the positives of plastic and it was the plastic industry that invented "recycling".

As we have learned now, MANY plastic are NOT recyclable. Not to mention toxic.

ZZ

Andaesthetics

The best photos and video anywhere yet.

Zeetah

When is this piece of **** 400z coming to Canada?

Zingston

BoneZ

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Andaesthetics

https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/de...2-938396acce49

Patents filed for the AU. Keep in mind the US spec could be slightly different as regulations are quite the same. show what appears to be the production model of the new Z. Basically exactly like proto. Few differences I noticed is the in the front grille you can a what looks like a cruise control radar, along with some sensors at the front and rear (possibly blind spot monitor sensors), keyhole for the trunk, keyhole and lock/unlock button for the drivers side door, and rear side markers. If I missed anything feel free to add.

EDIT: I could be wrong, but I just noticed after looking at the front again it looks like they added some kind of a body panel behind the grille to hide the big rectangle look!

Credit for find:https://jalopnik.com/patents-show-ni...pro-1846057141

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Andaesthetics

I made a quick sh*tty sketch, but you get the idea. I believe they added that recessed part behind the upper grille after all the backlash about the huge rectangular gap in the grille when look at it straight on.

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takemorepills

That patent drawing is exactly the same as the Proto Z. Because it's blacked out, you don't notice the filled-in part that is for the bumper beam.

Your rendering looks exactly how the car would look after Maaco forgets to tape off the black area.