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tx11 06-18-2022 12:28 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...ipes-etc.1256/

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Firebase99 06-18-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4026511)
Oh it will. But even at its lowest setting it will still be too overall bright for my tastes. Only if the screen is OLED does it stand a chance with me. And yes, I'm picky. Just ask my wife.

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My girl is like that, she turns the screen off when she drives it at night. Doesnt bother me though. Different folks...all that.

Firebase99 06-18-2022 01:59 PM

No thanks, Supra or Z4 for me, used C7 Z06,

Bonzo 06-19-2022 11:22 AM

$90 for USB charging cable set? Are they flipping kidding me? Kick plates went up about $100 right? A 33% bump is kinda steep. And all those extra costs for paint. Who do they think they are, Porsche or BMW?

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SophiaZ 06-19-2022 12:10 PM

Dual racing stripe?!! Did I miss something?

viiv 06-19-2022 04:17 PM

Passion Red is now $1695? That's a huge price increase almost 2.5x. I paid $750 Canadian for mine.

Bonzo 06-19-2022 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 4026526)
Dual racing stripe?!! Did I miss something?

Perhaps they are trying to lure Mustang owners away from Ford?

Yet another thing I'm not a fan of. Racing strips that is. Never seen a street car that didn't look better without them. JMO.

But hey, at least they are an option. Can you imagine if Nissan said if you want the white car it must come with red racing strips, AND charge more for like, like they are doing with the black roof.

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SteveVQ 06-20-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99 (Post 4026517)
No thanks, Supra or Z4 for me, used C7 Z06,

Used C7 Z06 for $50k lol. Used versions of the C7 Z06 are still $70k to $80K.

Best bet for a C7 is a used C7 Grand Sport within the $45k to $55K range with less than 40k miles typically.

New Manual Supra tho.....:excited:

MZ DAIZY 06-20-2022 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4026524)
$90 for USB charging cable set? Are they flipping kidding me? Kick plates went up about $100 right? A 33% bump is kinda steep. And all those extra costs for paint. Who do they think they are, Porsche or BMW?

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$90 for an optional charging cable!!!! Yea, I’m out.... thanks for putting things in perspective. :eek:

vtecchippy 06-23-2022 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4026597)
$90 for an optional charging cable!!!! Yea, I’m out.... thanks for putting things in perspective. :eek:

No doubt, if he hadn't pointed that out, I might've bought this car. :rofl2:

But $90 would kill my bank account, and paying extra for interior options that increased with material cost and inflation simply won't do. They better comp their 2009 price model or they'll never move one.

I shouldn't have to add the disclaimer that this is all said in sarcasm, but just in case my humor's a bit too dry for some. ;)

tx11 06-24-2022 12:05 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...e-2#post-36705

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...-jpg-jpg.9686/
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...-jpg-jpg.9687/
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...u1-1-jpg.9688/

SophiaZ 06-24-2022 08:42 PM

I spoke with a local Nissan dealership earlier today and even tho they don’t know when it’ll be released, the salesman said all Nissan Dealerships will have ONE on their lot but it’s basically a display only, no test drives. He is guessing around Fall for that one to be around. So, what’s the point in that? I seen it in person at the car show in February…totally stupid if you ask me, but I understand not everyone went to the car shows.

DLSTR 06-25-2022 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 4026760)
I spoke with a local Nissan dealership earlier today and even tho they don’t know when it’ll be released, the salesman said all Nissan Dealerships will have ONE on their lot but it’s basically a display only, no test drives. He is guessing around Fall for that one to be around. So, what’s the point in that? I seen it in person at the car show in February…totally stupid if you ask me, but I understand not everyone went to the car shows.

It’s a traffic generator helping to draw customers in and who will most likely buy an SUV that actually makes money for dealer and Nissan

Bonzo 06-25-2022 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ (Post 4026760)
I spoke with a local Nissan dealership earlier today and even tho they don’t know when it’ll be released, the salesman said all Nissan Dealerships will have ONE on their lot but it’s basically a display only, no test drives. He is guessing around Fall for that one to be around. So, what’s the point in that? I seen it in person at the car show in February…totally stupid if you ask me, but I understand not everyone went to the car shows.

If that's what your dealer wants to do, okay, its their call. Its not a Nissan thing, its a dealer thing. Just as there will be some dealers selling their cars over sticker, there will be others selling at or even below sticker. Each dealer will do it how ever they want. Much of it depends on allowcation. Some dealers will get 5 cars, while others will get none. Some will allow test drives, and some won't. All dealers decision, not Nissan.

We went through this entire process in 2005 when it came time to order my wife's Pontiac Solstice. Talk about a hot commodity. Much like when the C8 first came out. This new Z car will not have nearly the hype surrounding those 2 cars. My suggestion would be to wait until production year 2 and buy one then for 3 grand under sticker.

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SeeThruHead 06-25-2022 01:00 PM

**** dealerships. time for them to go the way of the dinosaurs.

MZ DAIZY 06-25-2022 06:34 PM

Needs a black roof. Just saying...:stirthepot:

Bonzo 06-25-2022 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4026777)
Needs a black roof. Just saying...:stirthepot:

And needs way better looking non-1980s Camaro looking wheels. Stirthepot.

But it does look better without that stupid afterthought straight edge spoiler. Cleaner without it.

And I like the color. Too bad Nissan paint quality typically sucks.

Looks way better without the black roof. Stirthepot.

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MZ DAIZY 06-26-2022 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4026781)
And needs way better looking non-1980s Camaro looking wheels. Stirthepot.

But it does look better without that stupid afterthought straight edge spoiler. Cleaner without it.

And I like the color. Too bad Nissan paint quality typically sucks.

Looks way better without the black roof. Stirthepot.

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LOL!! You do realize that “straight edge spoiler” is actually functional, doncha? Just kidding, of course you don’t. No offense, but this is getting old. We get it. You hate it. Time to move on.

Bonzo 06-26-2022 10:06 PM

Not worth discussing.

JARblue 06-27-2022 03:37 PM

That rosewood color is on point :yum:

abm89 06-27-2022 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 4026820)
That rosewood color is on point :yum:


That is pretty nice. I would have been tempted to go for my first ever red car with the Passion Red Tricoat. It looks close to Soul Red.

markesc 06-30-2022 06:25 PM

I love it, but!! I would want to keep my FI exhaust and 2014 Sport wheels/tires...

As far as paint goes - a clearbra on the entire hood / front bumper was well worth it

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 4026798)
LOL!! You do realize that “straight edge spoiler” is actually functional, doncha? Just kidding, of course you don’t. No offense, but this is getting old. We get it. You hate it. Time to move on.


wheelspeed 07-04-2022 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4026805)
Not worth discussing.

Seriously. Is there any news? I'm 98% ready to just pay $32,000 for a '17 370z. ($35k out the door). Feels stupid if a nice 400z comes out with full warranty and maybe some improvements for like $45k, but am so bored of waiting. I like the BRZ also but not doing it because they're not available unless a long wait and I'm just not into that. Looking like same with 400z.

Bonzo 07-05-2022 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wheelspeed (Post 4026990)
Seriously. Is there any news? I'm 98% ready to just pay $32,000 for a '17 370z. ($35k out the door). Feels stupid if a nice 400z comes out with full warranty and maybe some improvements for like $45k, but am so bored of waiting. I like the BRZ also but not doing it because they're not available unless a long wait and I'm just not into that. Looking like same with 400z.

You are asking the wrong guy as I am being ridiculed here for my opinions. As go forums like this. Oh well.

But I'll lay it out with the plus sides only.

All JMO of course.

New Z
- Faster
- 9 Speed auto
- More electronic gadgets
- 2 center arm rest cup holders
- Exact same upper body shape as 370 Z (front window, A pillars, side windows, B pillers, with same slope to rear hatch)
- New car warranty

370 Z
- Better looking body (subjective)
- Shorter
- Better looking wheels (less subjective)
- Better sex appeal for picking up chics (easily)
- Better looking steering wheel (by far)
- No "forced down our throat and more costly 2 tone paint schemes"
- More reliable engine (fact)
- Old school hydraulic steering assist (more sports car feel)
- Hard to believe but stock exhaust actaully sounds better (subjective)
- Less electronic gadgets
- Better 5 tiered pricing structure with Nismo option
- Will be a classic desired car in the future, only second to the original 240 Z

That's what I can think of at the moment.




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SteveVQ 07-06-2022 02:28 PM

How would you feel paying $55k for a new Z only to get beat by the old NA one with some boltons on it :stirthepot:

According to this site: https://calculator.academy/whp-to-hp...tor/#f1p1|f2p0
400hp is only 340whp.

Most of us with basic boltons and tune are 10 or less whp away from that already and we weigh less. :tup:


Edit: Unless the new Z comes out with underrated hp of course.:eekdance:

NecioVato 07-06-2022 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveVQ (Post 4027038)
How would you feel paying $55k for a new Z only to get beat by the old NA one with some boltons on it :stirthepot:

According to this site: https://calculator.academy/whp-to-hp...tor/#f1p1|f2p0
400hp is only 340whp.

Most of us with basic boltons and tune are 10 or less whp away from that already and we weigh less. :tup:


Edit: Unless the new Z comes out with underrated hp of course.:eekdance:

I don't believe that will be the case - with that torque that the new Z offers - it will get to 60 much faster than a FBO NA 370z. For instance (believe he has his story on here as well) Noir winded up doing a Q60 Motor swap - and even having a boost leak - he was beating FBO Z's by busses. I get what you are saying - the amount to buy the new Z vs keeping one that is already pretty quick (quick/speed is all relative) - but I don't believe a FBO Z would keep up with a stock Z with the torque and the HP advantage. Just my .02

Firebase99 07-07-2022 03:48 PM

I could really get on board with the new Z styling if this were production models, sans park bench wing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5M2cDnOFFc

Bonzo 07-10-2022 06:33 PM

Changed my mind and got a sweet deal on a yellow Z Proto today.

Still hate the black roof. Stir Pot.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0b40c466b0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2ea0b2e396.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...10ddf48e72.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2d77ec1e52.jpg

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Zingston 07-10-2022 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4027214)



That's so "Factory Fresh!". I knew you'd come around... even with that black roof. LOL!

MZ DAIZY 07-12-2022 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4027214)

Yea, but those 80’s Camero IROC rims! :stirthepot:

Zingston 07-12-2022 02:44 PM

IROC rims, so hot right now!

tx11 07-12-2022 11:14 PM

New 2023 Nissan Z Brochure (More photos in the link)
 
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...brochure.1292/

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...a1-jpeg.10096/

OptionZero 07-13-2022 05:03 PM

huh, they're offering the 57CR Clubsports that were (formerly) exclusive to Z1

everything in that catalog can be purchased cheaper outside the dealership

Bonzo 07-14-2022 12:41 PM

Those wheels might be great for performace and or racing because they are light, but they are ugly as hell. Black makes it worse. I wouldn't give 2 cents for those things, let alone put them on my car.

Different strokes for different folks.

And why is a guy on the other forum surprised about a cargo cover? We have been told the interior in back is 100% the same as the 370Z, so why WOULDN'T a cargo cover be available. They can just keep making the same one as before.

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SeeThruHead 07-14-2022 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4027373)
Those wheels might be great for performace and or racing because they are light, but they are ugly as hell. Black makes it worse. I wouldn't give 2 cents for those things, let alone put them on my car.

Different strokes for different folks.

And why is a guy on the other forum surprised about a cargo cover? We have been told the interior in back is 100% the same as the 370Z, so why WOULDN'T a cargo cover be available. They can just keep making the same one as before.

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at least you're consistent with your bad taste lol.

SteveVQ 07-14-2022 02:47 PM

Advans > *

tx11 07-14-2022 03:33 PM

First 2023 Z allocations formula for U.S. dealers (August 2022)
 
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...ust-2022.1293/

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...486-png.10110/

tx11 07-20-2022 10:38 PM

Is Nissan Testing a New Front Fascia?

​​​​​​​https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...t-fascia.1305/

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...-pm-png.10282/

tx11 07-23-2022 11:04 AM

Central 20 Nissan Z Exhaust
 
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...or-the-z.1312/

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...rge-jpg.10368/

SophiaZ 07-23-2022 03:24 PM

That looks terrible IMO. Maybe I’m just biased, I can’t wait to see what FI does.


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