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Rusty 02-13-2020 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by z-ya-later (Post 3908325)
I have to disagree about there not being a blind spot issue. I think this may be a relative issue for people depending on height. I am 6'2''. I keep my seat all the way back. My mirror on the driver's side will not go far enough over for me to see what's in the other lane. I absolutely have to look out the window when switching to the left.

A right change is easier but if you are not parallel, if you are are turning into the right lane at an angle, the whole right view is pretty much blocked.
I'm 6'2", I have the seat back about half way on the track for proper arm/leg relationship to the pedals, steering wheel and shifter. A good trackday instructor will correct you bad body driving position.

tvfreakazoid 02-13-2020 04:48 PM
Damn the v8s are on the way out. V6 tt for the next few yrs, than boring *** 4t. The future is boooooooorrrrrriiiiinnnnnggggggg

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Rusty 02-13-2020 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 3908328)
Damn the v8s are on the way out. V6 tt for the next few yrs, than boring *** 4t. The future is boooooooorrrrrriiiiinnnnnggggggg

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If you want cubic inches. Get them now.

tvfreakazoid 02-13-2020 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3908337)
If you want cubic inches. Get them now.
Well I need to wait.

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cv129 02-13-2020 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3908337)
If you want cubic inches. Get them now.
Lol if you want real engine sound at all, get them now.

Edit: come to think of it, I might disable that stupid ASE fake engine noise crap on my wife’s car, the worst synthetic engine sound I’ve ever heard

goeagles11 02-14-2020 12:09 AM
400hp twin turbo Z with a manual should eat the new Supra alive. Make it happen Nissan.

xfrgtr 02-14-2020 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by goeagles11 (Post 3908499)
400hp twin turbo Z with a manual should eat the new Supra alive. Make it happen Nissan.
2021 Toyota Supra

The 3.0-liter turbocharged inline-6 returns and produces 382 hp instead of last year's 335, while torque is 368 lb-ft up from the previous 365. Toyota said the power increase comes from a new six-port dual-branch exhaust manifold (last year's model had two ports), revised heat management, and a new piston design that reduced the engine's compression from 11:1 to 10.2:1.

The increased power output also increases performance with the last year's 0 to 60 sprint of 4.1 seconds dropping to 3.9 seconds, though top speed remains electronically limited at 155 mph.

Rusty 02-14-2020 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by xfrgtr (Post 3908526)
2021 Toyota Supra

The 3.0-liter turbocharged inline-6 returns and produces 382 hp instead of last year's 335, while torque is 368 lb-ft up from the previous 365. Toyota said the power increase comes from a new six-port dual-branch exhaust manifold (last year's model had two ports), revised heat management, and a new piston design that reduced the engine's compression from 11:1 to 10.2:1.

The increased power output also increases performance with the last year's 0 to 60 sprint of 4.1 seconds dropping to 3.9 seconds, though top speed remains electronically limited at 155 mph.
Why they making changes to an engine that's only been out for one year? Makes one wonder.

FPenvy 02-14-2020 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3908535)
Why they making changes to an engine that's only been out for one year? Makes one wonder.
i dont think it's an issues with the engine but more on the side that it needs more unlocked to compete.

makes sense to just put it on par with what the engine puts out in the BMW cars that it is in. kinda hurts your sales if a 240 m power outruns you top end toyota sports car.

that was always funny to me when they announced the power figures......then the price :bowrofl:

Zingston 02-14-2020 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3908535)
Why they making changes to an engine that's only been out for one year? Makes one wonder.


The Corvette happened?

Ive still not seen one of these foolass Supras in the wild yet? Are they selling well?

Ghostvette 02-14-2020 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3908546)
The Corvette happened?

Ive still not seen one of these foolass Supras in the wild yet? Are they selling well?
I've seen one here in KC. The owner used to work for Aeromotive. He works for an axle/driveshaft company that makes race stuff. :eek:

tvfreakazoid 02-14-2020 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by goeagles11 (Post 3908499)
400hp twin turbo Z with a manual should eat the new Supra alive. Make it happen Nissan.
Most likely not. No way a man or women can shift faster than a zf tranny.
And we know the bmw supra down played the hp amd tq.

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tvfreakazoid 02-14-2020 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by xfrgtr (Post 3908526)
2021 Toyota Supra



The 3.0-liter turbocharged inline-6 returns and produces 382 hp instead of last year's 335, while torque is 368 lb-ft up from the previous 365. Toyota said the power increase comes from a new six-port dual-branch exhaust manifold (last year's model had two ports), revised heat management, and a new piston design that reduced the engine's compression from 11:1 to 10.2:1.



The increased power output also increases performance with the last year's 0 to 60 sprint of 4.1 seconds dropping to 3.9 seconds, though top speed remains electronically limited at 155 mph.
But we know supras hp of 335hp wasnt the real numbers. When it was dynoed, it was closer to 400hp. So the question is, is it just a software tune? Ecu and maybe a TCU tune?

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Rusty 02-14-2020 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3908546)
The Corvette happened?

Ive still not seen one of these foolass Supras in the wild yet? Are they selling well?
I have yet to see one.

Spooler 02-14-2020 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3908567)
I have yet to see one.
Yeap, just like the old days. I would see many 300zxtt cars and never a turbo Supra back in the 1990's.

goeagles11 02-14-2020 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 3908550)
Most likely not. No way a man or women can shift faster than a zf tranny.
And we know the bmw supra down played the hp amd tq.

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I mean sales figures :). I just think most enthusiasts interested in a RWD sports coupe want a manual transmission.

Even with the new/cheaper 2.0L Supra being announced I don't see Supra sales improving too much.

z-ya-later 02-14-2020 12:04 PM
I've seen 3 of the new Supras since launch including one this week on my commute. That one could've just been a test drive for all I know. They are very, very rare.

Firebase99 02-14-2020 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by z-ya-later (Post 3908600)
I've seen 3 of the new Supras since launch including one this week on my commute. That one could've just been a test drive for all I know. They are very, very rare.
I saw my first one last week, looked good too.

Zezus 02-14-2020 02:46 PM
one of the local guys has a widebody one in advan livery.
it looks pretty effin cool. It was cool enough that my non car friends were like "holy sh*t! what is that thing!?"
They never care about cars so that says something.

TobinH 02-14-2020 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by goeagles11 (Post 3908499)
400hp twin turbo Z with a manual should eat the new Supra alive. Make it happen Nissan.
I think it would be more interesting as a NA car. I think an updated and enlarged VQ with direct injection could make 400 crank hp, and the fact that they're apparently putting such an updated engine into the next Frontier makes it a possibility.

but the VR30 is the obvious choice, so if they do update the Z they'll probably go that direction.

God-Speed 02-15-2020 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3908546)
The Corvette happened?

Ive still not seen one of these foolass Supras in the wild yet? Are they selling well?
I have seen a couple out here in the Austin area. I do know that a few dealerships have them in their inventory.

latch 02-15-2020 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TobinH (Post 3908618)
I think it would be more interesting as a NA car. I think an updated and enlarged VQ with direct injection could make 400 crank hp, and the fact that they're apparently putting such an updated engine into the next Frontier makes it a possibility.

but the VR30 is the obvious choice, so if they do update the Z they'll probably go that direction.
That’s what I was thinking too. Would love to have something like that. Also if they could strip some weight out you’d have quite the car.

tvfreakazoid 02-15-2020 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TobinH (Post 3908618)
I think it would be more interesting as a NA car. I think an updated and enlarged VQ with direct injection could make 400 crank hp, and the fact that they're apparently putting such an updated engine into the next Frontier makes it a possibility.



but the VR30 is the obvious choice, so if they do update the Z they'll probably go that direction.
But than there less chance of making more power from tunes.


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StormWhite 02-15-2020 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TobinH (Post 3908618)
I think it would be more interesting as a NA car. I think an updated and enlarged VQ with direct injection could make 400 crank hp, and the fact that they're apparently putting such an updated engine into the next Frontier makes it a possibility.

but the VR30 is the obvious choice, so if they do update the Z they'll probably go that direction.
Will never happen in the UK. Next Focus RS is rumoured to be Hybrid or it doesn't happen.

I have yet to see a new Supra on the road but then again never see 370Z's either.

TobinH 02-16-2020 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by latch (Post 3908808)
That’s what I was thinking too. Would love to have something like that. Also if they could strip some weight out you’d have quite the car.
yea... I think it would be hard to strip much weight without increasing the price quite a bit.

BUT if they went to a transaxle drivetrain, that would be very good

Rusty 02-16-2020 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TobinH (Post 3909025)
yea... I think it would be hard to strip much weight without increasing the price quite a bit.

BUT if they went to a transaxle drivetrain, that would be very good
Until you want to change out the POS VLSD for something else.

TobinH 02-16-2020 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3909030)
Until you want to change out the POS VLSD for something else.
does it make it much more complicated? I dunno I've never replaced a differential before.

Rusty 02-16-2020 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TobinH (Post 3909043)
does it make it much more complicated? I dunno I've never replaced a differential before.
Oooooh yea. Instead of just a diff. Now you have have a tranny attached to the diff. Over double the weight. With wires and hoses attached too. It's no longer a simple swap once you open it up either.

FL 4Motion 02-17-2020 12:05 AM
There’s a white Supra in my neighborhood, it looks good. Seen a few here and there around my general area too, all either black, white or red. Still very rare, saw way way more r35 gtrs around here back in 09 when they first dropped. Leads me to believe the Supra has been a bust for Toyota.

latch 02-17-2020 12:18 AM
I’ve yet to see one in the wild in my city- just saw them across the fence when they were coming into the country at the Autoport. Granted it is winter, so people might be waiting until spring to drive them.

Optimiser 02-17-2020 01:30 AM
I live in the second biggest city in Australia and I haven't seen the new Supra on the road yet. My work colleague has seen 1 last week.

TheWolfe 02-17-2020 02:50 AM
I've seen a couple in Dallas over the past few months

NissanFreak81 02-17-2020 07:55 AM
I've seen 4 here in Houston so far.

Rodd 02-17-2020 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Optimiser (Post 3909061)
I live in the second biggest city in Australia and I haven't seen the new Supra on the road yet. My work colleague has seen 1 last week.
Sorry we are a bit of topic but anyway, have not seen one here in Newcastle Aust, . Wonder if the price tag has anything to do with it....?
Supra 2019/20 GR GT $90,000AUS and GR GTS $103,000AUS. To give you US folk an idea a new 370Z is about $60,000 so entry level Supra is $30k more expensive, now that's a lot of money!

tvfreakazoid 02-17-2020 06:39 PM
I think the bmw supra is a bit pricey but it doesnt have any resemblance of the mkiv.
Imo it's just of a fail. Especially with all the fake *** vents.
If the new Z is expensive, than nissan wont make any Z cars. Especially with their financial issues.
Nissan needs to make cheaper trim levels of the new Z

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latch 02-18-2020 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 3909236)
I think the bmw supra is a bit pricey but it doesnt have any resemblance of the mkiv.
Imo it's just of a fail. Especially with all the fake *** vents.
If the new Z is expensive, than nissan wont make any Z cars. Especially with their financial issues.
Nissan needs to make cheaper trim levels of the new Z

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Apart from the fake vents, I actually like the new Supra a lot and I think it does a lot of things right. I actually thought one might replace the Z one day; however the lack of Manual made that otherwise. I don’t think it’s fast enough to warrant an auto trans only... especially since it’s not a DCT.

tvfreakazoid 02-18-2020 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by latch (Post 3909391)
Apart from the fake vents, I actually like the new Supra a lot and I think it does a lot of things right. I actually thought one might replace the Z one day; however the lack of Manual made that otherwise. I don’t think it’s fast enough to warrant an auto trans only... especially since it’s not a DCT.
It would of been better if they kept more of the concept look.
At least they should of kept the wheelbase same as the mkiv.
For me I'm not a fan of the look. Now the concept design is much nicer.
Supposedly they went with the zf tranny. I guess it can handle more power. But it seems its cheaper for them to go with the zf. Since a lot of other manufacturers are using the same tranny.

Let's hope the design of the Z will be better than the supra. But I think, if anything, they will fall short if they use the Nissan's auto transmission.

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280driver 03-04-2020 06:03 AM
Is there any other Nissan using the 3.7 motor in the Z? If not, replacing it with the 3.0TT could be seen as a cost cutting, streamlining measure. Grasping for straws I know.

Octane 03-04-2020 07:07 AM
they're all about cutting cost right now, should know more in may when they release their updated models.

mcphelps 03-19-2020 04:57 PM
https://www.motor1.com/news/405136/new-nissan-z-logos/

Well, it's something...


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