8500 USD over sticker. lol. msrp is already overpriced for this thing

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so something like 61500 USD. 80k CAD. For a chassis that cost 35k CAD(27k USD) new (sport model) in 2020.

Truly an insane price lol

To go with his C8 Corvette. Wonder where his is in Indiana?

It’s already hard to justify it being over 50k, there are so many nice used cars in that segment. It’s a hard pass at 60+. I want to like the car but they’re making it hard to.

I'm first in line at my dealer and have been promised mrsp pricing. They are getting 1 Z sometime soon and they don't know what type. I am actually waiting for an lotus emira (Q1 2024 delivery) but way things are going seems like I could pick this up and drive it 10,000miles and sell it for about the same price.

Awesome thread. That guy has a great collection and good taste in cars!

Also, I'm surprised no one is commenting on the dyno results. Those are some great numbers. My desire for the car has completely died, but gotta give credit where it's due.

Lets see some dyno numbers on 93oct or e85. IDGAF about race fuel #'s.

According to that thread some dealers are asking from 20k to 70k over sticker. Id like to think the only people actually paying that are investors or people who have money to burn. Completely idiotic. The initial fan fair for the C8 was about 50 times greater than this car (and covid made it worse) and dealers weren't asking 70k over sticker (at least not that I saw or heard about).

Sexiest car available right now? Please. This guy is just high on having a new car and trying to justify that he paid too much money for it.

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Nissan Z GT4 Race Car Unveiled
 

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...unveiled.1478/

Interesting to see worse skid pad and braking distance numbers on the Z Performance with stiffer suspension and bigger diameter brakes as opposed to the 370Z Sport package.

price of new and used cars will come down next year when the recession hit... And the supply chain situation will likely to be improved by then.

AMS Performance Nissan Z VR30 Intercooler Kit
 

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...oler-kit.1485/

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...087-png.12558/

2023 Nissan Z Runs 129.23MPH on 1500ft w/ Only Tune and Full Exhaust
 

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...formance.1497/

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As a 5 year owner of a 2017 M2 and 6 year owner of a 2013 Sport Z (sold 6 months after M2 purchase) both manuals. I’ll give my opinions of the shifter and clutch.

First the shifter. The M2 has longer shifts, feels rubbery and is a bit notchy. The Z’s, is not perfect either, but it is shorter and while notchy as well, feels more bolt action like. However, comparing them both to my sons Type R. The Type R wins. It’s short, precise and very bolt action like.

Clutch. The M2 is long and light, but comes up a little to high. However, it is easy to find the pick up point, the length of the grab area (sorry don’t know the proper term) is just right. With hill stop, light clutch, easy and nice grab area. It is the easiest manual I’ve ever driven.

The Z’s clutch pedal travel is shorter, slightly heavier and the pick up point is slightly higher. However the grab point on the Z is very short. I never needed hill stop on the Z, even on some major inclines, however it’s really a cool feature to have.

The Type R, has a pedal, whose weight is in between that of the M2 & Z, the shortest pedal travel, nice pick up point and grab area, plus hill stop. No doubt the best of all 3 cars.

But going back to M2 & Z, I have rarely ever mis-shifted or killed the engine on a start on both. And while they both aren’t as good as the Type R, I prefer the M2 manual slightly over the Z.

Got me a WHITE Z proto for list price!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0ef85c05ad.jpg

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the only thing special about the proto is the colour and mattel got it wrong. lol

Scroll up to my post 6868. The original was correct. But you know how Hot Wheels go. They put out the same car 10 times in different colors just to sell them again. The wheels aren't usually changed or accurate with any car. Only sometimes it gets lucky. Where they messed up here is they should have changed the copy on the backer card to just read Nissan Z. But again, that costs them more money.

I just like how round 2 is white. My 370Z is white so I'm more than a little biased to which color is my favorite. Wink wink.

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I think white is one of the few colors, that goes with a black roof.

A white roof would still be better. Wink wink.

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Why isn't anyone here talking about the new Z auto trans recall? I'm not on the new forum because I'm not buying one. Is there a new thread here about it? I guess I just figured all converstion about that car was here in this thread.

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This is the first I’m hearing of a recall. Do tell!

Please just google it. Nissan has put a stop sell on the new Z due to recalls for the auto trans in their trucks, the Jatco 9 speed. Stop sell order came down on August 29, 2022.

The manual trans is not on hold.

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My dealer has a proto in stock but it's not currently for sale. I'm going to go look at it after work tonight.

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Okay, got some more info.

My dealer got his a while ago. Before the sell stop in August. I think the delivery date was 8/21 but that's just my memory. Forgot to take a picture of it written on the car. Maybe I'll go back Saturday and look again.

Car is an automatic, so they can't sell it.

BUT, there is another problem. The front got smashed in during delivery! Crap. I hate to see that on anyone's car, let alone a brand new Z. Perhaps the first wrecked Proto Z in the world?

They have a buyer from Chicago (I'm in Southwest Ohio) who put their $20k over sticker asking price down. He was willing to take delivery as is, but because of the stop sell and the damage, with zero knowledge of when they can fix it, Nissan made the dealer give the guy his money back. Dealer says who the frack knows. It could be 6 months before its fixed. It's been sitting outside in the weather now so long that the battery was dead and couldn't open the doors.

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**** that car. Auto, damaged, and 20k over sticker?

Get a z34, Jesus

Or hell, an a91 6mt

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Next closest dealer in KY supposedly wants $50k over sticker. Ridiculous.

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So yeah, now I've seen it in person.

WARNING: Opinions to follow which new Z lovers may not like. Don't read if you can't handle my completely useless opinions. Asthetics are opinions, so take it or leave it. Love me or hate me. Unfortunately I couldn't DRIVE it, so these opinons are looks only.

Its a good looking car, but nowhere near great looking. As I said before, the guy on the other forum saying it's the sexiest car on the road is just trying to justify paying over sticker. Its DEFINITELY NOT the sexiest car on the road. Its smooth and nice, but its not something that really jumps or pops. It does not make my penis twitch. Its 10 steps behind the 370 easy. The Supra is over styled gimmicky. This Z is understyled boring.

Girls will never even notice this thing. They will like it, but they will never go "WOW! Look at THAT!"

Compared to the 370, it LOOKS BIG, even though its not really bigger. The lack of the 370 telephone wheel flares, lack of 370 nose dip, and lack of 370 rear roundedness makes it look FAT. It just looks big and bloated in comparison.

The 370 looks like a something Porsche might make front engine. The Z went for Austin Martin and failed.

Its a car for people who don't own a 370. Not an upgrade.

All opinions based on looks of a car with protective film still on it. But I hate the gold wheels and I'm big on proportions. This car is absolutely not something I will switch to. Faster 0-60 means not for me. And I greatly fear the electronic power steering until I actually drive it.

The 370Z is better for me by a long shot.

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Forgot 4 comments. Its the first sports car for me that doesn't look better in person than in pics. What you see in pics is what you get.

And build quality was questionable. The fitment gaps were off and uneven, and the rear side window trim already looked and felt like dried up vinyl.

2 tone paint switch on the A pillar and tail gate are contrived, like on the Toyota Camery. Worse on the A piller.

Black roof was not as hateful as I thought it would look. But as I said the contrived start and stop lines aren't good.



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The people paying 50k over have never driven a z34,much less an even mildly tuned one

I, myself, am NOT a fan of the new Z. I tried to like it, but it's just not for me. The new Z just seems more boxy/square and I prefer the curves of the 350Z/370Z.

Don't let EW see this comment :icon17:

It's gonna be cheaper to make fast than a 370z. As speed shops have already proven.

That's about the only upside I see at this point. You want a 9sec car, cost ya about $10k (maybe less) vs $80k in a built 370z.

considering mods only, not base price of the car. maybe cheaper to make fast in a straight line (who cares)
but not when considering the price of the car itself.

and then then 400z weight disadvantage and identical suspension means it will likely not be faster around a track.

even with 400hp it barely beats a stock 370z.

https://capture.dropbox.com/ug7w2MSBPe2ihTFz?raw=1

What I want to know. Can you fit big meaty tires under the new Z like the 370? Asking for a friend.