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Bonzo 08-20-2021 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tx11 (Post 4006861)
Colors for 2023 Nissan Z: Black Diamond Metallic, Gun Metallic, Rosewood Metallic, Brilliant Silver Boulder Gray Seiran Blue, Ikazuchi Yellow, Passion Red TriCoat, Everest White Pearl



https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...ite-pearl.438/



https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...0445-png.2146/

No monotone white or blue or yellow? That sucks. I seriously dislike the whole black roof trend. Let the people who like black roofs get them wrapped or painted. Easy. The other way around is much much harder afterwards. Its a color sodomy right from the get go.

Seems like every piece of new info I get makes me less and less interested.

I guess time will tell.

EDIT / ADD: I basically HATE black wheels, and strongly dislike charcoal wheels. BUT that is a change readily available with many choices, money, and a trip to the tire shop. So for ME, I would instantly be swapping wheels on this car for color (also for wheels I like the shape of better, and to go wider with a better offset to fix the stock stance issue). My point is, that's pretty doable. BUT, if you like the roof the same color as the rest of your car (many many do), you are basically hosed here. It's going to be an expensive "take your car apart to do" imposition that will probably never match right. So in the end I think the 2 tone top is a bad "trendy" decision at Nissan.

Placing bets now. Solid colors will trump the 2 tone in the 2nd or 3rd year of production, just to bring sales up.

Bonzo 08-20-2021 06:59 PM

Thanks for posting!

Jay calls it like he sees 'em and his car show is one of the best. Here's to hoping I get to visit his garage one day!

This is the best view and take on this new Z yet. I love the blue on blue too.

One look at the trunk says a lot! 100% 370.

More later....

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1/4atatime 08-20-2021 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4007100)
Thanks for posting!

Jay calls it like he sees 'em and his car show is one of the best. Here's to hoping I get to visit his garage one day!

This is the best view and take on this new Z yet. I love the blue on blue too.

One look at the trunk says a lot! 100% 370.

More later....

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At the 1min mark he says he saw the first sketches of this over 6 years ago did I hear that right? what in the world has Nissan been doing sitting on this thing for 6 years? I know their not built in a day but c'mon Nissan the car was due for an upgrade a while ago.

viiv 08-20-2021 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 4007110)
At the 1min mark he says he saw the first sketches of this over 6 years ago did I hear that right? what in the world has Nissan been doing sitting on this thing for 6 years? I know their not built in a day but c'mon Nissan the car was due for an upgrade a while ago.

Ghosn

MZ DAIZY 08-21-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4007100)
Thanks for posting!

Jay calls it like he sees 'em and his car show is one of the best. Here's to hoping I get to visit his garage one day!

This is the best view and take on this new Z yet. I love the blue on blue too.

One look at the trunk says a lot! 100% 370.

More later....

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But it’s got a black roof?

sunkist350z 08-21-2021 02:33 PM

I think the color match roof will look more complete, if I get the new Z in that sexy blue or hopefully they come out with a orange, I will order mine with a color match roof. It looks more uniform and complete.

SOUTHZZ 08-21-2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 4007154)
I think the color match roof will look more complete, if I get the new Z in that sexy blue or hopefully they come out with a orange, I will order mine with a color match roof. It looks more uniform and complete.

Design wise it is all visual.
The black roof makes the car look lower and longer.
The reveal video shows the yellow and blue Z.
Same cars but the blue looks longer.
Not a new trick this use of black. Kia uses this with the Soul.
The newer models look so much bigger due to black accents.

tvfreakazoid 08-22-2021 02:03 AM

Interview with Alfonso

https://youtu.be/LmcYBFDkiD4

I'll be in my bunk!

Ghostvette 08-23-2021 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus (Post 4007082)
Ghostvette is correct. 75% city driving, and the 25% hwy that i drive, only 5-10 miles average length, plus I live close to a nice, tight mountain twistie.

Hey Ghost, they increased the speed on the H3 to 60, woohoo! :rofl2: Also there's a couple of roads here where you can go 0-100 on a straight without other cars or cross streets around and 5-O can't hide. But I haven't done that for a number of years.

I was last there in 93, I think H3 was finished, I don't remember. H3 used to dead end about 2-3 miles from the main gate of Kaneohe. We'd hammer the cars to the turn around and then hammer them back until just before we got within radar range of the main gate. I liked the road to the Pali lookout, lots of secluded places for extra-curricular activities with members of the female sex... :yum::yum::yum:

Magic Bus 08-23-2021 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 4007247)
I was last there in 93, I think H3 was finished, I don't remember. H3 used to dead end about 2-3 miles from the main gate of Kaneohe. We'd hammer the cars to the turn around and then hammer them back until just before we got within radar range of the main gate. I liked the road to the Pali lookout, lots of secluded places for extra-curricular activities with members of the female sex... :yum::yum::yum:

Yes, that's one of the roads. I'd normally just cruise towards the gate, make sure the coast was clear on the out bound, and hammer it in that direction.

Kailua Drive Inn, was my spot with the young ladies. Problem was, you needed to keep the windows up unless the mosquitoes would feast on your butt! :rofl2:

Magic Bus 08-23-2021 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 4007181)
Interview with Alfonso

https://youtu.be/LmcYBFDkiD4

I'll be in my bunk!

Sounds like the new Z could be fairly priced. Pending reviews and a personal test drive, another Z could be in my future.

Bonzo 08-24-2021 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 4007154)
I think the color match roof will look more complete, if I get the new Z in that sexy blue or hopefully they come out with a orange, I will order mine with a color match roof. It looks more uniform and complete.

According to a post above from Nissan, you will not be able to get the color match roof in blue or orange, hence why I was discussing it.

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Bonzo 08-24-2021 04:33 PM

See post below.

The only 3 colors you can get with body color roof are black, dark gray, and dark red.

Silver, gray, blue, yellow, red and white all ONLY come with the black roof.

Hence why I posted what I did and why I'm not happy with this poor Nissan decision.

Read my posts above explaining.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...50b378b069.jpg

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RestoredData 08-24-2021 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4007083)
No monotone white or blue or yellow? That sucks. I seriously dislike the whole black roof trend. Let the people who like black roofs get them wrapped or painted. Easy. The other way around is much much harder afterwards. Its a color sodomy right from the get go.

Seems like every piece of new info I get makes me less and less interested.

I guess time will tell.

EDIT / ADD: I basically HATE black wheels, and strongly dislike charcoal wheels. BUT that is a change readily available with many choices, money, and a trip to the tire shop. So for ME, I would instantly be swapping wheels on this car for color (also for wheels I like the shape of better, and to go wider with a better offset to fix the stock stance issue). My point is, that's pretty doable. BUT, if you like the roof the same color as the rest of your car (many many do), you are basically hosed here. It's going to be an expensive "take your car apart to do" imposition that will probably never match right. So in the end I think the 2 tone top is a bad "trendy" decision at Nissan.

Placing bets now. Solid colors will trump the 2 tone in the 2nd or 3rd year of production, just to bring sales up.

I'm personally not a fan of the black roof trend either. Black roofs and vehicles in general don't bode well in Arizona summers.

peleincubus 08-24-2021 10:43 PM

Same here. Zero chance I would get one with a black roof. Just not appealing for me perhaps unless I had 6-7 vehicles and I was changing it up.

tvfreakazoid 08-24-2021 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RestoredData (Post 4007377)
I'm personally not a fan of the black roof trend either. Black roofs and vehicles in general don't bode well in Arizona summers.

How much of a temp difference is it with black roof and say a blue or red?
I'm curious?


I'll be in my bunk!

1/4atatime 08-25-2021 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4007372)
See post below.

The only 3 colors you can get with body color roof are black, dark gray, and dark red.

Silver, gray, blue, yellow, red and white all ONLY come with the black roof.

Hence why I posted what I did and why I'm not happy with this poor Nissan decision.

Read my posts above explaining.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...50b378b069.jpg

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That's beyond stupid only 3 freaking colors that won't have a black roof. It should be an option on every color to have a blacked out roof or not. I'm sure it won't cost Nissan that much more to allow that option. It's little choices like this that make me scratch my head at what Nissans designers are doing.

Bonzo 08-25-2021 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 4007498)
That's beyond stupid only 3 freaking colors that won't have a black roof. It should be an option on every color to have a blacked out roof or not. I'm sure it won't cost Nissan that much more to allow that option. It's little choices like this that make me scratch my head at what Nissans designers are doing.

I agree 100%.

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Bonzo 08-25-2021 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 4007427)
How much of a temp difference is it with black roof and say a blue or red?
I'm curious?


I'll be in my bunk!

If you go back and read my original post, I basically say the same thing. I bet that black roof thing changes quickly on year #2 once they get more feedback from people.

Black roof is relatively easy to ADD to a solid color car with a wrap. In comparison its very hard to take it away.

I think its a very poor decision at Nissan. Very poor.

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DieselKrampus 08-26-2021 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 4007498)
That's beyond stupid only 3 freaking colors that won't have a black roof. It should be an option on every color to have a blacked out roof or not. I'm sure it won't cost Nissan that much more to allow that option. It's little choices like this that make me scratch my head at what Nissans designers are doing.

Technically, only 2 freaking colors that won't have a black roof, since Black metallic is one of the 3 colors

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Bonzo 08-26-2021 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DieselKrampus (Post 4007581)
Technically, only 2 freaking colors that won't have a black roof, since Black metallic is one of the 3 colors

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You are right. Splitting hairs it's possible the black on the roof isn't metallic, but that really won't matter much at all.

But when you put it like that, it's even worse.

The black top should be a paid for add on option to any color, period. I haven't checked the other forum but I hope there are a lot of people complaining about this. There is still time for Nissan to change their plans before the official ordering program starts. I know for a fact I will not even consider this car if I HAVE to get a black roof to get a cool color like blue, white, or yellow. No dice what so ever. Hopefully they are paying attention.

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1/4atatime 08-27-2021 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4007670)
You are right. Splitting hairs it's possible the black on the roof isn't metallic, but that really won't matter much at all.

But when you put it like that, it's even worse.

The black top should be a paid for add on option to any color, period. I haven't checked the other forum but I hope there are a lot of people complaining about this. There is still time for Nissan to change their plans before the official ordering program starts. I know for a fact I will not even consider this car if I HAVE to get a black roof to get a cool color like blue, white, or yellow. No dice what so ever. Hopefully they are paying attention.

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For all the things they got right Nissan sure as heck got a lot of little things wrong and that is in the end what is make or break for a lot of buyers. When you're paying 40k+ for a car you expect stupid things like roof colors to have been figured out. I'm not saying Nissan needs a 100+ combination color selector like Corvette but at least letting the buyer chose to have a black roof or not it's pretty basic stuff IMHO.

ZoomZ 08-27-2021 12:41 PM

Look guys, this is V1. I'm sure some or all of the options we talk about will be added in future model years. It's classic Nissan. Same body, small additions here and there so they can call it "new" model year.

Nismo will be another teaser.

viiv 08-27-2021 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZoomZ (Post 4007733)
Look guys, this is V1. I'm sure some or all of the options we talk about will be added in future model years. It's classic Nissan. Same body, small additions here and there so they can call it "new" model year.

Nismo will be another teaser.

Umm, that's the way it works with every other car as well. Release brand new design in year one, improve and correct faults in subsequent model years.

You want perfection; wait until the final model year to buy.

DieselKrampus 08-28-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by viiv (Post 4007749)
Umm, that's the way it works with every other car as well. Release brand new design in year one, improve and correct faults in subsequent model years.



You want perfection; wait until the final model year to buy.

I have a good friend who's dad has stuck to that principle on nearly every vehicle he's ever bought. He waits until the final year of production for a car or truck, just before the new model is about to be released, and then he buys the final model year for the outgoing model, with all the options and bells and whistles. Seems to have served him quite well over the years, and all of his vehicles are always in tip-top shape.

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ZoomZ 08-28-2021 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viiv (Post 4007749)
Umm, that's the way it works with every other car as well. Release brand new design in year one, improve and correct faults in subsequent model years.

You want perfection; wait until the final model year to buy.


ok. same thing. Throw in every manufacturer.

Bonzo 08-28-2021 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viiv (Post 4007749)
Umm, that's the way it works with every other car as well. Release brand new design in year one, improve and correct faults in subsequent model years.



You want perfection; wait until the final model year to buy.

Or get the 2012 370Z like I did. :>)

Same great looks of the original 2009, but with all the bugs fixed. After 2012 is an aesthetic mixed bag for my tastes.

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zeeder 08-28-2021 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4007823)
Or get the 2012 370Z like I did. :>)

Same great looks of the original 2009, but with all the bugs fixed. After 2012 is an aesthetic mixed bag for my tastes.

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I got a 2013 because I like the daytime running lights and the updated Rays wheels!

Bonzo 08-29-2021 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeeder (Post 4007856)
I got a 2013 because I like the daytime running lights and the updated Rays wheels!

A lot of people hated the original "fangs" up front so they are with you I'll bet.

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tx11 09-20-2021 03:33 PM

Nissan Z Rendered in Midnight Purple & Millennium Jade

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...nium-jade.566/

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...de-1-png.3036/
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...le-2-png.3039/

zeeder 09-23-2021 02:26 PM

I think the Millennium Jade looks great! It'll, likely, be a few years before I can get into the new Z so I'm hoping that it'll trickle down in the next couple model years!

Zerafian 09-23-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tx11 (Post 4009657)


Im not sure where they are getting "midnight purple" from. That isnt even close. Its more like a "Teal Tuesday" or something.

Nissan had me at white and black but these are still nice.

nis350 09-25-2021 04:25 PM

I'd prefer the basic color without the black top...

Ventruck 10-23-2021 03:55 PM

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Got to see the blue one today, and in the wider angle of 1st person view, it looked really good. Promo pictures don't really represent how properly planted it sits and stretches out.

I can't say my picture does it better justice. It's so.....car, in the sense as we once understood it. Yeah, sure. Have at it with magazine stat wars and pretend armchair engineer social media comment threads. If people as a result don't like it or pretend they have a reason to call it disappointing, I'd be happy to find I'll have a better chance of getting my hands on one.

I'd really want one, just because it is what it is.

tx11 10-23-2021 10:57 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...ort-truck.583/

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...5746-jpg.3167/
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...5747-jpg.3168/
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...5748-jpg.3169/

tx11 10-25-2021 01:13 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...nt-silver.611/

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...pe-2-jpg.3395/
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...oupe-jpg.3396/

Zingston 10-25-2021 02:49 PM

I like the grey one! Oh, and the red one!

I can't wait for this new model to be available here in the states!!

tx11 10-25-2021 08:58 PM

Gun Metallic 2023 Z seen with new style wheels
 
https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/threads/gun-metallic-2023-z-seen-with-new-style-wheels.619/

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/at...tyle-png.3461/

Bonzo 10-26-2021 12:14 PM

I like the gray with gray roof much better than the blue or red with black roof.

As discussed before, big mistake on Nissan's part making most colors come with the black roof.

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Ghostvette 10-26-2021 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 4012175)
I like the gray with gray roof much better than the blue or red with black roof.

As discussed before, big mistake on Nissan's part making most colors come with the black roof.

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Possibly. I think they keep an eye on the forums and they've seen people post that they are wrapping their roofs in black. I suppose it's a logical presumption that Nissan made, 'well, if people are doing this, maybe we should offer the cars like this from the factory" Who knows.


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