Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3960129)

Looks too happy, reminds me of a sesame street character lol

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3960141)

Love it or hate it. Bottom line, they're NOT going to discontinue the Z, and it's not a hybrid. :tup:

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960077)

Did anyone see this article? MotorTrend says it will go on sale SPRING 2021!

"When it goes on sale in the spring of 2021 as a 2022 model, the new Z will reignite the car's traditional rivalry with the Toyota Supra. While we're looking forward to simply laying eyes on the 2022 400Z, we really can't wait to pitch those Japanese sports-car icons against each other. After all, like this redesigned Z, such a rematch has been a long time coming."

https://www.motortrend.com/news/niss...-400z-preview/

Originally Posted by ifew552 (Post 3960137)

I want to give kudos to folks who have been here the entire time!

I have been a longtime reader (and I mean really long), and it's been been more than a roller coaster ride. Several years of 370z successor anticipation, followed by years of WTF Nissan, followed by acceptance of the successor won't happen, and now this surprise. Boy has cried wolf so many times I am really surprised this time there really was a wolf.

Now with this in mind, who cares front bumper is little fugly. Z is coming and folks are still going to get it. Kind of like getting married even though you know she is fugly. Yeah she is fugly but that ride...

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 3960171)

Face it. One day it will be hybrid or just straight up electric.
People bitch way too much.
It's better to keep the Z alive vs discounting it.
We know there will be plenty aftermarket available

I'll be in my bunk!

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960085)

I found this render on the 400zclub forum.

I redid it, removed the bottom lip, added a "vent" to the side crevice, brought down the front lip a little, and smoothed out the harsh line around the grille corner.

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3960251)

If it’s 400 horse and a manual trans for $40,000, I order one today.

If it’s 300 horse and a manual trans for $60,000, I pass and keep MZ DAIZY.

Just my :twocents:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 3960171)

Face it. One day it will be hybrid or just straight up electric.
People bitch way too much.
It's better to keep the Z alive vs discounting it.
We know there will be plenty aftermarket available

I'll be in my bunk!

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3960272)

After reading all the post this morning I have one quick question for the haters...

You really going to judge a new Z on its grill? Seriously? How many of you actually thought there would even be a new Z? I know I didn’t. And as far as being a “parts bin refresh” I say at least it’s made from NISSAN Parts, unlike the Supra which was made from a different company‘s parts bin all together. I read the horror stories for Supra owners going in for warranty work and being turned down because they don’t know what they’re doing. You won’t have that problem here.

So, yea, the grill is ugly, I can change that eventually. Give me a genuine factory parts product that puts out 400 HP with a manual trans for $40,000 and I’ll be the first in line. If it sells decently the aftermarket parts will be off the hook.

Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3960282)

General Public: why can’t anyone build an affordable sports car, with rear wheel drive, a manual trans, and not too much tech?

Nissan: hey over here! :hello:

General Public: Nah, the grill is ugly.

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960085)

I found this render on the 400zclub forum.

I redid it, removed the bottom lip, added a "vent" to the side crevice, brought down the front lip a little, and smoothed out the harsh line around the grille corner.

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3960284)

i mean.......the front look is pretty awful :stirthepot:



but seriously why are people harder on the front look over the back.



honestly those taillights need a little work too.

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960056)

I think there are 3 clear main issues with the 400Z.

1. The color they revealed it in was just a down right bad choice. It hid what lines and curves it has and fails to pop in pictures. If you look at the videos of it driving in the sunlight you can see the lines better and it looks a little cleaner, but it definitely would look better in almost any other color.

2. The front bumper/grille is a joke of design when looking head on. The rectangle look doesn't work and will never work with a modern design. I think the overall size of it is okay. The issue is, it's literally just a rectangle. Take a look at other sports/super cars with huge grille like the new Q60 or new Audi R8. They have a massive grille but it works and looks aggressive because it's more of a hexagonal shape.

3. Trying to modernize the older retro look of past Zs just doesn't entirely work here, IMO. I think they tried too hard to literally copy and past some of the designs when they should've just redesigned the look and then incorporated subtle retro styling cues. I do like the headlights. I feel like the tail lights could've been executed better. When I look at that long black strip of paint between the taillights I almost imagine the Toyota Prius rear. Maybe changing that black rectangle to body color would look better. Also, giving the tail lights a more 3D, unique shape instead of the flat, blocky appearance it has now, would really help.

Overall, I think they could've been a bit more creative with certain elements without breaking the bank. The interior is perfectly fine for me. The side profile looks great. Just tweak the front grille/bumper and the rear a bit and I'll take one hands down.




This video explains exactly my thought process on why the front grille needs a redesign.

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960313)

What do you guys think of this new render I did of the rear?

I made the tail lights a little longer, got rid of that middle black area, and reworked the body line engravings. Instead of the oval shape it had, I brought down the lines on bottom outer side of the tail lights towards the diffuser to help give more emphasis on the width of the rear fenders. Also, instead of keeping the "bulge" lines connected, I disconnected those and brought them down on each side, flowing with the natural curvature of the design and left them disconnected at the bottom.

Also I think a carbon fiber spoiler would look great.

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960313)

What do you guys think of this new render I did of the rear?

I made the tail lights a little longer, got rid of that middle black area, and reworked the body line engravings. Instead of the oval shape it had, I brought down the lines on bottom outer side of the tail lights towards the diffuser to help give more emphasis on the width of the rear fenders. Also, instead of keeping the "bulge" lines connected, I disconnected those and brought them down on each side, flowing with the natural curvature of the design and left them disconnected at the bottom.

Also I think a carbon fiber spoiler would look great.

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 3960328)

Better!

Now put some paint color on the rear hatch and roof.

I'd also like to see either a lower diffuser, or for it to incorporate some body color.

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960333)

This is something quick I did so it looks a little sloppy, but you get the idea. I do like the body colored roof much better than the black for sure. I kept the side blade because I think that helps give the car a more flowing appearance. It looks better in black for sure. But the bottom portion body colored I must say looks pretty good while still keeping the lower part of the diffuser.

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960333)

This is something quick I did so it looks a little sloppy, but you get the idea. I do like the body colored roof much better than the black for sure. I kept the side blade because I think that helps give the car a more flowing appearance. It looks better in black for sure. But the bottom portion body colored I must say looks pretty good while still keeping the lower part of the diffuser.

Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3960339)

Looks much better in body color, when I get mine I will paint it, looks more uniform.

Originally Posted by Bonzo (Post 3960337)

+3. Instantly better. Thanks!

Hopefully Nissan is watching this thread.

Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3960339)

Looks much better in body color, when I get mine I will paint it, looks more uniform.

Originally Posted by Godzilla35 (Post 3960332)

Here's my version of the Proto... I'm not the best at car renders but I wanted to take a crack at mods I would do to mine if I had one.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFNwPV3n..._web_copy_link

Some alterations I made quickly just to give it a different feel. NISMO LMGT2’s. Slight drop. Color change. Front bumper modifications. Fender mod and rear spat. I also took elements from the NISMO #370Z and #GTR as well as added the obligatory duckbill every #240Z needs. The car itself is going to be an amazing canvas. Now the only thing left is to hear what the exhaust note sounds like and what the weight will be.

Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960313)

What do you guys think of this new render I did of the rear?

I made the tail lights a little longer, got rid of that middle black area, and reworked the body line engravings. Instead of the oval shape it had, I brought down the lines on bottom outer side of the tail lights towards the diffuser to help give more emphasis on the width of the rear fenders. Also, instead of keeping the "bulge" lines connected, I disconnected those and brought them down on each side, flowing with the natural curvature of the design and left them disconnected at the bottom.

Also I think a carbon fiber spoiler would look great.

Originally Posted by jcasti07 (Post 3960351)

Okay guys at this point STFU about the front. If you knew any better you'd be on the design team. Clearly FI requires more air flow. Black out the bottom if you must but jesus!