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Bonzo 09-17-2020 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3960360)
Now this is the car Nissan should have designed



Shout-out to Apostolon on Reddit

Again, easily better. Still needs less rectangle on the front though. But certainly a major improvement. Thanks for posting.

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Bonzo 09-17-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3960358)
LMAO, who died and left you as judge, jury and executioner...GTFO!!! Nissan put this out for public consumption so they could hear the feedback and give us something to talk about. It keeps the Z relevant unlike your comment.

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+1. It took less than 24 hours for some people to tell us they were over the constructive criticism. (Yes, constructive. 99.9% of people here want Nissan and the Z especially to rock on, so stuff we say, even negative, is meant to help.) Now we are at 48 hours and some people are telling us to go F ourselves. Well I say right back at cha. I think they must have played on those soccer teams where no score was held, or their mama told them good job Billy when they struck out after 4 pitches instead of 3. Rolling my eyes here in SW Ohio.

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danegrey 09-17-2020 07:46 PM

it actually grows on you.... like everyone has said, there probably will be aftermarket that make changes to the front and I like the Apostolon on Reddit..

it's here, it's coming and I am happy about that

danegrey 09-17-2020 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3960360)
Now this is the car Nissan should have designed

Shout-out to Apostolon on Reddit

hmmm, wonder if any of the after market people might try that.....

Ventruck 09-17-2020 07:55 PM

Is it me or are people literally overreacting about other people reacting to the front?

2017370ZBlack 09-17-2020 08:02 PM

At least the front bumper is easy to change with what will certainly be many options in the aftermarket. I like it how it is, LOL.

Rusty 09-17-2020 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jcasti07 (Post 3960351)
Okay guys at this point STFU about the front. If you knew any better you'd be on the design team. Clearly FI requires more air flow. Black out the bottom if you must but jesus!

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3960358)
LMAO, who died and left you as judge, jury and executioner...GTFO!!! Nissan put this out for public consumption so they could hear the feedback and give us something to talk about. It keeps the Z relevant unlike your comment.

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:rofl2:

I don't use this one too often.

Andaesthetics 09-17-2020 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3960379)
it actually grows on you.... like everyone has said, there probably will be aftermarket that make changes to the front and I like the Apostolon on Reddit..

it's here, it's coming and I am happy about that

I agree. The more I'm looking at pictures and videos of it I am appreciating it more. Especially looking at it in different color renders it looks much better without a shadow of doubt. I'm hoping they make some subtle design adjustments in the front and rear, but overall I'm leaning closer to wanting the car than when I first saw it on the livestream.

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Originally Posted by Ventruck (Post 3960383)
Is it me or are people literally overreacting about other people reacting to the front?

I disagree. I watched the unveil live and when they showed the front end I can tell you my reaction was that of distaste. 90% of the general reaction is that the front bumper, especially the grille, needs to be redesigned. If there is 1 single design to be changed, it is the front grille. And I'm sure it will be come production.

jcasti07 09-17-2020 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3960358)
LMAO, who died and left you as judge, jury and executioner...GTFO!!! Nissan put this out for public consumption so they could hear the feedback and give us something to talk about. It keeps the Z relevant unlike your comment.

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I'm just saying if everyone is gonna armchair quarterback I'll be happy to say otherwise. I mean seriously all we see is banter about a front end that can easily be adjusted with aftermarket. Look I'm not saying it's perfect, but I guess I would have expected this community of all others would have had nothing but positive to say after such a stretch. Just me though, I guess. My bad

theART 09-17-2020 09:17 PM

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STFU and take my money!

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...917_191612.jpg

sunkist350z 09-17-2020 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theART (Post 3960400)
STFU and take my money!

:yum:

Andaesthetics 09-18-2020 12:17 AM

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I was just watching over some videos on Youtube and I noticed this circle on the B pillar. Might this be a blind spot sensor? If you look closely the B pillar is angled towards the back so it would be facing directly into the blind spot. A subtle but nice touch.

BOLIO 671 09-18-2020 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3960360)
now this is the car nissan should have designed

shout-out to apostolon on reddit

bruh.... 🔥 🔥 🔥

axmea? 09-18-2020 02:00 AM

Check out MotorTrend's analysis. Although obvious to us Z owners, it details how this new Z is a 370z underneath its skin.

https://www.motortrend.com/features-...arison-visual/

axmea? 09-18-2020 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960428)
I was just watching over some videos on Youtube and I noticed this circle on the B pillar. Might this be a blind spot sensor? If you look closely the B pillar is angled towards the back so it would be facing directly into the blind spot. A subtle but nice touch.


Or a key hole.

MaysEffect 09-18-2020 02:10 AM

Just stopping by to see if you guys are losing your **** over the new release lol :hello:

My .01 cents.. Seems like a modded z34 chassis so far...

Alright peace.

DIGItonium 09-18-2020 02:15 AM

If it makes you guys feel better go stare at the front end of the new Toyota Avalon. It's not even turbocharged. Let that sink in.

When the 370Z first debut I thought it was ugly and was catfish looking. Then I saw it in person and it was actually quite cool looking, and the proportions weren't that bad.

I was really hoping Nissan would trim the proportions a bit with the new Z. I'm hoping it doesn't weigh 3700 lbs.

MaysEffect 09-18-2020 02:28 AM

Why is a turbocharged engine so important? People are just going to change it anyways or complain about how slow it is and go tune it and fry the ECU and/or pistons lol. There was/is nothing ideologically wrong with the current 3.5/3.7 engines as it stands.

Over the years it seemed like everyone was certain Nissan was going to shove a VR38dett in the Z chassis someday. Now everyone will be happy with a 3.0tt?

theART 09-18-2020 02:39 AM

My prediction Z35 will run 12.1-12.3sec 1/4mile stock.

Now go on and speculate about weight and hp!:driving:

viiv 09-18-2020 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960428)
I was just watching over some videos on Youtube and I noticed this circle on the B pillar. Might this be a blind spot sensor? If you look closely the B pillar is angled towards the back so it would be facing directly into the blind spot. A subtle but nice touch.

Sadly, it's not a blind spot monitoring system sensor. Those sensors are located attached to the inside of the rear bumper cover on all cars that are so equipped.

If you are looking for driver assistance safety features, the new Z will have automatic emergency braking. This is because from 2022 onwards, all cars will be required by law to have it.

SOUTHZZ 09-18-2020 06:39 AM

IMO,there will not be any major changes to the exterior design of the PROTO.
keep in mind that the 400Z was not designed by a group of people.
It was penned by Alfonso Albaisa Nissan's design guru.
The overall look and details mimic his past work.
Guys of this caliber hate to have someone screw around with their work

sx moneypit 09-18-2020 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 1/4atatime (Post 3960360)
Now this is the car Nissan should have designed

Shout-out to Apostolon on Reddit

:iagree:

FPenvy 09-18-2020 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SOUTHZZ (Post 3960453)
IMO,there will not be any major changes to the exterior design of the PROTO.
keep in mind that the 400Z was not designed by a group of people.
It was penned by Alfonso Albaisa Nissan's design guru.
The overall look and details mimic his past work.
Guys of this caliber hate to have someone screw around with their work

well they put their pride aside if they want the car to sell and nissan to keep paying them lol

the front and rear need tweaks for me to pay them.

the front - just alter that gaping hole a touch just to change the aesthetic slightly.

the rear- stretch the height of the taillight section to fir the space. the empty gap between the bottom of the lights and the bumper is horrendous.

their work is in tact just slightly altered. everyone wins and they get my 50-60k.

Andaesthetics 09-18-2020 07:56 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEedHld5i14

Behind the scenes, up close video of the 400Z!

z-ya-later 09-18-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Andaesthetics (Post 3960463)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEedHld5i14

Behind the scenes, up close video of the 400Z!

Looks better up close. You can actually see the details of the lines of the car which you can't really see with that bright yellow color from far away. If they can just make the tail lights larger and fix the grill I'd be OK with everything else.

SOUTHZZ 09-18-2020 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3960460)
well they put their pride aside if they want the car to sell and nissan to keep paying them lol

the front and rear need tweaks for me to pay them.

the front - just alter that gaping hole a touch just to change the aesthetic slightly.

the rear- stretch the height of the taillight section to fir the space. the empty gap between the bottom of the lights and the bumper is horrendous.

their work is in tact just slightly altered. everyone wins and they get my 50-60k.

I have to agree on the rear. To me,the entire rear section instead of the top half,needs to be the same.Possibly the bottom under the tail lights needs to be black.This would lower the look of the car. Or,make the tail ights bigger to
fit the space. They seem out of proportion.
All the comments including mine are from the photos. Seeing car in person may give a different perspective.
Overall,I think the design flows like most of Albaisa's past work. Sharp edges,
minimal roundness(opposite to the 300z).Very contemporary.
I have a problem with the DRL's in the front. I know DRL's are the thing to do.
But,these look cheap. Maybe in person,better?

vtecchippy 09-18-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by theART (Post 3960400)

I would buy the **** out of this, perfect!

FPenvy 09-18-2020 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SOUTHZZ (Post 3960473)
I have to agree on the rear. To me,the entire rear section instead of the top half,needs to be the same.Possibly the bottom under the tail lights needs to be black.This would lower the look of the car. Or,make the tail ights bigger to
fit the space. They seem out of proportion.
All the comments including mine are from the photos. Seeing car in person may give a different perspective.
Overall,I think the design flows like most of Albaisa's past work. Sharp edges,
minimal roundness(opposite to the 300z).Very contemporary.
I have a problem with the DRL's in the front. I know DRL's are the thing to do.
But,these look cheap. Maybe in person,better?

honestly i dont think being there in person will save the rear. that big gap is just bad. the light area should just be enlarged to fill the space better. to me it just looks like a bad rendition of 240sx rear lights.

also, i keep seeing that random small body piece that is between the hood and fender just looks lazy like why? lol

MZ DAIZY 09-18-2020 09:51 AM

Maybe I’m partial, but the more I look at the pictures the more I like this redesign. Waaaaay cleaner than the Supra. Wish they’d have picked a better color though. Not in love with the nose, but Apparently it looks a lot better in person (according to Motor Trend). Either way, that can be easily changed after market. I’m more concerned with what’s gonna be under the hood.

All show and no go is going to be a deal breaker for me.

MZ DAIZY 09-18-2020 10:02 AM

I know I’m old and cranky, but as long as we’re picking nits... I’m not in love with the digital dash. All Analog gauges please!

And get off my lawn!

Neo2070 09-18-2020 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3960487)
I know I’m old and cranky, but as long as we’re picking nits... I’m not in love with the digital dash. All Analog gauges please!

And get off my lawn!


LMAO! ALL Analog..that went out with CD's and DVD's..old school man! Ancient history!

FPenvy 09-18-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3960487)
I know I’m old and cranky, but as long as we’re picking nits... I’m not in love with the digital dash. All Analog gauges please!

And get off my lawn!

yeaaaaaaa i gotta go with no on this one.

the new digital dash looks amazing and actually makes the interior feel like it's somewhat on par with the times and tech of today.

if this car is gonna be the Z for the next 10 years or so i think it's the right move.

MZ DAIZY 09-18-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Neo2070 (Post 3960490)
LMAO! ALL Analog..that went out with CD's and DVD's..old school man! Ancient history!

Ok, can we go with ALL digital then? Having the tri cluster in analog looks as dumb as that digital clock and the Atari era thingy in my 370z. :eek:

cv129 09-18-2020 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3960487)
I know I’m old and cranky, but as long as we’re picking nits... I’m not in love with the digital dash. All Analog gauges please!

And get off my lawn!

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3960491)
yeaaaaaaa i gotta go with no on this one.

the new digital dash looks amazing and actually makes the interior feel like it's somewhat on par with the times and tech of today.

if this car is gonna be the Z for the next 10 years or so i think it's the right move.

I do prefer analog gauges also, but there’s an advantage to a digital screen...the ability to choose what to display and arrangement of them. On a track day, imagine the pressure and temp info needed all on the same screen and arranged to your liking...then on your drive home, switch it back to a regular view.

Will have to wait an see if the display arrangement is customizable tho...and what engine info will be available to show.

Hope this isn’t too much faith in Nissan Lol

Andaesthetics 09-18-2020 10:49 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-MHhqgiGCE

Another one.

SOUTHZZ 09-18-2020 10:53 AM

It sure appears from the posts ,that the 400Z PROTO has caused some big excitement.
However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business.
What is the total market for a 2 seater ,manual shift ,RWD vehicle that will cost say,
40K--50k?
Add in the competition out there etc.
For sure,there are the die hard Z people out there such as me that owned a 70' 240Z,
733&Z34.We may have interest in the new 400Z.
But the importance to car companies are the NUMBERS sold.

That is a major factor why Nissan hedged their bets a bit by using a ready platform
and other parts bin stuff.
For example recently Kia recently released a great car,the Stinger. I've driven one.
Twin turbo 6,AWD,great finish. Great reviews from all the media.
But,just cannot sell e'm. Few takers. Probably will go away shortly.

There is always a break even number financially.
Hopefully the 400Z will make it.
Cannot wait to see one in person.

1/4atatime 09-18-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY (Post 3960495)
Ok, can we go with ALL digital then? Having the tri cluster in analog looks as dumb as that digital clock and the Atari era thingy in my 370z. :eek:

I just wish the analog guages had oil pressure but at least they have it on the digital cluster now.

MZ DAIZY 09-18-2020 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SOUTHZZ (Post 3960500)
It sure appears from the posts ,that the 400Z PROTO has caused some big excitement.
However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business.
What is the total market for a 2 seater ,manual shift ,RWD vehicle that will cost say,
40K--50k?
Add in the competition out there etc.
For sure,there are the die hard Z people out there such as me that owned a 70' 240Z,
733&Z34.We may have interest in the new 400Z.
But the importance to car companies are the NUMBERS sold.

That is a major factor why Nissan hedged their bets a bit by using a ready platform
and other parts bin stuff.
For example recently Kia recently released a great car,the Stinger. I've driven one.
Twin turbo 6,AWD,great finish. Great reviews from all the media.
But,just cannot sell e'm. Few takers. Probably will go away shortly.

There is always a break even number financially.
Hopefully the 400Z will make it.
Cannot wait to see one in person.

I test drove a stinger before I bought my 370. Very cheap feeling. Reminded me of my wife’s Forte. Performance? Absolutely! Just felt cheap to me. YMMV.

cv129 09-18-2020 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MaysEffect (Post 3960437)
Just stopping by to see if you guys are losing your **** over the new release lol :hello:

My .01 cents.. Seems like a modded z34 chassis so far...

Alright peace.

It doesn’t seem like it....IT IS lol

The only way it makes any financial sense to make this car now is to use the current parts bins, which is fine by me.

I imagine the longest process of this creation was probably the exterior design. Everything else under the skin was already 90% ready to go.

Neo2070 09-18-2020 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by southzz (Post 3960500)
it sure appears from the posts ,that the 400z proto has caused some big excitement.
However,lets get down to the reality of today's car business.
What is the total market for a 2 seater ,manual shift ,rwd vehicle that will cost say,
40k--50k?
Add in the competition out there etc.
For sure,there are the die hard z people out there such as me that owned a 70' 240z,
733&z34.we may have interest in the new 400z.
But the importance to car companies are the numbers sold.

That is a major factor why nissan hedged their bets a bit by using a ready platform
and other parts bin stuff.
For example recently kia recently released a great car,the stinger. I've driven one.
Twin turbo 6,awd,great finish. Great reviews from all the media.
But,just cannot sell e'm. Few takers. Probably will go away shortly.

There is always a break even number financially.
Hopefully the 400z will make it.
Cannot wait to see one in person.

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