Whether you love it or hate it, at least it’s there and they’re trying. We all hate the grille, that’s 99% of people’s reaction. But shut the f**k up about nit picky little things like reusing some interior pieces or other little things. It’s a prototype (albeit, they said it’s almost the final) and plus you’re brain dead if you think a company under the financial duress that Nissan has been could possibly design something new from the ground up. We’ve known for a while that it’s on the same chassis, old news.

Not to say nobody should dislike the car or state an opinion (everyone here is entitled to that) but we’re looking at a car known for affordable fun. If you want something completely new with every iteration, you better look in the exotic sector. You ain’t finding that ANYWHERE in the 40k range.

I don’t love everything about it, but still, let’s see what production looks like along with price, specs, etc. before we pass final judgement. Plus, we get to keep a manual for those of us that are passionate about that. Supra and Vette fans have lost that forever and I think that says something about nissans intent to please its Z fan base :)

Yessir, been out of my Z since 2017 when she was totaled but I always check in occasionally and the last few months been on almost every day again in anticipation! This might be the first car I ever preorder and the amazing community will be great to be a part of again!

Maybe it's just from being on BMW forums for 5+ years and having to see the new G22 & G80-G82 grill on the front page for however long, but I find the new Z grill pretty refreshing :icon17:

The reveal of the people they used wasnt great lol. Better mc would of been better. Maybe had adam as the mc.
They should of taken more questions from the people. Oh well.


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Better than the new m3/m4 grill imo

I'll be in my bunk!

decent looking car.

I'll save the rest until I see one in person.

I think a lot of you would poo poo on anything they did. Nissan is a company in financial trouble and the fact they didn't just kill off the Z all together is honestly the biggest surprise to me. Let's see how it performs. I'm not a big tech guy and honestly, I'll shy away from cars that have too much tech in them.

I have to say it's pretty disappointing to see some of the negative comments after the reveal. We all knew it was gonna take quite a bit from the Z34, so I have no clue what some people are surprised about. And then to go on an on about how the old headlights tail lamps are better... didnt we want something new? Idk maybe some folks are just trying to convince themselves that they're best off keeping their 370z, and for your situation, maybe that's best, but I'm just stoked that Nissan kept the Z alive in the first place. They threw in the tech that everybody's been crying for, they kept the manual alive, and they're giving us a boosted 3.0 for a start. I thought it looked beautiful on it's own and I'm taking that front end with a grain of salt knowing that they still have bits of tweaking left. I dont know. I guess with as long as this thread has been around I thought we would have all been grateful at the very least that they didnt kill it off

Gotto agree, keeping my m4 just for grillz!

And on another note rear looks like s14:

https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...proto-rear.jpg

https://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/server4....1280.1280.jpg

They were going for the 300zx rear lights.

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I love the Z. Hope the production model looks just like what they showed. Of course, it won't come with a carbon front lip, side sills, and rear diffuser. Doubt it would come with those GT-R brakes either (perhaps as options). A totally new, from the ground up redesign with a new chassis costs over a billion dollars these days. I understand the budget for this refresh was around $240 million. As low as 370Z sales are, it's a miracle that Nissan is going to do this car. I love what they have done considering the constraints they are under. I LOVE this car and look forward to seeing it with my current 370Z! There will be plenty of aftermarket options for a replacement front bumper if Nissan doesn't change it and you don't like it- I understand they already have suppliers going ahead with making parts for the car and the front end probably is set in stone now. I think it looks good anyway- I like the stark and clean design.

I think there are 3 clear main issues with the 400Z.

1. The color they revealed it in was just a down right bad choice. It hid what lines and curves it has and fails to pop in pictures. If you look at the videos of it driving in the sunlight you can see the lines better and it looks a little cleaner, but it definitely would look better in almost any other color.

2. The front bumper/grille is a joke of design when looking head on. The rectangle look doesn't work and will never work with a modern design. I think the overall size of it is okay. The issue is, it's literally just a rectangle. Take a look at other sports/super cars with huge grille like the new Q60 or new Audi R8. They have a massive grille but it works and looks aggressive because it's more of a hexagonal shape.

3. Trying to modernize the older retro look of past Zs just doesn't entirely work here, IMO. I think they tried too hard to literally copy and past some of the designs when they should've just redesigned the look and then incorporated subtle retro styling cues. I do like the headlights. I feel like the tail lights could've been executed better. When I look at that long black strip of paint between the taillights I almost imagine the Toyota Prius rear. Maybe changing that black rectangle to body color would look better. Also, giving the tail lights a more 3D, unique shape instead of the flat, blocky appearance it has now, would really help.

Overall, I think they could've been a bit more creative with certain elements without breaking the bank. The interior is perfectly fine for me. The side profile looks great. Just tweak the front grille/bumper and the rear a bit and I'll take one hands down.




This video explains exactly my thought process on why the front grille needs a redesign.

I like it. Not enough to get out of my '16 Nismo with all the go fast goodies. I'm laughing at some of these comments. The first person who puts on a decent bodykit, wheels, and exhaust will be the catalyst in changing minds especially if the aftermarket supports the car.

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One way to improve it instantly, FOR ME, would be to have the roof and rear diffuser painted the body color. I HATE the C7 Vette with its stupid tall and wide black rear diffuser. Looks so much better when its body colored. And I just about don't like any car with the whole black roof thing. So here's to hoping the black roof thing will either go away or be optional. Black can be added with wrap. Paint color can't. As for the diffuser, as long as its a separate piece that can be removed, then body paint won't be an issue.

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Yep. I agree.

But IMO NOW is the time to speak up. I seriously doubt that front nose is 100% locked in. Especially if the rumors of 2023 have any merit (I certainly hope not). Swapping in a new front is the easiest cheapest thing they could change. So if people speak now about the major things, its possible they could get changed. If everyone just sits around singing kumbaya, nothing will happen.

I for one don't mind that its a refreshed 370, but just don't act like its not, Nissan folks. That reveal show was all a bunch of mush that tried to go around the truth.

I'm very happy the Z car is moving forward. I hope it helps Nissan keep going and grow. But considering the market, and how low the 370 sales were for the last 11-12 years, I'm just not sure this car is going to cut the mustard. Its certainly not C8 Vette excitement. Love it or hate it, that C8 is going to sell like hot cakes and steal potential Z buyers even at the much higher price.

What we also got official news from the reveal that they didn't even THINK about a new Z until 2017. Really? WTF is going on at Nissan? The 400Z should have been released in 2017, not just begun. Its a sad state of financial affairs and leadership there. Certainly not like 2003 when they were kicking arse.

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Some color variations. Without a shadow of doubt it looks MUCH better in other colors.

I still think it needs a new grille design though.

via:https://www.caradvice.com.au/883965/...f-the-rainbow/

Yep, better already in those front shots with different colors and roof body color paint. Fixes the mirror issue straight away.

Did you do these? If so, can you add body color paint to the roof and rear hatch? And as a "Bonzo bonus", the rear diffuser? If these aren't yours, perhaps someone else can.

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PW looks good.

Agreed!!!!:icon18:

I did not. They are from this article:
https://www.caradvice.com.au/883965/...f-the-rainbow/

Also some new front grille renders from TheSketchMonkey on Youtube.

My only comment here is that yep, times are tough at Nissan. So while I'm fine with the 370 refresh (and welcome the new engine and other performance things for sure), please don't say we "obviously" (not your words but implied) shouldn't still look for complete redos. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 240 to 280 was a complete redo. 280 to 300 was a complete redo. 300 to 350 was a complete redo. 350 to 370 was a complete redo. Yet now, we shouldn't at least have hoped for it?

Again, I understand what and why they are doing it. Makes complete sense. And we should just be happy there is a new car. But I would still actually applaud them if they would just come out and say it. Stand up, tell it like it is, and beat your chest about having a true manual tranny sports car while others don't.

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Not mine.


https://i1.wp.com/fr.ebeneinfo.com/w...01%2C565&ssl=1

yes, the different colors do make it look better, thou like most comments, the front grille just does not do it for me. Also the comments about a refresh 370Z, had me look at some of the photos, interior parts remind me of the 370z. Along with the quarter rear window.

I think for me, it will come down to seeing the car in person, I am also price sensitive, only because car values out there.

I would think of trading my 370z in for it, but would consider it as a DD, with Automatic. Getting up there in years, but that is what I say now. Thought I get an automatic mx-5 and got a stick... some habits are just are die..

Oh well. Thanks though for posting. I'm sure we'll have more to look at very soon.

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Did anyone see this article? MotorTrend says it will go on sale SPRING 2021!

"When it goes on sale in the spring of 2021 as a 2022 model, the new Z will reignite the car's traditional rivalry with the Toyota Supra. While we're looking forward to simply laying eyes on the 2022 400Z, we really can't wait to pitch those Japanese sports-car icons against each other. After all, like this redesigned Z, such a rematch has been a long time coming."

https://www.motortrend.com/news/niss...-400z-preview/

It would look nicer in the dark. Just like at parties.....after a couple of shots of whiskey.

Ok I'll admit maybe I was a little quick to judge. Those renders don't look bad at all heck actually looks kinda good in different colors. Still don't like the front grill but it looks better in a different color than that ugly yellow they showed off.

I found this render on the 400zclub forum.

I redid it, removed the bottom lip, added a "vent" to the side crevice, brought down the front lip a little, and smoothed out the harsh line around the grille corner.

I'm sure the front bumper will be on the top of aftermarket companies lists of parts to make.

Fail. Sissy looking front headlights and thus overall fascia. Throwback tail lights make it look dated not retro. Interior less character than 370, but maybe the dash won't crack. AC controls look like a PITA to reach in a confined space. Thanks Nissan for hiking the values of our 370's!!!

I read that article too, and though I feel that Motortrend would have facts straight before writing this, I have to wonder where they got that info. That's the only article suggesting a release next spring.

Going off what I know of these cars:

240z-280z were generally the same chassis, just federal mandated changes like bumpers and emissions. BTW, note that Datsun used "240" or 260" to designate engine size.

280zx was a different or heavily modified chassis with different suspension and more weight.

Obviously Z31 300ZX totally different, as was Z32 300ZX.


This brings me to a point I keep thinking I may be correct about: Nissan is unlikely to use "400" to designate the Z. I am not quite sure where "400" comes from, maybe the anticipated 3.0TT HP? However, Datsun/Nissan never did that before.
Also, they didn't require increasing the number either as Z31 and Z32 were both "300" despite having several HP levels and being 2 totally different cars.

For Nissan to use "400" would be a deviation from the heritage, which has been very consistent. I suspect it will either drop the numbers (I am unsure about Fairlady) or Nissan will call it "300Z" This would be different than the Z31 and Z32 as they were called "300ZX".

Also, I keep hearing publications and YT videos say the car will also use the 7AT. I sure hope not! Nissan has a 9AT now and it is regarded as a much better trans than the 7AT. I have a 7AT in my Q60, it's "OK" but I wouldn't buy it again.
I'm definitely getting the 6MT Z.

OHH WHAAT! Now we are talking! Def better than original.

http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...ont-end5.1.jpg

The good...
...Nissan has finally made it official that they're doing another Z.
...3.0TT
...6MT
...handbrake
...6/4 brakes appear to be at least an option
...the iconic 3-gauge cluster

The bad...
...a lot of the exterior
...massive rectangular front grille is the worst (was size determined by intake requirements?)
...side view appears OK but lines are suboptimally shown due to lemon-lime color choice
...both front and rear look too much like a Detroit muscle car and not a Z sports car despite Nissan's insistence they're trying to channel previous Z generations.
...chrome "katana" trim, WTH?
...black roof, black lower front lip, black strip between tail lights aren't doing any favors to the lines of the car, and should be offered as an optional black package at most.
...horrible presentation leaves you wondering WTF are they thinking

Undecided, or not enough info...
...ALL of the performance specs
...color choices
...a lot of the interior and tech stuff
...new CSC or the old one from their parts bin?
...diff?, steering?
...PRICE
...availability

I ordered a 350 back in 2002 and was so excited about that car that I wore out at least 10 brochures drooling at the pictures while I was waiting for my order to arrive. Then I modded it a lot just because I could. I had it for 17 years before I had to sell it (long story) and I've pined for another Z ever since. I was hoping Nissan would build something that I liked as much as my 350 and that I wouldn't HAVE to mod it because I don't want to do that again.

After last night's presentation, I'm just not feeling it. :crying:


ETA: Nissan has to know that a lot of Z owners have been anxiously waiting for a new Z for years, and that we're a big part of their potential buyer pool. I hope they've got someone reading these forums while they still have time to tweak that design.

Nissan PLEASE TAKE NOTES!!

Quick Amuse chop.


http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1600311776

The both look better than that blocky front Nissan made, I like the first picture best.

Looks too happy, reminds me of a sesame street character lol

Nooooooooooo

I'll be in my bunk!

That grill design is better

I'll be in my bunk!

From what I've read, it seems they are working a on auto trans. It seems they are making improvements 7AT.
If they are going to have a option for a 7AT or 8AT, they have no choice to make improvements. Currently what a lot of cars are using the ZF transmission and it seems a good one. Nissan has to make it on par with the zf.

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