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ramoszx12r 09-10-2017 10:43 PM

It will be interesting to see what they will make. I think I will be keeping my, and trade
my wife q50 for the q60 red sport.

MaysEffect 09-10-2017 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ramoszx12r (Post 3692159)
Look like they are going to make the new Z.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...s4D5MuIl0q1GXA

People have been saying this since 2014.

xfrgtr 09-11-2017 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ramoszx12r (Post 3692159)
Look like they are going to make the new Z.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...s4D5MuIl0q1GXA

Old news
Nissan Z Concept Coming; Production Car Could Reach 500 Horsepower January 26, 2017

MagmaRed370z 09-11-2017 08:51 AM

Come on!!!!! Nissan! What the f are you waiting for?

Tick64 09-11-2017 06:13 PM

...for the Tokyo Motor Show? Hopefully?

Zatanna Z 09-11-2017 07:59 PM

Wish nissan made the Z a priority :/

Volk Z 09-12-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Zatanna Z (Post 3692506)
Wish nissan made the Z a priority :/

I'm sure they wish they would sell more so it could be a priority BUT when you make a 2 seater, RWD sports car 98% of the population WONT buy it.

Being a niche car its not going to sell a lot. The GTR is their priority even though it sells less than most cars on the market under 250k.

I hate to say it but if they made a 2x2 vs 2 seater they would sell more... I would be ok with a 2x2 and just yank the rear seats out when I get it...

MaysEffect 09-12-2017 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 3692707)
I'm sure they wish they would sell more so it could be a priority BUT when you make a 2 seater, RWD sports car 98% of the population WONT buy it.

Certainly when it's over priced for its value.

Is the Z worth 15k more than a mx5 or Brzfrs86?

Volk Z 09-12-2017 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MaysEffect (Post 3692710)
Certainly when it's over priced for its value.

Is the Z worth 15k more than a mx5 or Brzfrs86?

I would say it definitely is worth 15k more than those cars. Not trying to start an argument! I'm just saying ive driven both of those cars and the "excitement" factor out of the box was severely lacking.

The platforms of the MX5 and BRZ are fantastic and with some modifications can be made to be a great auto cross car but basically are really weak.

I drove a 2015 mustang GT and Ecoboost and the ecoboost was not great out of the box but had some potential with mods.
THe GT was a blast to drive BUT personally lacked a good bit to me in the exterior. Its cheaper than the Z and faster in a straight line but in the South where I live currently its a dime a dozen.
The BRZ and Miata are either 21 year olds driving it or a woman... So to me those are not comparable options even saving cash

Zingston 09-12-2017 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 3692707)
I'm sure they wish they would sell more so it could be a priority BUT when you make a 2 seater, RWD sports car 98% of the population WONT buy it.

Being a niche car its not going to sell a lot. The GTR is their priority even though it sells less than most cars on the market under 250k.

I hate to say it but if they made a 2x2 vs 2 seater they would sell more... I would be ok with a 2x2 and just yank the rear seats out when I get it...



1st: Thank you for using the word 'THAN' in your third sentence.

2nd: Per Good Car Bad Car, the 2017 ytd sales figures for the Z in the US indicate sales are running ~ 2/3 of 2016's sales. I guess this could spur them to speed up the development of the next Z, or be justification to drop the model altogether in a few years. Time will tell.

280driver 09-12-2017 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3692722)
1st: Thank you for using the word 'THAN' in your third sentence.

2nd: Per Good Car Bad Car, the 2017 ytd sales figures for the Z in the US indicate sales are running ~ 2/3 of 2016's sales. I guess this could spur them to speed up the development of the next Z, or be justification to drop the model altogether in a few years. Time will tell.

You could make a good argument that the lack of meaningful updates to the 370Z is a calculated effort by Nissan to slow sales and gain an excuse to kill it. I'm know that's not the case but I can't figure out their plan in the slightest.........

Volk Z 09-12-2017 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zingston (Post 3692722)
1st: Thank you for using the word 'THAN' in your third sentence.

2nd: Per Good Car Bad Car, the 2017 ytd sales figures for the Z in the US indicate sales are running ~ 2/3 of 2016's sales. I guess this could spur them to speed up the development of the next Z, or be justification to drop the model altogether in a few years. Time will tell.

Haha yes than vs then :)
-Grammar Police

vtecchippy 09-22-2017 02:09 PM

Who wants to host a viewing party for Tokyo Auto Show if they have a livestream? I'll fly out, bring popcorn, and a box of tissues. 'Cause we're either gonna be sobbing or jizzing. :icon17:

But in all seriousness, this show will determine whether I wait for next gen (if there is one) or get another 370. Since being totaled in Jan, mine has left a huge hole in my heart and I've only held off in the hopes of maybe being one of the first to buy into the next generation.

Sorry to re-bump this mostly depressing thread, but personally, I'm counting the days to Tokyo. :stirthepot:

280driver 09-22-2017 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtecchippy (Post 3695254)
Who wants to host a viewing party for Tokyo Auto Show if they have a livestream? I'll fly out, bring popcorn, and a box of tissues. 'Cause we're either gonna be sobbing or jizzing. :icon17:

But in all seriousness, this show will determine whether I wait for next gen (if there is one) or get another 370. Since being totaled in Jan, mine has left a huge hole in my heart and I've only held off in the hopes of maybe being one of the first to buy into the next generation.

Sorry to re-bump this mostly depressing thread, but personally, I'm counting the days to Tokyo. :stirthepot:

Go see IT instead. Nothing going down for us at Tokyo my friend.

vtecchippy 09-25-2017 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 280driver (Post 3695364)
Go see IT instead. Nothing going down for us at Tokyo my friend.

Hah, I actually did this weekend! We enjoyed it.:drama:

s2krazyyy 09-27-2017 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaysEffect (Post 3692710)
Certainly when it's over priced for its value.

Is the Z worth 15k more than a mx5 or Brzfrs86?

No one is paying 40k for a Z nowadays, maybe a Nismo and if you are im sorry but you are getting fleeced. I wouldnt pay 15k more but when you consider the fact that you can get a lightly used Z with a sports package for as much or even less than a new MX5/BRZ the Z starts looking like a gem.

MaysEffect 09-27-2017 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by s2krazyyy (Post 3696573)
No one is paying 40k for a Z nowadays, maybe a Nismo and if you are im sorry but you are getting fleeced. I wouldnt pay 15k more but when you consider the fact that you can get a lightly used Z with a sports package for as much or even less than a new MX5/BRZ the Z starts looking like a gem.

It's a huge increase in overall cost, certainly when you factor in lifetime cost compared to a smaller lighter car with a much simpler 4pot engine.

Leasing or financing, you are spending well over 100 dollars a month more. I'm not sure i'd want to buy any new car outright nowadays. It goes back to who actually wants these cars two? Mature family people with a bit of disposable income? OR teenagers and college kids that have a tight budget? Are the later even responsible enough to have the extra power(debatable irrelevant fact). In both cases the cheaper car makes sense. I wouldn't buy my child a 370z compared to a mx5 or brzfrs86 on both facets of cost and increased power, plus its less practical on all fronts.

The other question is how long do people want to keep cars nowadays? How many people here still own a 09 model and are looking to trade or at least get something newer? There has been no major upgrades on this chassis to justify just buying a newer model. A new engine would be enticing even if the chassis is the same. Is a 4 cylinder sacrilege?

Bigger question is should Nissan make an s15 successor if they are not gonna appease the Z crowd?:stirthepot::confused:

Volk Z 09-28-2017 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2krazyyy (Post 3696573)
No one is paying 40k for a Z nowadays, maybe a Nismo and if you are im sorry but you are getting fleeced. I wouldnt pay 15k more but when you consider the fact that you can get a lightly used Z with a sports package for as much or even less than a new MX5/BRZ the Z starts looking like a gem.

I paid 40900 for my 2017 nismo tech out the door brand new. I got leather recaro seats, nav and all else that come with it... I would avoid saying what you did as I could say the same for a base model person getting hosed for paying 30k and not getting any options but that's their choice.

babyzilla 09-29-2017 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Volk Z (Post 3696717)
I paid 40900 for my 2017 nismo tech out the door brand new. I got leather recaro seats, nav and all else that come with it... I would avoid saying what you did as I could say the same for a base model person getting hosed for paying 30k and not getting any options but that's their choice.

Thank you for making this statement on behalf of all of us lol
And just to add: the recaro seats are amazing. That's something you can't do (easily or inexpensively) w/o compromising safety and losing airbags. To me, the seats are one of the biggest selling factors. Is it worth the 10k+....well there are already several threads on this, but it all comes down to worth being in the beholder's eyes and whether or not the person wants to mod. Pretty simple if you ask me.

jcasti07 09-29-2017 02:19 PM

Has anyone seen or heard about This? Rumors of an S15 resurrection.. Rumor Has It: Nissan May Reveal All-New S16 Silvia Next Month | DrivingLine

6spd 09-30-2017 02:06 PM

If I were a betting man, I'd say the S16 will come... except to the US market.

TN.Z 09-30-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 3697056)
If I were a betting man, I'd say the S16 will come... except to the US market.



My thoughts exactly. We never got the S15, and the S14 we got in the US had a truck motor instead of the wonderful SR motors.

MagmaRed370z 10-13-2017 06:56 PM

Instead of ramping a few more horse power or including more features in the Z, Nissan managed to put ugly 2018 new rims on the sport model which are hideous.

ToonaFish 10-14-2017 11:16 AM

I just came across a post by Nissan's facebook page. It was teasing the revelation of a concept car at Tokyo Motor Show.

I got excited for a moment there until I realized it is the Nismo Leaf that will be unveiled. I watched the video again until it showed only a glimpse of the grill of the car.............then googled Nismo Leaf. The video's theme is of nature, flowers, trees, and leaves. We all already know the Nismo Leaf is coming. There was no need to pretend like there is a surprise concept car. Just say it is going to be Nismo Leaf. Oh, the disappointment.

Has anyone here ever thought that Nissan's thinking is that of a defeated person? If they don't get clever and wow the world with an irresistible sports car, that is exactly the reason why they won't see worthy sales numbers. Maybe, just maybe, their sports car sales suck because they don't outdo the competition. When one does not believe he can accomplish something, he never will. It all starts with belief. Again, they don't profit from sports cars much because they stagnate, not because the market and demand is too small. If Ford and GM can do it, Nissan must be able to do it.

Z is too impractical? Make it a 4 seater. Forget the purists and traditionalists. Z is underpowered? Give it 420-430 hp at the same curb weight of 3300 lbs. Will smoke SS and GT. Then, witness all the horsepower and straight line junkies rush to buy it. Most muscle and pony car owners only care about power anyway.

Trips 10-14-2017 12:36 PM

I can't show how really disappointed I am in Nissan, But Its pretty evident Nissan doesn't really care enough about the Z platform anymore.

I've been a Z owner longer than half of our current members in here the under 30 crowd have been alive, And I will be owning my last Z.

I'll be looking elsewhere besides Nissan for my next purchase.
:(

NISSAN IF YOU CAN READ THIS GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!!

onzedge 10-14-2017 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3700230)
I can't show how really disappointed I am in Nissan, But Its pretty evident Nissan doesn't really care enough about the Z platform anymore.

I've been a Z owner longer than half of our current members in here the under 30 crowd have been alive, And I will be owning my last Z.

I'll be looking elsewhere besides Nissan for my next purchase.
:(

NISSAN IF YOU CAN READ THIS GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!!

:eek:

Rusty 10-14-2017 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3700230)
I can't show how really disappointed I am in Nissan, But Its pretty evident Nissan doesn't really care enough about the Z platform anymore.

I've been a Z owner longer than half of our current members in here the under 30 crowd have been alive, And I will be owning my last Z.

I'll be looking elsewhere besides Nissan for my next purchase.
:(

NISSAN IF YOU CAN READ THIS GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!!

:iagree:






Pretty slick on the way you did that. :rofl2:

Spooler 10-14-2017 01:42 PM

I have had many myself. 260z, 2+ 280z, 2 +280zx, 300zxt, 300zxtt, 2+ 370z Nismo's. My last one I am keeping forever. I won't make the same mistake I did with my 300zxtt. My next car may be a ZO6/ZR1 Corvette.

Volk Z 10-15-2017 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3700230)
I can't show how really disappointed I am in Nissan, But Its pretty evident Nissan doesn't really care enough about the Z platform anymore.

I've been a Z owner longer than half of our current members in here the under 30 crowd have been alive, And I will be owning my last Z.

I'll be looking elsewhere besides Nissan for my next purchase.
:(

NISSAN IF YOU CAN READ THIS GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!!

I've owned Z's now for 15 years.
I had one of the first 350z in the country. Build date was 2002. I'm on my 4th Z and I agree, my next car is most likely the supra TT or a lotus exige S

Jordo! 10-16-2017 12:47 PM

I'll be shopping for a 4C before the end of the year -- unless Nissan convinces me at TMS to hold out for the next Z.

TN.Z 10-16-2017 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3700589)
I'll be shopping for a 4C before the end of the year -- unless Nissan convinces me at TMS to hold out for the next Z.



Go ahead and start shopping for the 4C... fun little car. Nissan would have at least hinted or had something leaked if they had a Z concept.

danegrey 10-16-2017 02:01 PM

:shakes head:
a bit sad the conversation, but guess its going to die
just wish they kill it off, so that it could start being a classic...

Thou always enjoyed the had a 240Z, 260z and now the 370z

I will enjoy my Z, and it's not going anywhere :driving:

onzedge 10-16-2017 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3700597)
:shakes head:
a bit sad the conversation, but guess its going to die
just wish they kill it off, so that it could start being a classic...

Thou always enjoyed the had a 240Z, 260z and now the 370z

I will enjoy my Z, and it's not going anywhere :driving:

:iagree:

Jimbo370 10-16-2017 02:19 PM

Would anybody buy a hybrid Z-car similar to an Acura nsx? I think that would be a good platform too copy.:stirthepot:

Rusty 10-16-2017 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danegrey (Post 3700597)
:shakes head:
a bit sad the conversation, but guess its going to die
just wish they kill it off, so that it could start being a classic...

Thou always enjoyed the had a 240Z, 260z and now the 370z

I will enjoy my Z, and it's not going anywhere :driving:

Mine is garage kept. So it's not going anywhere soon. Besides, I got too much money in it. And I'm not done spending money on it.

Tick64 10-16-2017 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3700610)
Mine is garage kept. So it's not going anywhere soon. Besides, I got too much money in it. And I'm not done spending money on it.

At least there will be plenty of spare parts available for the 370z for years to come :driving:

onzedge 10-16-2017 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3700610)
Mine is garage kept. So it's not going anywhere soon. Besides, I got too much money in it. And I'm not done spending money on it.

:tiphat:

TN.Z 10-16-2017 03:51 PM

I’m not getting rid of mine either, I had hoped they would release something with the VR30DETT from the new Infiniti’s just to save me some money building a TT z but now I will just keep mine, pay it off and TT it, unless I can find a clean cheap 240z rolling chassis to build.

Rusty 10-16-2017 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TN.Z (Post 3700623)
I’m not getting rid of mine either, I had hoped they would release something with the VR30DETT from the new Infiniti’s just to save me some money building a TT z but now I will just keep mine, pay it off and TT it, unless I can find a clean cheap 240z rolling chassis to build.

Mine is slowly turning into a mini Viper. :eek: Half the power, and half the price until I go FI.

onzedge 10-16-2017 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3700678)
Mine is slowly turning into a mini Viper. :eek: Half the power, and half the price until I go FI.

:icon14: :p :icon14:


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