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Originally Posted by Volk Z Hey guys, check this video out. It's the Q50 with the new VR30DTT motor that should be in the next Z. Remember when you watch

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Old 08-01-2016, 09:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys, check this video out. It's the Q50 with the new VR30DTT motor that should be in the next Z. Remember when you watch this video the Z should be 400-600 pounds lighter and probably slightly more power!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpl27tFazRc&app=desktop

A couple notes I noticed, boost looks to kick in around 3K and tacs out around 6800ish rpms. The Guage literally jumps from 3K to 6k and he's rocking TCS on!! I know TCS on my 350z shut the throttle down to control traction.... so keep all I said in mind and now imagine this in a tiny 3000 pound car. I would of course get a manual. The gear ratios could be slightly different as well which could add even more.

This video you can hear the engine yum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4TIavQgY4Y

Cool videos! I'm concerned about "drive by wire" and hope that isn't part of the Z - we want MORE connection with the car not less.

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Stillen put the car on a dyno and found out the the 400hp figure is VERY conservative: http://www.infinitiq50.org/forum/sti...ort-3-0tt.html "This motor is definitely underrated. The factory claims 400hp and 350 ft-lbs as the output at the crank. Assuming 15-20% drivetrain loss (7 speed auto and runflat tires). We estimate the engine is actually making 440-470 HP and 410-440 Ft-Lbs at the crank. Keep in mind this is also on California 91 octane (the worst gas for making power)."
This bodes well indeed for the new Z using this powerplant!

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Cool videos! I'm concerned about "drive by wire" and hope that isn't part of the Z - we want MORE connection with the car not less.

One of the comments below the second video:



This bodes well indeed for the new Z using this powerplant!
I said Nissan was being conservative with BHP after seeing that 1/4 mile run.

they drop into a Z35 even with weight going up a bit that thing will fricking fly.
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And for anyone who might wonder if their dyno simply is reading high, later in that Stillen thread they said no that isn't the case, as this is the exact same dyno that the current 3.7L V-6 with 332HP at the crank measures where it should (just south of 300HP).
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stock 370s normally dyno around 275-280.
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I think the GTR was the same they said 465hp or whatever when it came out and it was actually much more. This video makes me laugh when I saw earlier people saying they don't care about the new Z and are glad they just bought a 2016 haha... this thing in reverse will smoke a 370z! If it's really rated more in the 450hp range so 400 wheel hp that's like 130 more wheel hp than a 370z... and if it's more aero and lighter than yeah enjoy your 370z!! Haha
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I think the GTR was the same they said 465hp or whatever when it came out and it was actually much more. This video makes me laugh when I saw earlier people saying they don't care about the new Z and are glad they just bought a 2016 haha... this thing in reverse will smoke a 370z! If it's really rated more in the 450hp range so 400 wheel hp that's like 130 more wheel hp than a 370z... and if it's more aero and lighter than yeah enjoy your 370z!! Haha
You have to remember, to each their own. Honestly I think the new Z will be amazing.

The few things that the 370z will have in its favor are low production numbers (unless the z35 flops the 370z is the lowest production Z of all time), will have the biggest displacement enging (no replacement like displacement?!) , and a style like very few cars. It looks like the the damn thing has a wide kit and slight sexy modern muscles sticking out! I actually hope I don't like the new Z tooo much because I plan on building my 370z for a long time. My goal is ~400bhp and ~3100lbs with all the comforts I'm looking for. Perfect! (400bhp is probably more then i want personally. so guys with 400whp -> "1000whp" z35 ... meh ...)

There are few factors that I can't weight to see. (see what I did there) My guess is
410bhp and 3400lbs at $52,000 for the nismo.
400bhp and 3250lbs at $40,000 for the sports package V6tt.
---bhp and >3100lbs at $28,000 for stock *** base model ?????

I think realistically trying to get a car 400+bhp and around or under 3000lbs would just be way to expensive to make. I mean that's better numbers then a porsche cayman gt4 starting at $84,000. Possible, yes. Probable ... Probably not.

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You have to remember, to each their own. Honestly I think the new Z will be amazing.

The few things that the 370z will have in its favor are low production numbers (unless the z35 flops the 370z is the lowest production Z of all time), will have the biggest displacement enging (no replacement like displacement?!) , and a style like very few cars. It looks like the the damn thing has a wide kit and slight sexy modern muscles sticking out! I actually hope I don't like the new Z tooo much because I plan on building my 370z for a long time. My goal is ~400bhp and ~3100lbs with all the comforts I'm looking for. Perfect! (400bhp is probably more then i want personally. so guys with 400whp -> "1000whp" z35 ... meh ...)

There are few factors that I can't weight to see. (see what I did there) My guess is
410bhp and 3400lbs at $52,000 for the nismo.
400bhp and 3250lbs at $40,000 for the sports package V6tt.
---bhp and >3100lbs at $28,000 for stock *** base model ?????

I think realistically trying to get a car 400+bhp and around or under 3000lbs would just be way to expensive to make. I mean that's better numbers then a porsche cayman gt4 starting at $84,000. Possible, yes. Probable ... Probably not.
The Nismo looks pretty bad in your speculative numbers. 150 lbs heavier, only 10 more hp and $12k more?
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Naaaa, assuming there is a Z35 i think its obvious it will share the 400HP turbo power plant which is underrated quite a bit. If the Z35 stays at same weight, even gains a few pounds due to the welcomed tech, given the right chassis, coupled with that engine? Oh my....
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The Nismo looks pretty bad in your speculative numbers. 150 lbs heavier, only 10 more hp and $12k more?
Yeah the current nismo is 12k over the base. That's crazy to me. YEah 150lbs may have been a little high. I still think less then 100lbs over base with the same engine. I think its something like that now. Also sorry, I do think the current nismo is kind of a bad deal and my speculations just amplifies that. Man i just cant wait to see!
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Naaaa, assuming there is a Z35 i think its obvious it will share the 400HP turbo power plant which is underrated quite a bit. If the Z35 stays at same weight, even gains a few pounds due to the welcomed tech, given the right chassis, coupled with that engine? Oh my....
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count me out if it doesnt have Dat *** like the 370z.


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with a turbo'ed engine, they could probably tune more of a hp difference out of the nismo
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I put on 50 shades of grey. I thought it was a documentary about the Nissan-Infiniti paint production on their vehicles....

I was wrong!
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Doubtful they would do this but, why not keep the style and just update the tech. For example, in Vietnam the U.S. Army had the Cobra gun ship helicopter, fast forward to the mid to late nineties and you've got yourself a SuperCobra outfitted with the latest tech. Improve upon what is a great car and make it even better.

BTW.... I am also guilty of eyeing the new Vette. Never was a fan but GM actually did something right with this latest Corvette, even the base model is rated to do 0-60mph in 3.7sec.
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Doubtful they would do this but, why not keep the style and just update the tech.
In a way I agree, but they've got to take the opportunity to refresh the look after 9 years or sales won't go anywhere. Performance is great and all, and I'm jonesing for refreshing in that area like anyone, but nobody wants to be driving a 2018 370Z that's essentially indistinguishable to the untrained eye to a 2009 370Z (other than that it disappears up ahead quicker).
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