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Old 07-18-2016, 08:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well if they stop making the Z, then I have the last year made.
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Well if they stop making the Z, then I have the last year made.
That's how I look at it too!
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keeping my 370z as dd and my new toy might be

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I'm thinking about doing the same thing but I need more room for my toys!!! Maybe time for an big external garage...
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I'm thinking about doing the same thing but I need more room for my toys!!! Maybe time for an big external garage...


Buy a pre-engineered metal building. Very reasonably priced and there's basically no maintenance for 40yrs.
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2 garage bays for $25K, plus the pad. That's pretty good.
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I wish I could find my post like a year ago predicting they offer a 4 cylinder turbo and a V6TT and now those 2 motors both exist in the Q series (aka G37 successor)

Heres my new thought prediction;

Nissan for 2018 models to put the VR30DTT motor in the current NIsmo Models only. NIssan increase base price on the NIsmo to 43k.

Benefits to Nissan would be how the market responds to the engine, I assume the current curb weight of the NIsmo *3300 pounds would be close to the ideal weight for the next Z plus or minus a hundred pounds.
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I wish I could find my post like a year ago predicting they offer a 4 cylinder turbo and a V6TT and now those 2 motors both exist in the Q series (aka G37 successor)

Heres my new thought prediction;

Nissan for 2018 models to put the VR30DTT motor in the current NIsmo Models only. NIssan increase base price on the NIsmo to 43k.

Benefits to Nissan would be how the market responds to the engine, I assume the current curb weight of the NIsmo *3300 pounds would be close to the ideal weight for the next Z plus or minus a hundred pounds.
Sounds very reasonable.
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I wish I could find my post like a year ago predicting they offer a 4 cylinder turbo and a V6TT and now those 2 motors both exist in the Q series (aka G37 successor)

Heres my new thought prediction;

Nissan for 2018 models to put the VR30DTT motor in the current NIsmo Models only. NIssan increase base price on the NIsmo to 43k.

Benefits to Nissan would be how the market responds to the engine, I assume the current curb weight of the NIsmo *3300 pounds would be close to the ideal weight for the next Z plus or minus a hundred pounds.
I agree with thisas I predicted the same, as well as FPENVY and Ricer X but...

There's Two configurations on the 3.0T.

I believe the 2.0t will have a base model and sport model & Nismo

I believe the 300+ hp model will be the touring.

I believe the 400hp model will be a Nismo.

And I even think there's a possibility of a Nismo RS rated at 450hp.

I think there will be Targa, hardtop and convertible versions. Possibly a Z inspired AWD crossover with a play on the Z heritage in its name will come out and be part of the Z family.
(Grip Z)

I honestly think the Z is getting a new chassis. I really believe that's one of the main reasons it's taking so long aside from being far off there mark in sales.

Disclaimer: just a speculation
No panties in a bunch please.
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I don't see Nissan shoehorning the VR30 into a 370Z. It would compromise too much about the car and cost too much to do it vs developing a new car around the Q60 chassis.
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I don't see Nissan shoehorning the VR30 into a 370Z. It would compromise too much about the car and cost too much to do it vs developing a new car around the Q60 chassis.

The Q chassis and the Z chassis right now are one of the same. The FM platform is still in use even in the brand new Q60. Weight was reduced by using around 50% more tensile steel interior redevelopmentand more carbon fiber bits. The platforms have been and continue to be used since 2003. Infiniti used that platform on EVERY original infiniti model.
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I don't see Nissan shoehorning the VR30 into a 370Z. It would compromise too much about the car and cost too much to do it vs developing a new car around the Q60 chassis.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Nissan has reduced the sport model price midway into the production of the 370z, they offered an exclusive 35th anniversary in the 350z which became standard equipment and to use another maker Ford who swapped from the 305hp motor up to the 425hp motor like 2 years after their new Mustang released a few years back.

Nissan has a few advantages to drop this engine in the 370z.

1. Test it out in the market pros/cons etc
2. See if sales increase due to the engine
3. Have any kinks in engine/drivetrain be tweaked now vs. having a full blown 2003/2009 transmission issue/oil consumption or whatever may arise.

Lets think when Nissan first came to America to be sure they didn't tarnish their rep they called themselves Datsun. Still actually Nissan they subbranded in case the ship sank they ditch "Datsun" and NIssan lives on unscathed!

Imagine if this "Revolution" they speak of and all the money spent on a new Z drops in say 2019 and it flops horribly! Nissan already knows the Z is not a huge money maker so this could really hurt their net worth. Best idea is basically use the wolf in sheeps clothing we will say and beast mode a NIsmo with the new motor and let it fly. Any cons or dissapointments they can tweak for the new Z35. And who would have said back in 2010 that the 2015 NIsmo would look completely different (headlights, aero kit etc) Changes can happen mid cycle or even at the end. Sometimes good, sometimes bad (EVO X ditching Recaro seats for last year for a bad example)

Its a no brainer honestly, the engine is already being produced.
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I found my post from almost a year ago predicting well before the new engines were even thought about! I posted this September 2015!! Look at my guesstimates for price and engine choices
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I am a huge Z fan. Ive owned 2 350z's and a Nismo 370z. What I suspect if the new Z is released and they don't cut from the lineup (its always a possibility) is the following.

Nissan has made numerous comments about a revolution not evolution as well as a lighter more compact car. I actually test drove a BRZ the other day for fun and the size felt ok for my 5"9 150 pounds but I couldn't imagine that car for a larger person. The new Z will need to be larger then that but still retain a weight of 3000 pounds or under to compete with a 4 cylinder turbo option.

That being said the BRZ weighs around 2700ish pounds. With 200hp it is very slow.
If the new Z can shoot for a sub 3000 weight and having a lower end 4 cylinder turbo option with 240-260hp and a V6TT option with around 400hp they would then beat out the FRS/BRZ with the lower end and the mustang/Camaro end with the upper end.

Pricing would need to be appropriate like below
Base Z35- $28,000-$31,000 (4 Cylinder Turbo)
V6TT Z35- $38,000- $45,000 (6 cylinder turbo)
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