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JARblue 02-06-2020 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo2070 (Post 3906810)
So..proven safety technology that could potentially save lives that could be seamlessly integrated into the vehicle making it transparent to the driver is bloat?

Yup. Especially when it's unnecessary.

Zezus 02-06-2020 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3906777)
Distracted driving aids do not belong on a sports car. Period.

Get a different car or learn to drive. Sheesh :shakes head:

I wouldn't mind blind spot monitors. I've almost gotten over on people who have flown up behind me on the right.

-ZS-Carpenter 02-06-2020 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3906816)
Yup. Especially when it's unnecessary.

Wait until he reads the threads about what guys are doing with the nanny features the 370 has

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FPenvy 02-06-2020 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3906819)
Wait until he reads the threads about what guys are doing with the nanny features the 370 has

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head might swell up and explode like that annoying greta girl :bowrofl:

JARblue 02-06-2020 03:44 PM

What would be sweet would be a factory yaw switch to disable traction control and yaw sensors that just get in the way :)

-ZS-Carpenter 02-06-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3906820)
head might swell up and explode like that annoying greta girl :bowrofl:

Joby and I talked to the local Nissan dealer today while looking at a 2020 sport. He said the next Z will be self driving for safety. Best to just get rid of the useless meat sack holding the wheel and let the computer drive the car

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tvfreakazoid 02-06-2020 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo2070 (Post 3906751)
My question is why didn't Nissan bother to revise the current Z at all and keep it somewhat updated? I mean if you take into consideration the Nissan Intelligent Mobility that is in every Maxima, Altima, etc., the blind spot warning, automatic emergency braking, lane departure warning, etc..why was NONE of this technology included in any of the recent Z models? Especially for the list price of Over $40,000? I mean how difficult would it have been for Nissan to AT LEAST keep up with the technology that is in their other lower priced vehicles and port that technology into the Z that cost 3x more!

I'm sure it has to do with the ex CEO, QC (definitely), and money.

They need to higher people from Toyota.

These Japanese folks are from the same giant island, but for some reasons they cant seem to get their **** together.

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Neo2070 02-06-2020 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3906823)
Joby and I talked to the local Nissan dealer today while looking at a 2020 sport. He said the next Z will be self driving for safety. Best to just get rid of the useless meat sack holding the wheel and let the computer drive the car

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that's next..look at Tesla's

FPenvy 02-06-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3906823)
Joby and I talked to the local Nissan dealer today while looking at a 2020 sport. He said the next Z will be self driving for safety. Best to just get rid of the useless meat sack holding the wheel and let the computer drive the car

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:bowrofl:

it's funny but honestly there's not gonna be any fully self driving cars for quite some time. regardless if the tech is there, i doubt any laws will be pushed through any time soon.

however, my friend has a fully loaded new caddy CT6 and their auto-drive on the highways is amazing.

tvfreakazoid 02-06-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo2070 (Post 3906751)
My question is why didn't Nissan bother to revise the current Z at all and keep it somewhat updated? I mean if you take into consideration the Nissan Intelligent Mobility that is in every Maxima, Altima, etc., the blind spot warning, automatic emergency braking, lane departure warning, etc..why was NONE of this technology included in any of the recent Z models? Especially for the list price of Over $40,000? I mean how difficult would it have been for Nissan to AT LEAST keep up with the technology that is in their other lower priced vehicles and port that technology into the Z that cost 3x more!

And I totally agree with u.

Nissan does some lame cosmetic changes on both the Z and gtr. It would of been nice to upgrade the interior and added technology.

The nav screen on the gtr looks cheap.

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tvfreakazoid 02-06-2020 04:04 PM

These ain't distractions. Just cause it's a sports car doesnt mean it can have some tech.



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tvfreakazoid 02-06-2020 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3906805)
Making it a less desirable car. The current Z is one of few cars you can buy new that are not loaded with bloat

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But the interior is stuck in the 2000s. At least update it for god sakes.
But nissan is broke. Maybe another company will buy them out

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FPenvy 02-06-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 3906830)
These ain't distractions. Just cause it's a sports car doesnt mean it can have some tech.



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i specifically chose to have the nav option in my Z.

i enjoy some tech especially todays level of tech thats available.


nissan needs to get its packages right. when they started fuckin with them in 2015 range with sport, tech, sport tech, etc. and you couldnt get good seats with the sport brakes/wheels etc. so dumb.

im happy with my 09. got the good seats with the touring pack, got the performance add ons with the sport pack, and then nav add on.

tvfreakazoid 02-06-2020 04:08 PM

How about no safety. **** seatbelts, airbags. They add too much weight.
Darwin will take care of the rest.



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-ZS-Carpenter 02-06-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3906832)
i specifically chose to have the nav option in my Z.



i enjoy some tech especially todays level of tech thats available.





nissan needs to get its packages right. when they started fuckin with them in 2015 range with sport, tech, sport tech, etc. and you couldnt get good seats with the sport brakes/wheels etc. so dumb.



im happy with my 09. got the good seats with the touring pack, got the performance add ons with the sport pack, and then nav add on.

I'd love some android auto but leave the auto braking/steer lane assist crap out of it. It has no place in a drivers car

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Optimiser 02-06-2020 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3906794)
:gtfo2:

Driving nannies encourage poor driving habits and distracted driving. People rely on them more than they pay attention these days. It is not a good thing.

This isn't about aesthetics. And they absolutely do hinder the "feel" of the car. When nannies interfere with my driving more often than not it's an unsafe interruption.

:iagree:

Rusty 02-06-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo2070 (Post 3906810)
So..proven safety technology that could potentially save lives that could be seamlessly integrated into the vehicle making it transparent to the driver is bloat?

Then explain all of the mustang crashes. It's loaded with all the new safety features.

Spooler 02-06-2020 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Neo2070 (Post 3906793)
I agree keep the "sports" look however a few "safety features" to save lives and for the sake of safety doesn't distract from the car at all. In fact most of the safety features in the Nissan Intelligent mobility package are transparent to the driver and don't hinder the vehicle "look" or "feel" of the car at all.
May even justify the current $40,000 + price tag!

LOL, you would have a heart attack if you rode with me. I use no nannies at all at 825whp. It's all me. What a load of BS you are spewing. This is a Drivers car, not some lame wantabee drivers car.

Spooler 02-06-2020 07:50 PM

When I see crazy stuff like this posted, I just laugh.

Spooler 02-06-2020 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3906823)
Joby and I talked to the local Nissan dealer today while looking at a 2020 sport. He said the next Z will be self driving for safety. Best to just get rid of the useless meat sack holding the wheel and let the computer drive the car

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You guys didn't kick him in the nut sack. WTH....

jchammond 02-06-2020 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3906885)
You guys didn't kick him in the nut sack. WTH....

:hello: :rofl2:

FL 4Motion 02-07-2020 12:58 AM

Passive safety systems like blind spot monitoring and backup cameras and cross traffic alert radar etc are good improvements.

Active safety features that make decisions for the driver are terrible, people who need them become even more distracted thinking they can be even more irresponsible and responsible drivers get fvcking annoyed by tech that gets in the way of how they want to drive.

Just added rock rails to the wife’s Jeep, now our dd has steel surrounding 360 deg of the heep with the bumpers already done, any idiot who hits her/us is having a much worse day than we are.

I get so tired of the attitude of let’s let tech save us from ourselves, it’s a responsibility cop out.

Rusty 02-07-2020 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 3906938)
Passive safety systems like blind spot monitoring and backup cameras and cross traffic alert radar etc are good improvements.

Active safety features that make decisions for the driver are terrible, people who need them become even more distracted thinking they can be even more irresponsible and responsible drivers get fvcking annoyed by tech that gets in the way of how they want to drive.

Just added rock rails to the wife’s Jeep, now our dd has steel surrounding 360 deg of the heep with the bumpers already done, any idiot who hits her/us is having a much worse day than we are.

I get so tired of the attitude of let’s let tech save us from ourselves, it’s a responsibility cop out.

No one wants to take responsibility for their selves anymore. :shakes head:

The Z Philes 02-07-2020 01:37 AM

I always joke with people that my first car, a 1976 Caprice Classic, had those safety systems even then, like brake assist. I tell them it was called the MYEYES system. And when the MYEYES system detected a vehicle slowing in front of me, it sent a signal to the MYLEG system to disengage the throttle and engage the brakes. The ones that don't catch on and are unsure if I'm serious crack me up.

Godzilla35 02-07-2020 03:00 AM

I don't post much but nothing will be added options/electronics wise because even to change a small feature it costs a ton for tooling up.

Nissan is in trouble right now and no further plans to remake the Z will be on the table for awhile.

Even the GTR is in trouble and it's the flagship.

Unless management significantly changes, do not expect anything anytime within 5 years.

Carlos was ballsy which is why the R35 even happened, but otherwise, Nissan is in the toilet right now. You're better off hoping for a faster 86/BRZ in the nearer future but I can understand if you have brand loyalty.

DaveZ03 02-07-2020 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Neo2070 (Post 3906798)
unfortunately my friend these are the times we live in..teenagers on cell phones texting while driving, women trying to put on makeup on the way to work while driving etc...I see it every day...makes the NEED for these safety features in every car essential as saving lives especially the lives of others who are victims of these poor drivers.

No....it makes the NEED for using that lump that's three feet above your a$$ all the more essential. The best tech in the world cannot make up for poor habits being utilized.

Ghostvette 02-07-2020 08:57 AM

Just added another to the iggy list. :gtfo2:

onzedge 02-07-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3906986)
Just added another to the iggy list. :gtfo2:

:icon17:

somms 02-13-2020 10:24 AM

There's the right way to add assistive tech, and the wrong way. SyncRev and ABS are examples of the right way. Lane correction assistance is the wrong way.

As long as the designers create and design assistive tech the right way, it makes sense in a sports car.

P.S. blind spot monitoring is ugly AF but you're lying if you claim you've never almost sideswiped someone in your Z. Changing lanes is an act of faith in this car.

-ZS-Carpenter 02-13-2020 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by somms (Post 3908246)



P.S. blind spot monitoring is ugly AF but you're lying if you claim you've never almost sideswiped someone in your Z. Changing lanes is an act of faith in this car.

If the mirrors are properly adjusted there is no blind spot when changing lanes. Now backing out of some parking spots you just have to say a prayer and go for it.

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JARblue 02-13-2020 02:45 PM

:iagree:

There is no blind spot with my Craftsquare mirrors :tup:

somms 02-13-2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3908298)
If the mirrors are properly adjusted there is no blind spot when changing lanes. Now backing out of some parking spots you just have to say a prayer and go for it.

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My mirrors are pushed almost all the way out. There’s still a blind spot. I almost always drop a gear and accelerate to change lanes.

Rusty 02-13-2020 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by somms (Post 3908246)
There's the right way to add assistive tech, and the wrong way. SyncRev and ABS are examples of the right way. Lane correction assistance is the wrong way.

As long as the designers create and design assistive tech the right way, it makes sense in a sports car.

P.S. blind spot monitoring is ugly AF but you're lying if you claim you've never almost sideswiped someone in your Z. Changing lanes is an act of faith in this car.

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3908298)
If the mirrors are properly adjusted there is no blind spot when changing lanes. Now backing out of some parking spots you just have to say a prayer and go for it.

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3908300)
:iagree:

There is no blind spot with my Craftsquare mirrors :tup:

You guys wouldn't know a blind spot until it smacked you in the azz. Try backing up a 41ft motorhome in a gas station. :shakes head:

FPenvy 02-13-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3908315)
You guys wouldn't know a blind spot until it smacked you in the azz. Try backing up a 41ft motorhome in a gas station. :shakes head:

you chose to do that though lol

TobinH 02-13-2020 03:53 PM

https://www.motor1.com/news/393060/2...ontier-new-v6/

I haven't seen any details about this 'new' 3.8L V6, but I wonder what it means for a future Z car.

Probably it's just a refined VQ, but it's a bit interesting that it seems to be more powerful and more fuel efficient than the outgoing VQ40.

-ZS-Carpenter 02-13-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by somms (Post 3908314)
almost

That's why you still have a blind spot. The side mirrors are not for looking at how well it's waxed. I have no issues changing lanes


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Rusty 02-13-2020 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3908316)
you chose to do that though lol

When you have no choice but to do it. You just hope that they move out of your way. :rofl2:

Rusty 02-13-2020 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3908319)
That's why you still have a blind spot. The side mirrors are not for looking at how well it's waxed. I have no issues changing lanes


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Properly adjusted mirrors. :tup:

-ZS-Carpenter 02-13-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3908322)
Properly adjusted mirrors. :tup:

Situational awareness help a bunch too. But hey I can't be watching what's going on around me and troll people who drive this junk platform at the same time

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z-ya-later 02-13-2020 04:31 PM

I have to disagree about there not being a blind spot issue. I think this may be a relative issue for people depending on height. I am 6'2''. I keep my seat all the way back. My mirror on the driver's side will not go far enough over for me to see what's in the other lane. I absolutely have to look out the window when switching to the left.

A right change is easier but if you are not parallel, if you are are turning into the right lane at an angle, the whole right view is pretty much blocked.


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