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Nithmo 11-23-2016 11:38 AM

Dirk, the replacement is coming. It's being worked on now. I keep up on everything Honda does and unless something catastrophic happens where they have to scrap the car altogether, it should be out by 2018-2019.

Tick64 11-23-2016 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nithmo (Post 3581283)
Dirk, the replacement is coming. It's being worked on now. I keep up on everything Honda does and unless something catastrophic happens where they have to scrap the car altogether, it should be out by 2018-2019.

We've been hoping the same thing for a new Z. A new S2000 would be awesome. Do you have any links showing something concrete or just speculation like the Z?

NRTim 11-23-2016 02:28 PM

Rumor: New Honda S2000 Roadster Could Arrive for 2018

NRTim 11-23-2016 02:33 PM

Honda sports car patents
https://d37nk263jfz2p8.cloudfront.ne...ac3e86ebd5.jpg

https://d37nk263jfz2p8.cloudfront.ne...ac3f7323fd.jpg

https://d37nk263jfz2p8.cloudfront.ne...ac3fcd67c9.jpg

P's_Z 11-23-2016 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3581048)
Oh I meant the terminator eye in the dash. BUT THAT TOO!! They could've integrated a clock in the radio.

Whoops.. :wtf2:

:icon17:

Tick64 11-23-2016 07:52 PM

Oooooo, I like the looks of that. Could be sweet! :excited:

Tick64 11-23-2016 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NRTim (Post 3581351)

I hope the rendering by Car and Driver isn't too accurate. Not a fan of the NSX front grill area. The Honda patent pics look a little cleaner.

UNKNOWN_370 11-23-2016 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NRTim (Post 3581351)

Notice the first word in the title is "RUMOR". C&D are just as bad as those low rent car rumor websites online. The only difference is at least
C&D tells you it's rumor instead of trying to pass it off as fact. The only fact I know is Honda is gonna make a baby NSX with a 4 banger engine. Like those pics above, but that won't be an S2K.

The S2K and Z are both limbo rumor with no substance.

P's_Z 11-24-2016 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3581501)
Notice the first word in the title is "RUMOR". C&D are just as bad as those low rent car rumor websites online. The only difference is at least
C&D tells you it's rumor instead of trying to pass it off as fact. The only fact I know is Honda is gonna make a baby NSX with a 4 banger engine. Like those pics above, but that won't be an S2K.

The S2K and Z are both limbo rumor with no substance.

Thats a shame too :shakes head:

Cause no new Z>>> i go with s2k
No s2k>>>> i go Z
No Z+no s2k= f***ed :icon23:

:icon17:

ped 11-25-2016 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3580691)
That's Highly subjective. I like my interior but it feels highly outdated. The Nismo with the recaros is the most fitting interior for the Z and that also looks dated. I think if Nissan neglected anything the most. It's the interior.

I personally feel the camaro interior is the superior interior. It's drawbacks are screen position and weird a/c operation. But... it looks like a proper interior.
I think our interior can be the best interior still with some material and color updates and a new stereo center update.

This is what my Z interior (from a 2016 but looks the same) looks like with touring, sports, navigation/BOSE, etc.

http://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam...stem-large.jpg

This, IMO, is absolutely better than the new Camaro interior.

ped 11-25-2016 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3580984)
What kills our interior most gotta be the materials. If the gauges were contoured and soft touches were present and the third gauge was more Porsche like. Our interiors would be best in class. We don't need any dramatic changes.

The Z has soft touch interior materials. You just have to buy the upgrades to get it. I have things in my 2013 Z you can't even get on any regular 2017 Camaro like microfiber seat inserts. Only Camaros to have those are the 1LE package or the ZL1 model. My Z also has soft touch everywhere, properly placed air vents, dial-controlled (also voice controlled) nav and stereo, plus plush knee braces.

UNKNOWN_370 11-26-2016 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ped (Post 3581976)
The Z has soft touch interior materials. You just have to buy the upgrades to get it. I have things in my 2013 Z you can't even get on any regular 2017 Camaro like microfiber seat inserts. Only Camaros to have those are the 1LE package or the ZL1 model. My Z also has soft touch everywhere, properly placed air vents, dial-controlled (also voice controlled) nav and stereo, plus plush knee braces.


Not by today's standards. We all have those spots you're talking about. Your microfiber in base cars have soft touch cloth. We all have the knee pad and that is a nice touch. But our door sills and dash top are outdated. ESPECIALLY for the price of our cars.

Then when we.get into cheap plastic
around the dash. It's extremely outdated. Our contours and colors leave to be desired.


The camaro isn't a perfect interior but the appointments on the doors, dash and sills are unquestionably higher quality. To not see that would be objectified fanboyism.

Nissa needs to get up to 2014 standards. Cuz it was 2014 when we saw a load of cars get this huge upgrade in interior materials. When the Z came out. Our materials were fine. As good as you can get on a sub-premium car. The touring was just the hey look I have leather too package. And that's fine for those who think power seats are necessary in a car with no back seats that can't recline. And a Bose stereo that's sounds like an RDS with extra bass that's distorted. For half the cost of the touring. I have a system that is concealed in my car but is Comp SQ. But I digress. To each his own. My point though is. The Z is not up to snuff in materials even if you compare interior quality to a Hyundai Elantra
Cars have moved up and we're stagnant. Nissan should want to make a better product... This isn't the 90's when Nissan had 5 sports cars to engineer and keep up to date. They have one real sports car and two GT cars. They have over a dozen bread and butter vehicles between Nissan and infiniti. It shouldn't be much to make these types of improvements even with low sales numbers. The Nissan bread and butter line up more than supports the corporate agenda.

And you can get microfiber on a camaro if you get a Z/28 which isn't out yet. N in case you didn't know. Microfiber is being used less in cars because it's been proven to wear badly.

ped 11-26-2016 01:03 PM

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And you can get microfiber on a camaro if you get a Z/28 which isn't out yet. N in case you didn't know. Microfiber is being used less in cars because it's been proven to wear badly.
Got anything to substantiate that? I'm seeing more cars with it than less (compared to past years). And my Z with it has over 41,000 miles and my seats still look like new.

Nithmo 11-26-2016 07:56 PM

Unfortunately, the new s2000 is rumoured as being a mid engine car. Not saying that's a bad thing... Because it's not. But what sucks is that it has NOTHING to do with the s2000 whatsoever.

From the original s600, to the s800, to the s2000, they've always been convertibles. Making a baby NSX just seems weird now. If they call it something else, I'll have no issues with it.

Regardless, the car is coming.

Imtired 11-27-2016 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ped (Post 3581974)
This is what my Z interior (from a 2016 but looks the same) looks like with touring, sports, navigation/BOSE, etc.

http://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam...stem-large.jpg

This, IMO, is absolutely better than the new Camaro interior.

That is also the same interior of a '09 Z, which is pretty sad.

greasebeast 11-27-2016 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ped (Post 3581974)
This is what my Z interior (from a 2016 but looks the same) looks like with touring, sports, navigation/BOSE, etc.

http://www.nissanusa.com/content/dam...stem-large.jpg

This, IMO, is absolutely better than the new Camaro interior.

I love Zs, I'll rep them until I die and will always own one, but my buddy just got the 50th anniversary SS and the Zs interior isn't anywhere close. Not sure if you've sat in one but keep an open mind! Chevy is doing awesome stuff with that car (z28, zl1 etc) that any car dude should appreciate

sunkist350z 11-28-2016 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by greasebeast (Post 3582901)
I love Zs, I'll rep them until I die and will always own one, but my buddy just got the 50th anniversary SS and the Zs interior isn't anywhere close. Not sure if you've sat in one but keep an open mind! Chevy is doing awesome stuff with that car (z28, zl1 etc) that any car dude should appreciate

Still a GM :roflpuke2:

ped 11-28-2016 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by greasebeast (Post 3582901)
I love Zs, I'll rep them until I die and will always own one, but my buddy just got the 50th anniversary SS and the Zs interior isn't anywhere close. Not sure if you've sat in one but keep an open mind! Chevy is doing awesome stuff with that car (z28, zl1 etc) that any car dude should appreciate

I sat in the new Camaro ZL1 (and drove it a bit) and wasn't impressed with the interior at all. The stereo LCD screen has no protection at all (not cowled) and is glossy and at an odd angle. The dash yo the right side us just a flat expanse of wasted space (no curves and unutilized). There are completely unnecessary cowls on top of the dash in front of steering wheel - can't tell why they're there but they're highly annoying. Chevy missed an opportunity to lose those and cut down on the "sitting in a bunker" feeling so many people complain about. Also the vents being right where you hand/arm rests is so odd and not smart IMO.

BC416 11-28-2016 09:16 AM

Call me oldschool but I prefer a simple interior. I don't need all these bells and whistles that everyone seems to be clamoring for. Hell, it took me a while to get used to having buttons on the steering wheel. Just give me a car that looks good and is fun to drive.

shirokenkami 11-28-2016 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3582997)
Call me oldschool but I prefer a simple interior. I don't need all these bells and whistles that everyone seems to be clamoring for. Hell, it took me a while to get used to having buttons on the steering wheel. Just give me a car that looks good and is fun to drive.

Perhaps you need an NA chassis MX5? ;)

BC416 11-28-2016 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by shirokenkami (Post 3583007)
Perhaps you need an NA chassis MX5? ;)

I did say looks good :inoutroflpuke:

digitaltrance 11-28-2016 10:38 AM

Thread has been derailed. I was trying to find information on the Z35 but after 189 pages, I am more lost than ever... :bowrofl:

ped 11-28-2016 11:36 AM

In the absence of new info on a 370Z replacement this conversation is just fine while we wait...

shirokenkami 11-28-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416 (Post 3583028)
I did say looks good :inoutroflpuke:

You were saying?

http://speedhunters-wp-production.s3...4-1200x800.jpg

shirokenkami 11-28-2016 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by digitaltrance (Post 3583034)
Thread has been derailed. I was trying to find information on the Z35 but after 189 pages, I am more lost than ever... :bowrofl:

Threads get derailed here like a like a Chinese train carrying 800 tons of....... Well sh*t.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO1q3HwB0y0

RicerX 11-28-2016 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by digitaltrance (Post 3583034)
Thread has been derailed. I was trying to find information on the Z35 but after 189 pages, I am more lost than ever... :bowrofl:

I find the thread accurately represents Nissan's train of thought on the development of the Z35... even up to the post that says "maybe I just need a Miata instead."

NISMO IX 11-28-2016 01:25 PM

Doesn't all of those "bells&whistles" just add weight to a sports car anyway? And when driving said sports car (not pony car), do you really want all of those distractions?

njobe89 11-28-2016 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shirokenkami (Post 3583062)
You were saying?

( Click to show/hide )

my ocd would kill me if that was my car. those headlights are driving me crazy right now

ped 11-28-2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3583092)
my ocd would kill me if that was my car. those headlights are driving me crazy right now

It looks like they're aping the original AC Cobra.

http://momentcar.com/images/ac-shelby-cobra-1965-9.jpg

shirokenkami 11-28-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ped (Post 3583123)
It looks like they're aping the original AC Cobra.

http://momentcar.com/images/ac-shelby-cobra-1965-9.jpg

My thoughts exactly.

shirokenkami 11-28-2016 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NISMO IX (Post 3583089)
Doesn't all of those "bells&whistles" just add weight to a sports car anyway? And when driving said sports car (not pony car), do you really want all of those distractions?

You don't want distractions, buy a race car that's street legal. You want a car that's fast but still has creature comforts? You buy a proper modern sports car.

Jordo! 11-29-2016 02:17 PM

Now that we know there's an actual Supra test mule, we should start placing bets now on whether the Z35 will be (1) based on the Q/G, like the last few iterations, or (2) a totally new platform like Nissan once hinted at, but has yet to show us.

I'm placing my bet on #1. Either way, I will definitely be cross shopping between the Z and the Supra, unless Toyota screws the pooch and tries to stick a 55+ K price tag on their new super Celica.

Too6Z 11-29-2016 05:31 PM

Has Nissan not learned anything from the pricing issues with the 300ZX?

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shirokenkami 11-29-2016 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3583641)
Either way, I will definitely be cross shopping between the Z and the Supra, unless Toyota screws the pooch and tries to stick a 55+ K price tag on their new super Celica.

Bro, it's likely going to be $75k plus. Hell, this isn't even a Toyota product. It's going to be a coupe version of the BMW Z5, it's sister car.

Too6Z 11-29-2016 06:06 PM

Well for that price they can keep it.

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ThaeMaestro 11-29-2016 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3583641)
Now that we know there's an actual Supra test mule, we should start placing bets now on whether the Z35 will be (1) based on the Q/G, like the last few iterations, or (2) a totally new platform like Nissan once hinted at, but has yet to show us.

I'm placing my bet on #1. Either way, I will definitely be cross shopping between the Z and the Supra, unless Toyota screws the pooch and tries to stick a 55+ K price tag on their new super Celica.


https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-I1bAMxz7q...ta-Supra-4.jpg

I'm not impressed so far ... And yeah I think it will probably be over 55k ...

shirokenkami 11-29-2016 07:13 PM

Oh look, a BMW Z5 Coupe!

Jordo! 11-30-2016 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaeMaestro (Post 3583815)

I'm not impressed so far ... And yeah I think it will probably be over 55k ...

The Z5 will be around 50K, I'm guessing the Supra will probably be at least 5 - 10 K less than the BMW. That will make it competitive with the Z.

UNKNOWN_370 11-30-2016 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 3584066)
The Z5 will be around 50K, I'm guessing the Supra will probably be at least 5 - 10 K less than the BMW. That will make it competitive with the Z.

This might be our only choice from Japan the way Nissan is going?

Toyota went from 0 sports cars to 4 real quick! 3 of them suck and one is waiting for arrival but....
At least they are trying. Nissan is becoming the Toyota of 98-12

Nithmo 11-30-2016 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3584147)
This might be our only choice from Japan the way Nissan is going?

Toyota went from 0 sports cars to 4 real quick! 3 of them suck and one is waiting for arrival but....
At least they are trying. Nissan is becoming the Toyota of 98-12

which Toyota cars are you referring to?

The FR-S/86, and? LFA? and what else?

Not sure why you'd say any of them suck. The LFA was built to show off their skill, never to be the fastest. And it is still a damn fast car. Too many people like to bench race cars... "omg, the LFA is 0.3s slower than _____". Yeah, and even so, it's still throwing you into the seat and giving you a driving experience like nothing else.

Same with the 86... it's built for a younger crowd and it is exactly what cars from the late 80s to late 90s were about. Low power, supreme handling and a ton of fun with a ton of mod support behind them. The type of car you learn how to hit corners properly with, and hone your skills on, before moving to more power.

I'm sure the Supra replacement, whatever it's called, will be awesome also. A BMW engineered car, with Toyota reliability? Yes, please.


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