The least they can do is lighten the steel while strengthening it and reinforce it.
The throw in a DCT...This 7 speed is outdated.

Too much time, cost and effort I assume.
Their 7 sp dct which the gtr uses is outdated.
The current auto tranny is a 9sp which doesnt make sense and definitely not as good in performance compared to other brands.

I dont know how well the new Z will compared to bmw supra. Bmws auto transmission is better than nissans.

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https://www.autoevolution.com/news/n...ng-140401.html

Heres another publication.

The hardest part of this car is the transmission and the chassis. Let's just hope for the best. Maybe they can get a new tranny contract and outsource. I know the next GTR must be getting a new tranny.

It's a TOUGH market right now where big cars have small car agility. So the Z has to be a small car with supercar agility.

Would love a DCT in the Z, but probably too expensive, both to equip and maintain. Ask the BMW guys. The ZF 8 speed is almost as crisp, but smaller package, cheaper to maintain, and much smoother in stop-n-go situation. I’ll take that as a compromise.

The programming is probably the main reason why our 7at feel ancient too. BMW and Porsche figured out how to program a transmission for sports driving.

:horse:

I do like a couple of those renderings though, would love to see more 240 in the design if they ever make a new one

I dont care for the small wheelbase of the bmw supra.
The 350z had like 104" wheelbase and the 370 is 100".
I think that's good.

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Not sure if anyone posted this, but here's a recent concept picture from a Japanese magazine.

<a href="https://imgur.com/xx12h6V"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/xx12h6Vl.jpg" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

Wow. I hope it looks like that though it seams almost too retro to be true. If it has lights similar to that, I’m in. Which magazine?

It was from Car Top magazine a couple of months ago.

Certainly fits with what’s being rumored for the updated Z34.

The question is, let's hope they keep the wide,.low profile look.
But still, without a good auto transmission, that will be an issue, and 2 steps behind bmw supra

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Agreed. Would guess the width etc. would be identical to the current car given its just a revamp. Here’s a questions. What will they call it? We’ve heard 400Z in reference to the hp amount. Why not just start calling them “Z”s.

Nissan Z would just work.


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Retro styling (especially the front lights), on the same floorpan as the 370 - well well well - what a surprise! That rendering is pretty good, but I wouldn't expect the top of the door to scoop downwards just like the 370 does. Just a small detail, I know - but it's important to small people like me!

Edit - I don't think it will be 'only a new front'. It will be different, but I also think it won't be a radical shift in appearance either.

Could care less about auto trans. Manual all the way! Won't buy a new Z if it doesn't have a manual available.

I get it but it's the future. It just sucks they might be using their own auto trans.

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That rendering looks great and if that is just the refreshed look and not the new Z35, my question is how much ADM would be added to this? With cars like the Supra, GT500, GT350 and CTR - it seems like everyone is getting into the ADM game which sucks for all of us.

Do we know if there will be a manual trans - if that is the case - it would be hard to pass up on the refresh or maybe just keep what I have and save those pennies for the actual updated Z. Already wondering what tuning will be out there and how much more HP you’ll be able to get out of the stock engine. Regardless this is great news and is very exciting for those that want a new Z35.

They say there will be an option for a manual. But they need a better auto trans.
Regardless if you don't like it's the future. Especially if they want to keep up with similar cars.

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The updated Z no more affordable sport car, $50,000 at least.

where did you get that number from? That's what you can get a infiniti q60 for.

Because of the price of the Q50 and Q60.
G35 price = 350Z
G37 price = 370Z

Here you go:

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...gM1LPGC_fXOqJY

They should offer a AWD version. But the biggest issues and it's been mentioned plenty, Nissan's auto transmission

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well, glad i didnt go through with the stinger.

i'll at least wait to see what nissan offers for the Z before going for the supra. i hope it looks similar to what is shown in the magazine. hoping nissan doesnt screw this up...

Well, its already some what screwed with their auto transmission. Definitely wont be as good as the bmw supra.
Unless Nissan's smart using another auto trans.

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Still some conflicting info on if the upcoming car is an updated Z34 or the new Z35. I’m glad we’ll at least get something new soon. I’m hopeful for some confirmation of the rumors.

A day late and a dollar short if you ask me. Although that doesn't really makes sense. More like 5 years late and too much dollars (we'll see).

At least it's something new. Well, sort of I guess lol

I wonder how much hate it will get once it is released? I mean, we have all been waiting like 5+ years for a new version of this car and now that it seems like we are getting one at the same time the company is going through major losses - I just wonder how much of a quality car will we get. Don't get me wrong - I am excited about the idea of having a turbo engine in it but it does make me wonder how much Nissan is going to commit to this car. I feel this 'stop gap' should have happened when they redid the Nismo back in 2015 - with those recaros and bodykit - it would have been awesome to see them throw that engine in it to push and justify that $48k price tag associated with it.

Regardless I am excited and can't wait to hear more and then to see more when they finally reveal it and we start seeing a lot of YouTube vids from some of the car vloggers. Should be fun :)

Let's hope they improve in QC too

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What using koenigseggs LST or light speed transmission?
Use this on the updated Z car and the GTR.
It seems it's better than what's out there now.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-sho...x-explanation/

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https://www.autoevolution.com/news/n...ad-140520.html


Not happy with this render.

I'm sure itll take at least a decade for that type of transmission to cost cheap enough go put in a Z!!

I wo der what the cost is. Or the gtr. Or other high end cars

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It will never be cheap enough for the Z. Just look at the DCT's. They're still $$$

Well nissan needs to set itself apart from stangs, Camaro and bmw.
Give it a awd option and zf tranny at least

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If the starting price jumped more than 10k. So they need a better auto tranny

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The kia stinger gt uses the zf transmission. Let's hope nissan smart in not using their own or whatever transmission they use on the Q60

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The 7at is built by Jatco, it’s either a subsidiary or a spin-off from Nissan. I’ve owned and driven so many of them....

Own: G37s sedan, FX50, 370z (wife’s)..
Drove: tested multipleeee 7at 370z’s while shopping for the wife, older to newer, all low miles, Q50 loaner cars a few times, both 3.7 and 3.0t.

My opinion: The upshift is ok, at the right rpm and throttle it even feels direct and sporty. But the downshifts and kickdowns are glaring weak spots, just like any traditional slush box, slow and laggy, but I think that might’ve been contributed by the programming.

ZF8 is great, but it depends on the car manufacturer’s programming logic...BMW did great with it, while Jaguar didn’t do as good of a job allegedly. Great if Nissan can use this tranny, just don’t f up the programming lol.

Lots of hot air blowing around in here.. same crap different day. Wait for some actual proof before getting all excited. And Nissan saying vague statements about the next Z isn’t proof. We’ve been through this how many times now?

AWD wont be happening. I'm sure they're not financially stable enough to experiment with untapped markets and suddenly changing Z philosophies. Just be happy it's not gonna be an EV crossover. :rofl2: