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Defeat voice command lockout?

I was surprised to learn that my new roadster is designed to NOT permit use of voice commands when the top is down. (I have 2017 touring roadster, with nav.)

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Old 06-07-2017, 06:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was surprised to learn that my new roadster is designed to NOT permit use of voice commands when the top is down. (I have 2017 touring roadster, with nav.) I suppose Nissan feels that voice commands wouldn't work well with the wind noise...but why not let the driver be the judge of that?
Anyway, given that I have the top down about 95 percent of the time, I was hoping that there was a way to defeat the lockout feature. Any ideas?
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I'd try searching through the unit's menus and reading the OM but you've probably already done that.

Might be something helpful in the FSM wiring diagrams (link in my sig). Depending on how the unit gets the top-is-open signal, it could be as simple as cutting a wire.
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Hi Steve,

Have you ever tried to use the phone, linked with the car, with the top down? I have. And then I pulled into a parking lot and unlinked the phone.

Those little microphones up by the map lights really don't work all that well with the top down. I'd hate for "Call Aunt Gertrude" to be understood as "Crash into that telephone pole."

Ok, not very helpful.

I doubt very seriously there is any kind of option to unlock this. My daughter's boyfriend is a Nissan mechanic. He knows less than I do about the Z. What he does know is that they can't do anything to change anything in the computer. (I've asked, though not about this issue.)

Don't get me wrong. I'm not suggesting you not go looking. I just don't expect you to find anything easy or particularly useful.
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Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I use the phone frequently with the top down. The phone button on the steering wheel works (opening up the phone book on the touch screen). So, I can make calls "manually" by using the touch screen. And of course I can receive incoming calls. So, if your point is that the voice command function isn't really that valuable or necessary, I agree. I just am puzzled why Nissan would intentionally prevent me from using this function with the top down. I was hoping there was some way to get around this. But I appreciate your information that it's next to impossible to reprogram the computer logic.
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I do not mean to make a judgment about what is or is not important to you. What I'm saying is the road noise is so loud it's nearly useless. For me anyway. I always have to stop to use it because people keep saying "What?"

Is it a matter of not using voice commands with the top down (I haven't tried. All I do is answer calls coming in. That works.) or while in motion? I've found I'm locked out of a lot in the nav system when in motion, and telling it that there's a passenger doesn't help.

I was hoping to be able to go to Nissan and have them change little things here and there. It is after all a computer. I change stuff on my computer all the time - I'm a Linux nerd, so when I say stuff I mean big stuff. But no. it's stock only. Now, if UpRev (or someone, anyone) would only add "everything else" to their computer mod system... Among other things I'd like to turn off the ability to drop the windows and top by holding the unlock key. I can't keep my fob in my pants pocket - learned that lesson the hard way.
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Yeah, I agree. It seems that there should be some way to modify the lockout--as you say, in 2017 the concept of modifying a computer program seems routine. I was assuming that someone had already done this. But perhaps not. And maybe there's little interest in even un-doing the lockout feature.
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Interested in a hack as well.
There has to be a sensor that the system is using that can be "tricked"
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