Multiple Engine for Next Z? from Nissan VP

Read T · 12-04-2014, 09:27 PM

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DavidZ370 · 12-05-2014, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Read T

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Probably has power then the current engine

carlitos_370z · 12-05-2014, 06:45 AM

Subscribed!

And my opinion is that i dont think we are going to see the next Z for now, except for the rumors, and more rumors.... i think that IDX is the next platform that we are going to see soon, the rumors to make this I thik is more solid than the Z for now, and is a car that can compete with Subaru BRZ, Scion FR-S and Toyota 86... I just hope that Nissan keep making the Z platform and if the can make the Z35 looks like the S30Z i think im going to change my Z hahahah!!!

BTW i have the opportunity to drive my brother 2008 Honda S2000 CR and man that damn car turns like a fcking go-kart... i love it... and i have the opportunity to drive my friend Scion FR-S a and love how feel that car too... hey but i cant forget my precious Z that i drive daily... man that fcking Z rocks.... i cant imagine my life with out my Lady

Mt Tam I am · 12-05-2014, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Just to be clear, all I meant regarding the FR-S was that I'd have no complaints about an FR-Sish sized (i.e., "downsized") Z, provided it performed as well as or (ideally) better than the current gen Z.

I'm sure the FR-S is a lot of fun -- my original plan, before getting the Z, was to buy a FR-S and put a blower on it

Thanks for being clear. I misunderstood it to be about AT's.

A small Z is fine by me.

280z/300zx · 12-05-2014, 11:20 AM

A new report coming out of Japan finds that the successor to the Nissan 370Z will be offered with at least two engines supplied by Mercedes-Benz.

Tentatively dubbed Z, the sports car will be introduced with a gasoline-electric drivetrain consisting of a Mercedes-sourced turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine and hybrid technology designed and built in-house by Nissan.

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Japanese magazine Best Car finds that the two power sources will generate a combined output of 246 horsepower at 6,000 rpms and 258 lb-ft. of torque from 1,250 to 3,500 rpms. A seven-speed automatic transmission will send power to the rear wheels.

Nissan understandably expects that the turbo-electric drivetrain will be mainly popular in Europe and in Japan. In the United States, most Zs will be equipped with a 3.0-liter V6 engine pulled out of the Mercedes parts bin.

Nissan has other big surprises in store for the Z. It will be smaller, lighter and cheaper than the current 370Z, and it will be introduced exclusively as a convertible.

"Its main market is the US, a market which demands competitively priced convertibles with loads of street cred," explained a company insider.

To keep weight and costs down, Nissan is debating whether to fit the Z with a targa roof or with a T-top, a setup used on a number of Z cars from the 1970s to the 1990s. A retractable power soft top like the one used in the 370Z Roadster (pictured) has been ruled out because it is too expensive.

The Nissan Z will be introduced at a major auto show next year and go on sale shortly after as a 2016 or a 2017 model.

Read more: Next Nissan Z to get Mercedes-sourced engines? | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews

mishuko · 12-05-2014, 11:28 AM

cheaper and lighter? Great!

smaller engine / lower output? CONVERTIBLE? ...... brb i'm going to vomit

HOLY CRAP after puking my guts out... if this truely does come out i wouldn't be surprised to see the current Z's appreciate a little.

Read T · 12-05-2014, 11:46 AM

The original Z was small, light, and was not a huge tire-burner. But it was a hardtop.

UNKNOWN_370 · 12-05-2014, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo

Here's the text of a similar article published today in InsiderCarNews.com:

My question is: If they haven't yet even decided something as fundamental as what the engine(s) will be, how can the next-gen Z be coming out within two years?

The Z is a done deal. It's been designed, engines have been chosen, maybe minor details are undecided. All of this shyt being thrown around in the internet is bait info to keep the forums going.

Pretty sure the Z will...
1.Have 2 or 3 engines including a turbo & Benz influences
2.Will be 100lbs/200lbs lighter.
3. Have a shape much closer to 240z

Thats what I believe will be true out of all rumors

BC416 · 12-05-2014, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 280z/300zx

A new report coming out of Japan finds that the successor to the Nissan 370Z will be offered with at least two engines supplied by Mercedes-Benz.

Tentatively dubbed Z, the sports car will be introduced with a gasoline-electric drivetrain consisting of a Mercedes-sourced turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine and hybrid technology designed and built in-house by Nissan.

The Chevy Truck Lineup
Strength in all sizes.
See the full truck lineup today.
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Japanese magazine Best Car finds that the two power sources will generate a combined output of 246 horsepower at 6,000 rpms and 258 lb-ft. of torque from 1,250 to 3,500 rpms. A seven-speed automatic transmission will send power to the rear wheels.

Nissan understandably expects that the turbo-electric drivetrain will be mainly popular in Europe and in Japan. In the United States, most Zs will be equipped with a 3.0-liter V6 engine pulled out of the Mercedes parts bin.

Nissan has other big surprises in store for the Z. It will be smaller, lighter and cheaper than the current 370Z, and it will be introduced exclusively as a convertible.

"Its main market is the US, a market which demands competitively priced convertibles with loads of street cred," explained a company insider.

To keep weight and costs down, Nissan is debating whether to fit the Z with a targa roof or with a T-top, a setup used on a number of Z cars from the 1970s to the 1990s. A retractable power soft top like the one used in the 370Z Roadster (pictured) has been ruled out because it is too expensive.

The Nissan Z will be introduced at a major auto show next year and go on sale shortly after as a 2016 or a 2017 model.

Read more: Next Nissan Z to get Mercedes-sourced engines? | New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews

A slower, convertible-only Z with an auto tranny?

mishuko · 12-05-2014, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BC416

A slower, convertible-only Z with an auto tranny?

yea dat auto convertible so much street cred yo!

brucelidat · 12-05-2014, 03:19 PM

I'll take a 3000 lb Z with a 3.0 as long as it's boosted. I can't wait for them to announce it so all this speculation can be over with. I am really interested in seeing how much weight they end up cutting.

280z/300zx · 12-05-2014, 05:26 PM

Honestly I can't see them cutting much weight. Unless they get rid of a lot of technology and overall shrink the car dimensions there really isn't much left to cut for weight. Not to mentions this new model will have to comply with new standards for safety which always adds weight.

Consider the FRS. Even with removal of the backseat it's still going to be at 2800lbs, just to keep numbers even. Add in a V6 and weight will easily approach the 3000lbs mark. Add in more luxury and technology that will have to be in the car to compete in todays market for a 30k+ car. Now your at least at 3100lbs. Add in updated safety standards, maybe 3200lbs now. That's best case scenario. Once you start talking about 19 inch or 20 inch wheels and large brakes/rotors, and all the other goodies the weight will go even higher. Add on turbos, intercoolers, and plumping and even more weight comes.

I think for a V6 sports car we won't see lower weight than where we are now. The only way the Z will weight less is with a smaller engine. Honestly I'm okay with 3200-3400lbs for a car as long as the suspension and power is there. I've driven/owned cars like the C7, Camaro 1LE, Various corvettes, Audi R8 V10, Porsche turbo, etc that all have weights equal to or higher than 3300lbs. They are were all a blast to drive. Yes, in a perfect world I'd love a sub 3000lbs car with 400hp but being realistic I'd rather they give us a decent engine while working on keeping the weight where it's at. Nothing short of 400hp is going to keep the Z alive since 400 is the new 300 in the car industry

90 ST · 12-05-2014, 05:33 PM

If they can keep it under 3300 with more power, or cut the weight to around 2500 with a turbo 4 making 275-300 i'd be interested.

Jordo! · 12-05-2014, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VCuomo

Here's the text of a similar article published today in InsiderCarNews.com:

My question is: If they haven't yet even decided something as fundamental as what the engine(s) will be, how can the next-gen Z be coming out within two years?

If they have the platform together they could shoehorn a couple different engine and drivetrain layouts in it within a year.

They probably have a few unreleased concepts already figured out and are waiting until they're pretty sure they have it nailed before releasing.

I still think the most recent Nismo was a bit of test marketing for styling (i.e., subdued, but new aero) and options for the next gen Z, but we'll see.

Jordo! · 12-05-2014, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Read T

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That plus a tune -- done!

12-04-2014, 09:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
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carlitos_370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 7,157 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z SP M6 Rep Power: 7585	Subscribed! And my opinion is that i dont think we are going to see the next Z for now, except for the rumors, and more rumors.... i think that IDX is the next platform that we are going to see soon, the rumors to make this I thik is more solid than the Z for now, and is a car that can compete with Subaru BRZ, Scion FR-S and Toyota 86... I just hope that Nissan keep making the Z platform and if the can make the Z35 looks like the S30Z i think im going to change my Z hahahah!!! BTW i have the opportunity to drive my brother 2008 Honda S2000 CR and man that damn car turns like a fcking go-kart... i love it... and i have the opportunity to drive my friend Scion FR-S a and love how feel that car too... hey but i cant forget my precious Z that i drive daily... man that fcking Z rocks.... i cant imagine my life with out my Lady Last edited by carlitos_370z; 12-05-2014 at 07:01 AM.

12-05-2014, 11:20 AM	#20 (permalink)
280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 272	A new report coming out of Japan finds that the successor to the Nissan 370Z will be offered with at least two engines supplied by Mercedes-Benz. Tentatively dubbed Z, the sports car will be introduced with a gasoline-electric drivetrain consisting of a Mercedes-sourced turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine and hybrid technology designed and built in-house by Nissan. The Chevy Truck Lineup Strength in all sizes. See the full truck lineup today. ads by Swoop Japanese magazine Best Car finds that the two power sources will generate a combined output of 246 horsepower at 6,000 rpms and 258 lb-ft. of torque from 1,250 to 3,500 rpms. A seven-speed automatic transmission will send power to the rear wheels. Nissan understandably expects that the turbo-electric drivetrain will be mainly popular in Europe and in Japan. In the United States, most Zs will be equipped with a 3.0-liter V6 engine pulled out of the Mercedes parts bin. Nissan has other big surprises in store for the Z. It will be smaller, lighter and cheaper than the current 370Z, and it will be introduced exclusively as a convertible. "Its main market is the US, a market which demands competitively priced convertibles with loads of street cred," explained a company insider. To keep weight and costs down, Nissan is debating whether to fit the Z with a targa roof or with a T-top, a setup used on a number of Z cars from the 1970s to the 1990s. A retractable power soft top like the one used in the 370Z Roadster (pictured) has been ruled out because it is too expensive. The Nissan Z will be introduced at a major auto show next year and go on sale shortly after as a 2016 or a 2017 model. Read more: Next Nissan Z to get Mercedes-sourced engines? \| New and Used Car Reviews, Research & Automotive-Industry News & LeftLaneNews carlitos_370z likes this. __________________ 77 280z, 82 280zx, 84 300zx, 2021 C8 Z51 09 370z sport/touring -RIP// 10 370z NISMO - sold

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mishuko A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: bouncin on tigga Posts: 8,062 Drives: '12 Z Rep Power: 9434	cheaper and lighter? Great! smaller engine / lower output? CONVERTIBLE? ...... brb i'm going to vomit HOLY CRAP after puking my guts out... if this truely does come out i wouldn't be surprised to see the current Z's appreciate a little. carlitos_370z, BC416 and daywalker like this.

12-05-2014, 11:46 AM	#22 (permalink)
Read T A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,046 Drives: 11 Nissan 370z BC 6M Rep Power: 17	The original Z was small, light, and was not a huge tire-burner. But it was a hardtop. carlitos_370z likes this. __________________ 2011 Nissan 370z Black Cherry Sport Pkg - Daily Driver, , 1960 Morgan +4 fun car, 1986 BMW 325ES, 1998 M3 and 1996 Spec Miata - Race Cars SUPPORT TEAM WINSOME RACING - WRL, CHUMP, LEMONS

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brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	I'll take a 3000 lb Z with a 3.0 as long as it's boosted. I can't wait for them to announce it so all this speculation can be over with. I am really interested in seeing how much weight they end up cutting. carlitos_370z likes this. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

12-05-2014, 05:26 PM	#27 (permalink)
280z/300zx Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Nevada Posts: 689 Drives: 280z, 300zx, Vette Rep Power: 272	Honestly I can't see them cutting much weight. Unless they get rid of a lot of technology and overall shrink the car dimensions there really isn't much left to cut for weight. Not to mentions this new model will have to comply with new standards for safety which always adds weight. Consider the FRS. Even with removal of the backseat it's still going to be at 2800lbs, just to keep numbers even. Add in a V6 and weight will easily approach the 3000lbs mark. Add in more luxury and technology that will have to be in the car to compete in todays market for a 30k+ car. Now your at least at 3100lbs. Add in updated safety standards, maybe 3200lbs now. That's best case scenario. Once you start talking about 19 inch or 20 inch wheels and large brakes/rotors, and all the other goodies the weight will go even higher. Add on turbos, intercoolers, and plumping and even more weight comes. I think for a V6 sports car we won't see lower weight than where we are now. The only way the Z will weight less is with a smaller engine. Honestly I'm okay with 3200-3400lbs for a car as long as the suspension and power is there. I've driven/owned cars like the C7, Camaro 1LE, Various corvettes, Audi R8 V10, Porsche turbo, etc that all have weights equal to or higher than 3300lbs. They are were all a blast to drive. Yes, in a perfect world I'd love a sub 3000lbs car with 400hp but being realistic I'd rather they give us a decent engine while working on keeping the weight where it's at. Nothing short of 400hp is going to keep the Z alive since 400 is the new 300 in the car industry carlitos_370z likes this. __________________ 77 280z, 82 280zx, 84 300zx, 2021 C8 Z51 09 370z sport/touring -RIP// 10 370z NISMO - sold

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90 ST A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,861 Drives: 90 and 15 GMC Sierra Rep Power: 420	If they can keep it under 3300 with more power, or cut the weight to around 2500 with a turbo 4 making 275-300 i'd be interested. carlitos_370z likes this.

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