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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 So saying the car could use some improvement to better compete with the other cars in its segment is bashing? That's not bashing, it's a statement

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Old 03-03-2014, 11:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So saying the car could use some improvement to better compete with the other cars in its segment is bashing? That's not bashing, it's a statement of fact. Look at the sales numbers compared to other cars in its segment.
the other companies did not have an exchange rate disadvantage of 20% or more. are you not watching the news and realize that ALL of these things have direct connection to how much a company can invest and build a car?

i dont see how you take just one egg and make a huge ham and cheeze omelette. manufacturing does not work like that.


kitchen: got my delivery of one egg today... i know wtf... but i can make a great sunny side up today.

customer: wtf ? i said i want a huge ham & cheeze omelette!

kitchen: u want me to pull one out of my arse then?
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the other companies did not have an exchange rate disadvantage of 20% or more. are you not watching the news and realize that ALL of these things have direct connection to how much a company can invest and build a car?

i dont see how you take just one egg and make a huge ham and cheeze omelette. manufacturing does not work like that.


kitchen: got my delivery of one egg today... i know wtf... but i can make a great sunny side up today.

customer: wtf ? i said i want a huge ham & cheeze omelette!

kitchen: u want me to pull one out of my arse then?
Nissan isn't the only Japanese car company, and Japan isn't the only country with exchange rate fluctuations. And I don't know why you seem to be so set on defending the Z as perfect the way it is. It could use improvement. A loaded Z is a $40k car. In that space, there's better value to be had.
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Nissan isn't the only Japanese car company, and Japan isn't the only country with exchange rate fluctuations. And I don't know why you seem to be so set on defending the Z as perfect the way it is. It could use improvement. A loaded Z is a $40k car. In that space, there's better value to be had.

the exchange rate is only one of the facts that affect what does the product consist.


the most important is which market segment does the company target for that product.

For Z, Nissan is targeting the 35k-40k segment, what is the most they can put into the Z thus it has good power, equipments thus they can make a decent profit when they sell it at 35k and also the consumers are happy.


The Z, doesn't have the horsepower like a GTR, doesn't have the torque like a truck, doesn't have the luxury like a mercedes, doesn't have the style like a ferrari.


but it's a sports car with a very very good value.
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Nissan isn't the only Japanese car company, and Japan isn't the only country with exchange rate fluctuations. And I don't know why you seem to be so set on defending the Z as perfect the way it is. It could use improvement. A loaded Z is a $40k car. In that space, there's better value to be had.
yah, toyota...nevermind the supra, cant do it.
mazda... you mean watz da?
toyotaburu came out with BRZ/FRS wow that was great, thanks.
honda's answer was a CRZ that noone wants...lol

nissan's answer while the others were tanking was (and still is) not a bad deal nor car at all, thanks to french guy. if you want to improve it you can. i personally dont see the need to do any serious mods on this car to enjoy it.

korea took advantage of japan's situation and so did domestics. so going back to my example... how do you expect to make a huge ham& cheeze omelette out of one egg? you can't. but hey, at least the sunny side up nissan made was affordable, healthy, and good.
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